Freepers cry about the tax extention vote, or what happens when you watch Fox.

[Fuzz]

the title should be, Dems vote for Tax Hike for countries entreprenuers and small businesses.

10 posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 4:26:12 PM by sappy (criminalibs)


Just another reason to go Galt.

This will test men’s fortitude.

17 posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 4:28:55 PM by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)


Who the hell are those 3 a44es pubs? 61% of folk WANT EVERYONE to get tax cuts...JUST NOW ON FOX! The RATS are sunk!

18 posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 4:29:19 PM by RoseofTexas


How come being rich feels like you’re poor?

19 posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 4:29:46 PM by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)


Welcome to the Obama Tax HIKE! That is what it is.

26 posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 4:34:21 PM by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)


Dems Vote Tax Increase on Job Creators

33 posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 4:40:08 PM by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" )

the title should be, Dems vote for Tax Hike for countries entreprenuers and small businesses.

Exactly! Dems vote to remove $700 billion from already ailing economy.
37 posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 4:45:04 PM by Liberal Bob (looneyleft.com)



Quick facts about the Bush tax cuts for the “rich”

Did you know that on January 1, 2011 the personal income tax rate for the lowest tax bracket will rise 50% from 10% to 15%?

Did you know that on January 1, 2011 the personal income tax rate for the next highest bracket - 25% - will rise to 28%?

Did you know that on January 1, 2011 the personal income tax rate that is now 28% will rise to 31%?

Just who’s raising these taxes? That would be the Democrats by allowing the Bush tax cuts for the “rich” expire on December 31, 2010. If Bush only cut taxes for the rich, where did the 10%, 25%, and 28% tax rates come from? It seems to me there aren’t many “rich” people in the lowest tax bracket.

And btw, the marriage penalty will be making a much-heralded liberal comeback along with a rise in the capital gains rate (you know, the one for the 100 million “rich” people who own stock) from 15% to 20%.

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/541131/201007211841/The-Tax-Tsunami-On-The-Horizon.aspx

41 posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 4:49:55 PM by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)



Well, guess I won’t go back to work next year as I had planned.

46 posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 4:51:42 PM by riri



My wife and I have a small business with 2 employees. Since we are a LLC and have a little over 250k in sales one of our employees will be fired before the end of the month and the other will be cut to 30 hours a week.

49 posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 4:53:49 PM by Franklin Wright (I'd rather be a Tea Bag than a "D" Bag)



Hang the stupid commie bastards high, string up Pelosi the highest.

Until the GOP starts calling these people what they are, MARXISTS, they will continue to steal more and more money from the productive class without fear of retribution.

What the marxists who call themselves democrats are doing is not legislation, it’s criminal activity

52 posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 4:54:22 PM by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)



The “rich” have been redefined as anyone with a job.

63 posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 5:00:00 PM by SouthTexas (WE are the Wave)



As a business owner I just got screwed as all I do is pay taxes and emplyee 200 hard working Americans. Down from about 250 at the peak when business was doing well. Perhaps I need to close my doors and only worry about my family surviving instead of the 200 hard work employees who are trying to support their families.

Would the demorats notice one less American business? I know that answer is no. I am 4th generation in a family business. Do I need the hassles of supporting the gov any more? I do it for my employees and their families. But I wonder why when at the end of the day all I owe is taxes and taxes. Maybe my time in business is up.

Thank you Nancy for helping to destroy my business and the employeement of 200 hard working Americans. You say i’m rich so you want to tax me out of business.

72 posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 5:27:03 PM by ncfool (The new USSA - United Socialst States of AmeriKa. Welcome to Obummers world or Obamaville USSA.)



I feel the same way. I work for myself and cant justify showing up anymore.

Cops, teachers, fireman, public employees, and other leeches who work far less thanme are now making more as this econmy has gone to absolute crap due to the govt and I see no reason why I should keep paying taxes.

Screw em.

83 posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 5:53:04 PM by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)

[gratuitous]

1. Gotta love all them entrepreneurs at FR

Scrounging for deposit bottles and cans must be more lucrative than I imagined.

[Shandris]

2. Cops and Firemen?

Do these dumb motherfuckers know anything at ALL about the topics they discuss? I mean ANYTHING?!

One person won't go back to work next year. In what world is $0 greater than ANYTHING-15%? Put the crack pipe down.

'Another reason to go Galt'? GO GALT MOTHERFUCKER! I dare you.

'The productive class'? Fuck you and die.

I've just about had it with these...'people'. It's like a chattering circle of Chattery Teeth, all rambling some dumb fucking misguided bullshit that they can't even begin to comprehend. Let them all go Galt, and make it a reality show on TV so we can watch the downfall.

Maybe they'd like to move to India and buy some seed from their beloved Galt-esque Monsanto. :mad:

[LawnLover]

3. "Cops, teachers, fireman, public employees, and other leeches"

That about says it all.

[Initech]

18. I know some teachers who would love to ring that guy's neck if they read that.

[bullimiami]

4. They really want A tax break for everyone? Then only reduce the rate on only the lowest bracket.

EVERYONE gets that.

What they are demanding in their ignorance includes a 2nd tax break for the middle bracket and an additional 3rd tax cut for the highest bracket.

So to be correct

Everyone gets at least one tax break, same exact break.
Some are lucky enough to get 2 tax breaks. The so called Middle Class Tax Cut
Some small few, those making so much as to be in the highest tax bracket, get 3 tax breaks. Everyones + Middle Class + Their own special break.

And its that 3rd tax break that is all or nothing to the powerful who have brainwashed their followers.

[DLine]

5. I call BS on the 'business owners" over there.

Nobody that stupid could run a business.

[Sparkly]

6. A guy with $250k in sales confuses that with $250k net income??

He's got no overhead? He doesn't pay the employees he now has to let go? He doesn't pay for the inventory he sells?

Everything's so different in Freeperland.

[Angry Dragon]

13. That one caught my eye also

[KatyaR]

15. Probably evidence that the guy's lying and doesn't have a business.

They just like to make shit up....

[Fuzz]

21. It's Joe the Plumber!

[Initech]

24. Seriously, I'd love to know what that guy spends in overhead.

[B Calm]

7. Dumb fucks still don't understand that DEMAND (customers) create jobs!

[PA Democrat]

8. The small business owner with 2 employees is too stupid to know

that your taxes are based upon profits and not gross receipts? Yikes. Not the sharpest tools in the shed are they?

[Johonny]

17. their business deserves to fail if they are that bad at economics

These people just regurgitate what faux tells them. They never take the time to think these things out.

[Mudoria]

9. If these tax cuts for "the productive class" and the "job creators"

is so essential, I have one question. Where are the jobs?

[voteearlyvoteoften]

10. LLC with 250 K in sales

What a dumb ass. OK so he has 250K in sales. Two employees @ say 30K. Add in insurance,rent,auto,utilities,accounting etc etc another 50k maybe. Then there is the cost of supplies say a restaurant..you pay for food, retail pay for inventory...you don't get sales without selling something that you pay for (yes i know there are exceptions) So add 50K. We are now up to 160K and that is if they don't take a salary themselves. So you pay tax on the PROFIT!!!!!!!!!!!! DUMB ASS. Go ahead and fire someone and see how much you make then silly tea boy. YOUR TAXES HAVE DEFINITELY GONE DOWN DURING OBAMA ADMINISTRATION

[GentryDixon]

11. The stupid of these cretins

is beyond comprehension.

[MrsCorleone]

12. There is spin all over radio, Twitter, and the TeeVee:

Here are asshat Issa's tweets from earlier:
DarrellIssa @Jasoninthehouse is right. Why would anyone vote to raises taxes right now? (VIDEO: http://bit.ly/ggJ0SG) #tcot #GOP #taxfail
26 minutes ago

DarrellIssa On what planet do @HouseDemocrats spend most of their time? Didn't you all just vote Nov 2 to NOT raise taxes? #fail
about 1 hour ago

DarrellIssa Finally, we're kicking the Dr. Feel Good, Mr. Waste Time resolutions: http://politi.co/gkteeu @Jasoninthehouse @GOPLeader #tcot
about 6 hours ago

DarrellIssa Taxpayers are watching...RT @GOPLeader “yes” vote on Democrats’ tax bill rule before House this morning is a vote to raise taxes, kill jobs
about 7 hours ago

On Hannity via radio: "get ready for Pelosi to pass the biggest tax increase in history!"

So sad that the Freepers don't understand that this cut is for them.

[Angry Dragon]

14. Ask these people how many small businesses the higher

tax rates will affect. They will not hav an answer because I have called
congress and they do not know.

The guy that says he employs 200 people, how can anyone look at that as a small business??

[Kingofalldems]

16. Freepers think they'll get rich selling salve door to door

HQs in mom's basement.

[B Calm]

23. LOL

[Initech]

19. I'm getting really fed up with the anti government crowd. No wait, I absolutely despise them.

[quaker bill]

20. Taxes are not punishment

The money is not stolen. The feds do not burn the money collected, in fact they put more money back into the economy than they take out, this is why we have a deficit.

No one who knows how to run a business hires or lays people off because of tax rates. They might charge more for the products, but if they have productive and profitable work for 10 people, they hire 10 people. Taxes do not impact the basic profitability of hiring people because federal taxes are only collected on profits that exist and only represent a portion of those profits. Profits are the money left over when salaries, benefits, and expenses are paid.

When one hires someone and the expense is say $20 an hour for all costs to include salary, one sets prices for the work to at least $21 and hour, more likely $25 and hour or better. At $25 an hour, I make $5 for every hour the person works. At the current highest tax bracket, I get to keep $3.20 an hour as after tax profit, roughly $6400 a year, under the new tax rates, I would only get to keep $3.02 an hour, roughly $6000 a year. If I have work for 10 people, I keep roughly $60,000 a year. If I have work for 20, $120,000 a year. Now, if the person does not have and is not doing profitable work, I pay nothing in taxes, and I likely lay the person off anyway.

Taxes are precisely irrelevant.

If low taxes attract and grow businesses, why havent all the businesses moved to long term consistent low tax haven states, like Florida? Why are any of these businesses still located in the northeast? It is really simple, the observed results are true because taxes are not relevant to such decisions.

[Moostache]

26. AMEN AND HALLEJULAH!!!

The sad fact though is that 99.9% of Freepers, and the idiots who think like Freepers even more than a few nanoseconds a day, have insulated themselves from reason and constructive argument. The REALLY sick thing is Obama though. I KNOW freepers just don't get it, but I heard Obama promise to end the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy as a method of attacking the deficit. I watched Obama at the 2008 St. Louis rally under the Arch talk about all the things he would FIGHT FOR as president.

If he allows the tax cuts for the wealthy to be extended AT ALL, I am done with him. I will not vote for him if he caves on this. I will not volunteer for any Democratic candidate who supports or fails to heavily pummel the president after such a caving. I will actively campaign against any Democrat who DOES go along with the caving on this final issue.

Up to now, the argument with or for Obama and his policies has been more of degree than kind. Sure he got Health Care, but it was watered down and not close to what is needed ultimately. Sure he "supports" repeal of DADT and DOMA, but just don't expect him to, you know, DO anything about that. Sure he "closed" Gitmo....except for, oh, I don't know, all the prisoners and guards and staff that are STILL there now. He said he would "address" Afghanistan and he IS sending MORE troops and money to the meat grinder...

In all of those cases, Obama can (falsely at times, honestly at others) make claims to fulfilling campaign promises to a certain degree....the second he puts pen to paper on any bill that does NOT return tax rates on the highest bracket to the 2000 levels, well then he officially becomes a 100% through and through, balls to bones LIAR. I will create my own viral internet videos that simply loop his campaign speeches and rhetoric over images of him signing the bill.

[quaker bill]

27. So, you would vote for Palin instead?

or just sit home and allow her to win? Get real.

President Obama would have closed Gitmo, but where do the prisoners go? While our prisons handle all sorts of very dangerous people, apparently terrorists are too much for the system, and no one will take them. It is stupid, but true. Further, Gitmo ain't what it used to be.

Personally, I am with you, I would prefer he hold the line on taxes and let them all go up unless he get the bill he wants.

Afghanistan? No President is leaving Afghanistan without OBL's hide tacked to a wall. Obama said he would finish our business there, if you did not pick up that this meant more troops, you weren't paying attention. As good as we may have become interrupting terrorist plots, given enough time, sooner or later, they will get one through. We simply can't be looking everywhere all the time. If OBL is alive and gloating over it when it happens, this will be the political end for the party in power at the time. No President will risk this outcome, so we will keep shooting until we get him.

Personally, I am a pacifist, but I have never carried any illusions about this, and was never anything but certain that this was the path Obama would follow. There is no viable alternative for a President, Republican, Democrat, of Independent.

[krispos42]

22. Hey Freeper dumbasses

Okay, just because it's counter-intuitive doesn't mean it's wrong.

[Contrary1]

25. "I work for myself and cant justify showing up anymore."

:wtf:

[tsuki]

28. ncfool is not only a fool, but he is also an idiot. If he was really a

small businessman, which I doubt, he would know that the Republicons fillibustered the small business incentives and tax cuts.

And BTW, I really do not believe collecting $0.15 a post qualifies as a small business. That is piece work.