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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 06:26 PM
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So the right keeps pumping out this same talking point over and over
That the tax cuts have to be maintained for the rich because they will add jobs... WTF? There is never anything to back it up, just the same old repug bullshit where they keep repeating something and hope that it becomes fact when it is still bullshit. I would love to have just one of these repug assholes explain to me, if this is true, why have the rich not created jobs for the years they have already had the tax cuts? Of course, we know they won't because it's a steaming pile of bullshit.
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abelenkpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 06:31 PM
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1. Yeah cause those tax cuts the rich had
for the past ten years stopped the flood of good paying jobs leaving the country. Corporations and the wealthy clearly took that money and hired tons of people, providing great benefits and leaving the populace glowing in their generosity. It's not like the only jobs created were in the service sector with little or no benefits.

Honestly why do people still believe that when the very experience of living in the US for the past ten years says otherwise?
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HillbillyBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 06:32 PM
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2. The rich bastards don't create jobs they create more poor folks
by not paying those they do hire a living f ing wage.
May the god they so claim to honor strike the lot of them stupid..oh he did that din't he?
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 06:38 PM
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3. It's all they can do
That and trying to paint a vote for "middle" class tax cuts as a "tax increase for "EVERY" american! They know their brain dead teabagging base will believe it, and that's who they are trying to reach, the teabagers who threaten them with primary challenges in 2012! If anyone is playing politics with this it's the republicans! They have to cater to the teabaggers, and make up lies to get the tebaggers to "think" they are with them. As far as I am concerned anyone who thinks giving tax cuts to the rich do this country will do "any" good at all, are morons! Rich people will invest that money in some other country, or save it.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 06:40 PM
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4. This lie goes back at LEAST to the Reagan era.
At least that's as far back as my lifetime allows me to remember. Same lies, same proof that they are lies, over and over again, and some people still believe it.

They hate the poor, and they bow down to the rich. They imagine that if the wealthy lords just have more money, and more and more, they'll create jobs -- why? Because they have money. ("You never got a job from a poor person, did you?" they like to say.)

Yes, you do "get jobs" from poor people, and middle-class people... They are the ones whose labor and buying power keeps the economy going. (Although now that labor's outsourced, that's become skewed.) If a corporation -- excuse me, "small business" -- has money, they don't start creating jobs just to do it, if nobody's buying.

That's called "supply side economics" -- it doesn't work.

The idea that wealth "trickles down" doesn't work.

Even George H. W. Bush called it "voodoo economics," being against it before he was for it...

"Steaming pile of bullshit" works, too.
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 06:40 PM
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5. Exactly. It is very simple to counter the bullshit, yet none of our representatives do it.
Why? Well, who knows. We can guess. What we do know is that this is their tried and true method of pounding the lie into existence, through repetition.
They will keep doing this until it is repeated by the echo chamber and media proxies. It will also be repeated by the idiot followers who hang on their words for guidance.
We've seen it countless times. I am saying nothing new. Yet, YET, our side lets this happen, time after time.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 06:41 PM
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6. DEMS should be pumping out the truth about this - I hardly hear anything
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personman Donating Member (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 06:48 PM
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7. If they are rich, and they want to create jobs, they will regardless...
It's not like dropping the tax cuts will have them scraping money together to feed their kids... They're fucking rich!

I love all this "We're all in the same boat" bullshit, like the rich are just as in danger to lose houses, healthcare, (and their lives?) as the rest of us.
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 07:40 PM
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8. Demand creates jobs. Not under-taxed idle rich.
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personman Donating Member (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 11:41 AM
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12. We could argue the reverse of their talking point:
A progressive taxation system (more you make, more you pay) would mean more consumers have more money to spend, which in turn would create more demand, which would create more jobs.
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 12:36 PM
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14. Dare we dream of proaction? I'll settle for just a simple refutation.
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 07:43 PM
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9. Please tell me you're not suprised.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 07:48 PM
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10. They haven't added jobs over the last ten years. nt
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 09:18 PM
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11. 8 to be exact, but yes. They can be demonstrably shown to be FAILURES
and no one is making the case.
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the redcoat Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 11:51 AM
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13. The problem is no one will say "Show me historical proof"
Sometimes I think DU should have a TV show where the members get to ask and vote on questions.

I'm tired of the MSNBC pundits being nice to Conservatives that just spew talking points. When a conservative doesn't answer a question directly, they should be called out with "You didn't answer my question." or "That's a lie with no factual support." God knows I've thought that plenty of times.
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