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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 07:25 PM
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Can you believe that this is where we find ourselves in the waning hours of a Democratic majority?
DADT undone. It would have been so damned easy to do.

Still arguing about tax cut crap that should have been settled ages ago.

A loophole laden health insurance bill that, shitty as it is, is about to be undone.

The out of power party controlling the entire course of government.

Democrats cowering or capitulating. Or both.

Is it January 3rd yet? Imagine what fun will start of *that* date.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 07:27 PM
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1. Dude, it's a fixed table.
There is no left or right any longer, it's just about who's on top and who's on bottom. This is a comedy, a serious comedy, comedy that hurts.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 07:29 PM
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2. I can believe it.
It was probably Rahm's plan from the get-go.

Remember, he thought the post-1994 Clinton era was the good old days. Rahm and his enablers WANT a peramanent Republican Congress with a powerless "Democratic" president as figurehead.

They and our party's leaders clearly never wanted to win this fall's elections. They wanted two years and out. If they'd wanted to win, we could have won.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 07:33 PM
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4. My feeling as well
I've never seen a less effective, less spirited election than by the Democrats this year.

It was obvious the party wanted to be out of power in Congress.

In fact I think they were quietly disappointed they held on to the Senate.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 07:32 PM
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3. Yes, I can actually. nt
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mindem Donating Member (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 07:36 PM
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5. Oh boy!! We get to endure 2 years
of an endless parade of right wing Plutocrats like Boner expressing outrage over everything. Endless hearings and investigations and God knows what else. And a constant haranging from their base in anticipation of 2012. What Fun!!!
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 07:40 PM
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6. The Republicans are an unstoppable force that Americans are dying to kiss up to.
Apparently.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 07:47 PM
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7. that's a bit of a stretch
Edited on Thu Dec-02-10 07:51 PM by bigtree
DADT repeal is inevitable. Even the Pentagon was warning of a court challenge forcing the change. The remaining republicans that are in the way are going against the military they spend so much time campaigning behind. There is every possibility the President will abandon the legislative approach, if it indeed fails, and order the change. The military report would support that.

The tax crap is going down a predictable path, despite the raised hopes and histrionics.

The demise of the health bill is overstated. There were always going to be challenges, but many important and vital provisions are still surviving those challenges.

at least the White House believes so: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/11/30/another-health-care-court-victory

___ Since the enactment of health reform legislation in March, several state Attorneys General and others opposed to the law have filed lawsuits challenging the constitutionality of the Affordable Care Act. Legal challenges like this are nothing new. Challenges to the Social Security Act, the Civil Rights Act, and the Voting Rights Act all failed.

Now, challenges to the health care law are failing in court. In October, a federal judge in Michigan found that the Affordable Care Act is constitutional. Today, a federal judge in Virginia dismissed a lawsuit brought by Liberty University that challenged the constitutionality of the health reform law. The judge upheld the law and said that the requirement that individuals maintain health insurance is constitutional, writing:

“I hold that there is a rational basis for Congress to conclude that individuals’ decisions about how and when to pay for health care are activities that in the aggregate substantially affect the interstate health care market…Nearly everyone will require health care services at some point in their lifetimes, and it is not always possible to predict when one will be afflicted by illness or injury and require care…Far from ‘inactivity,’ by choosing to forgo insurance, Plaintiffs are making an economic decision to try to pay for health care services later, out of pocket, rather than now, through the purchase of insurance. As Congress found, the total incidence of these economic decisions has a substantial impact on the national market for health care by collectively shifting billions of dollars on to other market participants and driving up the prices of insurance policies.”

We can’t predict the outcome of each case, but we are confident that we will ultimately prevail in court and continue to deliver the benefits of reform to the American people. ____


What was the rest . . . ?

This looks like about where I expected we'd be, looking at the balance of power and motivations in the legislature. I really didn't see the health bill passing tho . . .
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 08:07 PM
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8. yes, it's very depressing
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 10:58 PM
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9. Just two two years ago there was
such hope at what was going to be accomplished. It's now clear it was all a scam, there was no intent to do what we expected. Living through the Bu$h years was so hard and they used our need for that hope but living through these past two years of one disappointment after another has been downright depressing. It's harder to accept from people who you thought were for you, to whom you invested the time and energy. We had a chance to have a majority for many years and we couldn't even keep it one election.
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GSLevel9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 11:13 PM
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10. could be worse...
Buck, Angle, O'donnell and Rossi could be Senators.
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 11:15 PM
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11. Sure, in a fantasy universe.
Back in reality, Republicans blocked the issues you discuss and the health insurance bill is not about to be undone.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 06:09 PM
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13. I wish it were undone. I remain convinced that we'd be better off without it.
But I agree with you that it won't be undone, because it makes the health insurance, pharmaceutical, and hospital industries very happy--and that makes Republicans happy. Repubicans won't change the things that benefit their big donors. They may eliminate a few crumbs that were thrown to the masses, however.

-Laelth
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 11:18 PM
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12. Well, at least the Dem's are keeping their powder dry for that really big
battle coming up.

:mad:

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