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live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 08:47 AM
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So the Today Show just did a piece saying Palin and Republicons outsell "librul" authors
Of course the extrapolation is that $$$ spent = popularity.

In reality $$$ spent = Military Industrial Complex = Purchased media (including books) = Propoganda


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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 08:51 AM
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1. People are very attracted to reading crap. I mean even I loved reading the
Twilight series. :D
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 09:04 AM
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5. I'm actually curious how many of those books ever get read.
There's the obvious joke to be made about tea baggers and other conservatives being illiterate, but I've also seen many conservative books heavily discounted and piled into stacks and stacks at big box stores. The publisher has "sold" these books, but I wonder how many of them are purchased.
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Epiphany4z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 09:09 AM
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6. they get bought up
by republican groups then handed out to members and if you go to stores like Sam's club there are no...zip....zilch..nada...just not one book coming from the left...its all right wing they have beck,palin,rush,hanity....on and on.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 09:24 AM
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14. That's exactly right; I posted on the practice years ago. They also get donated
en masse to libraries that don't want and can't use them.
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feuclair Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 05:06 PM
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34. Exactly and this has been their MO for many years
They may not be smart of good but they know how to manipulate the media.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 09:19 AM
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11. I believe there was a suvey saying that the average teabagger was actually MORE educated...
...than average. This makes sense because I have noticed that the "rugged individualist" mentality seems quite common among engineers and accountants, basically the kind of people that tend to repress their "touchy-feely" gut sentiments and thus lash out at "bleeding heart Liberals" for "not understanding cruel economic realities".
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 09:29 AM
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17. Having seen the rally signs of the more fervent supporters...
...I'd like to see those numbers.

There's also the trend of the likelihood of being liberal increasing with education. And, of course, the issue of who actually reads. I have several post-graduate degrees and I'll admit to not reading political books.

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TexasProgresive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 10:26 AM
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23. Many engineers have difficulty with spelling and grammer
and those are the ones American born and educated.
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 05:03 PM
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33. So do technicians....
spelling is illogical. Technical people understand logic.

For example, Murphy's law:

Anything that can possibly go wrong, does.

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feuclair Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 05:12 PM
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35. not the old ones and most baggers are oldish
spelling used to be a very big deal. It's become less important since , say, the 70s.
Just read the papers that are turned in for college credits nowadays. Jawdropping.
Apologies to you younger people who know how to write coherently and spell.
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live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 06:26 PM
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40. "...More educated than average" what...is the question. They omitted some info in that survey. nt
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 09:24 AM
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15. I couldn't say if they read them or not but Palin is in Cincinnati today
at one of the Kroger stores here and the baggers have been lined up since last night. Maybe all it takes is for her to show up and sign the books and the people getting them signed never read them. The local news was interviewing some ofthe people waiting this morning and they think she's Jesus in a dress. It was hard to watch.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 08:54 AM
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2. Well sure. A fool and his money are soon parted. nt
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 09:16 AM
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9. Emphasis on "fool"
She was in the Indianapolis area last night, the county north of Marion (Hamilton) which is almost 100% GOP. The local media, of course, were there to interview those people who waited in line for more than a day to meet this woman. Their comments were very telling of who she attracts. One guy was buying the book for his brother, who likes Palin and who also -- verbatim quote -- "kills animals." (WTF????) A girl in her late teens said she looks up to Palin, thinks she's a good role model, and wants to be just like her as an adult. When one old man was asked if she could be president, you could tell that deep down he wasn't exactly convinced, but then he remembered where he was and said, "Well, yeah, sure -- I guess." One more comment from the Brain Trust: "She's smart. She knows the Constitution and a lot of other documents."

:crazy:



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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 09:03 AM
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3. It is the same theory and reality of why right-wing talk shows do better. The
Edited on Fri Dec-03-10 09:06 AM by EV_Ares
right-wingers at the bottom of the republican feed trough will listen to Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity and others all day long. That is why they are called ditto-heads, they do not think for themselves. Fox is their thinker along with right-wing radio. These people are bible toting, gun loving and call themselves christians.

As far as books, doesn't matter if they can read or not, they will buy anything Palin or Limbaugh and the others put out there.

Liberals, progressives and the left will not just digest any crap that comes out of the media box or air-waves regardless if it is left or right, they decide and think for themselves and they don't buy every book written by a progressive. It has to have substance or be at least a good book.

The tea bagger leaders say get on a bus & go to DC, they go. Rush says go to FL & pound on windows they go. Rush says vote dem in the primaries, they do. They are ditto heads.

Also, those books are bought in bulk. Churches buy them up & give to their followers. Just like that movie a few years ago that was in another language. Churches bought out theaters.

Just a thought.
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Gaedel Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 09:53 AM
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20. I just can't help myself when handed a "straight line" like that.....
"Liberals, progressives and the left will not just digest any crap that comes out of the media box or air-waves regardless if it is left or right, they decide and think for themselves and they don't buy every book written by a progressive. It has to have substance or be at least a good book."

They don't have time to read. They spend all of their time in the bookstores running around mis-shelving and hiding conservative books. Then they get their laptops on Wi-Fi to start a thread on DU about it.

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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 02:04 PM
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27. I just can't help myself with a line like that you just did. First, we don't waste our time
Edited on Fri Dec-03-10 02:28 PM by EV_Ares
hiding nonsensical books of Beck, Palin, however, have seen people doing that with books written by dems and liberals like the other day @ Costco, somebody was covering one of Obama's up with Palin's book somebody wrote for her; must be a teabagger thing.

Sounds like maybe you have taken the time to hide books since you appear to have that knowledge of such a waste of time game. Was that on orders by Limbaugh?

Happy Holidays/Merry Xmas.
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 03:16 PM
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30. You have been exposed accusing DUers of this before. Remember when you posted this?
Edited on Fri Dec-03-10 03:34 PM by EV_Ares
Same number of posts (618) then as today.


Gaedel (618 posts) Thu Aug-26-10 09:34 AM
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5. Same as our DU heroes........
Edited on Thu Aug-26-10 09:34 AM by Gaedel
who run around Barnes & Noble hiding Anne Coulter books then coming on DU to brag about it.

You might want to go back & read the responses to you on that one.

Again, with all of your accusations about DUers doing this, I would say you are probably about the only one on here probably doing anything like that.
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Gaedel Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 04:56 PM
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31. Having worked in a library.......
I don't disturb books, the shelving of books, or book displays and it just infuriates me when people brag about doing so. No matter how "righteous" their motives, it is just plain wrong. To me, a person doing this to books (whether from the right or the left) is saying that his ideas cannot compete with other ideas on an open playing field.

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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 05:00 PM
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32. Well, I agree with that and as I told you before where you were making the accusations about
DUers. I am not going to waste my time with a Beck, Palin or O'Reilly book of lies. If someone wants to waste their money on something like that, so be it. As I stated I will buy a book for its content or for some knowledge I can get out of it. Also, as a liberal, Independent, leftist, whatever you want it to be, I do have time to read.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 09:03 AM
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4. Those books are "sold" in bulk units to right wing groups who all but give ....
Edited on Fri Dec-03-10 09:13 AM by Botany
.... em away but since they were "sold" the books are rated as best sellers.

I think it was Palin's book that you could have gotten for something like $5.99 and a year's
subscription to some right wing schlock magazine.

right now you can buy Sarah's new book for $5.50 on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/Sarah-Palin-America-Heart-Hardcover-Nov-2010-/220705611497?pt=US_Nonfiction_Book&hash=item3363145ee9#ht_576wt_1141

It is listed @ 25.99 but even Borders Books has it (Palin's new book) priced at $12.99 so you can be sure somehow
it is be partially paid for by some means.
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lldu Donating Member (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 09:14 AM
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7. I believe Sarah's PAC bought most of her books :) nt
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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 09:16 AM
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8. Bought them and giving them away.......
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 09:17 AM
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10. Her "PAC" Bought 64,000 Copies...
They spent a chunk of change on the last one as well...

http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2010/02/palin_pac_spent.php

And from what I read the sales on this latest waste of trees wasn't enough to get it into the NYT Top 10. Be who cares? The corporate media does. They love "Scorecards"...polls, book sales, number of followers on Twitter...anything that they can use to shape their narratives.
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 09:21 AM
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12. Then Danielle Steele should run for president by that standard
She's sold 500 million books. She must be the most popular person around! :eyes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_fiction_authors
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 09:23 AM
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13. With Stephen King or John Grisham as a running mate?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 09:27 AM
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16. Steele/King 2016; I like it! Scandalous love affairs and mind bending
horror is just what the US needs now!
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 09:40 AM
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19. Judging from what the media reports, I thought we already had that?
:shrug:

;)
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 10:28 AM
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24. Ah, but at least with Steele/King, it would be crafted ever so much better...
:rofl:
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 09:36 AM
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18. repukes are big on door stops. nt
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 09:54 AM
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21. Well it could be "libruls" buying those books, too....
Not for reading, though...

Hollow them out and you have a nifty place for hiding cash or whatever.

The point there being you hide your stuff in a place nobody's likely to care about looking...


:7

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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 09:58 AM
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22. Did they subtract bulk buys by right wing groups?
That's a standard tactic on the right-- they make bulk purchases to boost the sales figures.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 10:30 AM
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25. Of course not. The NYT bestseller list doesn't even dagger those anymore.
Ask a librarian about that stuff, you will get quite an earful, I promise...
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 10:54 AM
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26. Sorry to hear that. Another win for the Right. //nt
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feuclair Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 05:15 PM
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36. Another corporate media
boost for the right.
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texshelters Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 02:06 PM
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28. Fiction almost always out sells
non-fiction. So where's the news?

Peace,
Tex Shelters
http://texshelters.wordpress.com/
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 02:39 PM
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29. It could be that people with more than half a brain don't need to read the
same crap repackaged every three months or so...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 05:16 PM
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37. Bulk buys by right wing stink tanks that end up in landfill.
lol
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 05:29 PM
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38. Americans love underdogs ...
The more we ridicule Sarah Palin and her family and the more we laugh at her, the stronger she becomes. The more we and the late night comedians snicker at and bully her, the more we appear to be intellectual elitists.

Many here believe that we are far smarter than conservatives and in fact this may well be true. The fact remains that you don't make friends or gain votes by looking down your nose at people.

G. W. Bush never came across as as smart as Al Gore or John Kerry but he still won. (I know the elections were close and Gore should have won but for the Supreme Court.) Bush was likable and people thought Gore was intelligent but wooden and Kerry waffled and pandered to the voters.

Being the brightest student in class doesn't guarantee that you will become school president.

Sarah Palin would be a true catastrophe for our country if she ran and became President. Admittedly she could win the Republican nomination but lose in the general election. Still better candidates for the Republican nomination might fall by the wayside. If Obama loses, we need to have a good person to replace him. I don't expect him to lose as I expect the economy will be in full recovery in two years. But if he can't correct the economic problems we currently face, his chances of being elected are very slim. Sarah Palin will be merely a puppet of the corporate interests. I hate to say it but many Republicans are far more qualified for the office than Sarah Palin.

Obviously I want Obama to win and I believe that he will. But if someone else defeats Obama, I definitely hope that it is not Sarah Palin.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 05:36 PM
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39. Fuel for the winter?
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