Every teabagger I know is over 70. I know it's only anecdotal evidence, but

[LiberalLoner]

I have to say it's about the only thing keeping me going and not plunging into total despair right now.

I don't think the teabaggers are going to win, or are going to take over the U.S., because I think within another decade or two, the teabaggers will be gone and no longer voting.

There will always be the fight against the corporations and greed, but I think when the teabag generation dies off, there will be less of a problem with homophobia and racism and sexism.

I know not all people of that generation are racist or homophobic, but there are for sure some people in that generation who are. And they sure are loud lately.

[CountAllVotes]

1. age and racism

These two things do not necessarily go together. I can think of more than one person out there with the teabagger mentality that is under the age of 70 years. Just look around.

They are all over the place FYI, including members of your generation and my generation.

Racism has roots that grow deep in the minds, hearts and souls of many.

No single group is exempt from being racist.

[LiberalLoner]

6. I wish I understood what causes racism and sexism and homophobia. Is it just some

evil that is born fresh into every new generation? Does it come about as a result of cultural trends? Or is it just passed on from generation to generation?

Why can't we defeat it?

[Little Star]

32. I wish that you felt the same way about ageism and wanted to defeat it.

[LiberalLoner]

34. I'm very much against ageism. I'm 50 myself after all. n/t

[Little Star]

47. I would never have guessed that you were against ageism.....

Your OP read just the opposite as many others have tried to point out to you.

But I am willing to take you at your word.

Peace, LS

[CountAllVotes]

49. the answer you seek

I believe that some of it could be generational but I don't see it that way. I've seen people like this in all colors, sexes, ages, etc.

You ask a complex question that I cannot answer. I can only give perspectives on how I see it and I don't think it is at all fair to try to blame all on one group.

Frankly, I think we have come far.

I can remember the days of the segregated buses and schools.

I can remember the day when a child could not attend schools because of their socio-economic status in society. I can remember the day that it mattered if you were a Catholic or a Protestant in the schools as well.

I remember the days that the Black person had to sit in the back of the bus.

I can remember the day when a racially mixed marriage was absolutely not allowed in our society; it was condemned and shameful at best.

I remember the day you could be lynched for being a homosexual.

I can remember the day that a woman could not easily obtain birth control products. I remember the day that abortion was illegal.

I can remember the day that you could get fired from your job for living with a member of the same sex; no one would ever admit to being "gay".

We've come a long damn way IMO.

As for the racists etc. that are left behind, let them stay where they are as the rest of us move along in life and continue to foster change.



:dem:

[HereSince1628]

2. The only tea-bagger I know personally is 34

When I lived thru all that historic stuff back in the '60's I swore my generation wouldn't raise anything that 40 years later could be ageist, corpratist, homophobic, racist and sexist.

But 40 years later, one of them is raising my grandchild.

I think that my retirement and life on the planet in general would be more secure if those 30 something teabaggers were quiet and not voting.

[LiberalLoner]

3. Oh, jeez, I'm so sorry. :( That really sucks. I only know teabaggers over 70, which is why

I said I had hope for the future. Apparently my hope is to be very short-lived.

WHEN will we defeat racism and homophobia and sexism?

WHEN will things get better?

Is it truly hopeless?

[CountAllVotes]

50. +1,000,000

n/t

[leftstreet]

4. The only thing keeping you going is the thought of elderly people dying?

Jesus

Nice broadbrush bigoted statements against the elderly

[LiberalLoner]

7. I realize not all elderly people are teabaggers. But for the ones who are...yeah, I think

it will be a better world when there are fewer of them voting.

[leftstreet]

16. Why stop there? Why not extend that to Republicans?

Or anyone else you disagree with?

Unbelievable

[LiberalLoner]

19. Yup, I absolutely wish the world were filled with more progressives and fewer regressives.

And I make no apologies for hoping that each new generation shakes off more and more racism, sexism and homophobia.

[Name removed]

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[LiberalLoner]

23. For some reason, people are intentionally ignoring the fact that I wrote I know not all old people

are racist and homophobic.

[LiberalLoner]

24. And, thanks for the personal attack, too. Greatly appreciated. n/t

[leftstreet]

27. LOL You issue a Senior Fatwah on DU and worry about your 'feelings'

:rofl:

[LiberalLoner]

28. Why are you deliberately misreading my original post along with other

messages I wrote stating I know not all seniors are teabaggers and racists?

[leftstreet]

39. You don't explain yourself very well. You must be a female

It's only anecdotal of course, but most women I know are complete morons and I think the world will be a much better place....

[LiberalLoner]

41. LOL n/t

[LiberalLoner]

42. Okay, you win. I hope that with every passing year, we become more racist, more homophobic and

more sexist. There. Happy now? You win.

[patrice]

12. +1~~

[CountAllVotes]

51. yep, another hatred of the elderly thread

and damn does it ever get old old old.

As I stated in an earlier post, my generation has done much. Those 70+ have done just as much if not more.

I honor the elderly among us. I value each and every one of them because they have something I do not have and that is wisdom. With age comes wisdom and you cannot buy that. ;)

[patrice]

5. That means that they are going to listen to us about protecting Medicare from reforms that

perpetuate fat CEO salaries at the expense of care and care-givers.

Fixing Medicare WILL be good for EVERYONE. Republicans are just looking for more opportunities to destroy it and throw more "care" into the not-free market run by Saint-Co., amongst others.

[LiberalLoner]

10. I don't know, my teabagger father is 76 and wants to do away with SS entirely. Won't hurt

him especially since he gets retirement pay.

[patrice]

29. There are always out-lyers. The average will be nearer the center on most issues. This fact means th

at they, the "average", can also be pushed one way or the other, mostly toward the "Right" given our MSM, but their inherent tendency is actually toward the center and possibly even a little "Left". Here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/02/civil-political-discourse-vs-modern-cons_n_791342.html

[LiberalLoner]

33. Thank you for the link! I just read that the latest tea party thing is that only property owners

should be able to vote. I hope that never gets implemented.

[patrice]

36. MSM is casting some very serious WARP into what's going on. I listen to Thom Hartmann.

[LiberalLoner]

38. I've never heard of him but will look him up, thank you. n/t

[LiberalLoner]

40. Just looked at his site - looks very interesting, thanks for recommending him to me! :) n/t

[patrice]

44. I take back what I just said about your heart.

:hi:

[LiberalLoner]

45. Thank you :) I really do appreciate that. :) n/t

[patrice]

43. He has a big website with all of the bells & whistles. There are free radio show downloads. I take

one of the subscriptions, which I think is $7.50 a month, and I download whatever I want to my iPod.

Thom gets all of the big Liberals on his show; recently talked to Russ Baker (Family of Secrets - about the Bush family going way way back) and also talked to Chris Hedges recently too, but one of the things I like most about Thom is that, not only does he have really deep roots in Social Justice and The Constitution and is a long-standing Liberal with genuine Liberal credentials - he also TEACHES constantly, everything about everything that's going on.

Here you go: http://www.thomhartmann.com/

[patrice]

8. BTW, that's REALLY very frakked-up thinking you got going on there. There's something wrong with

your heart.

[LiberalLoner]

11. ? Really? I hope Cheney dies soon too. Shrug. I think it will be a better world without

people like him in it.

[patrice]

20. Uh . . . not ALL of us are Cheney. & If you've been listening to Senator Sanders at all . . .

You'd know that Medicare CAN figure big in UNIVERSAL Health Care.

We NEED common cause with genuine ***POPULIST*** deficit-hawks (not phony ones like SP) to fix Medicare and, yes, that includes Tea Partyers. Thom Hartmann has been saying this for months and months.

[LiberalLoner]

21. I'd LOVE to see Medicare for all! The teabaggers I know personally want to do away with

medicare/medicaid/ss entirely though. Maybe there are some who don't want that.

[patrice]

25. And I should say that ANY bigotry IS a deal breaker, with Tea Partyers or anyone else.

and that has to go for no matter how sweet the "deal" is.

[LiberalLoner]

26. I agree completely with you on that, 100% n/t

[LiberalLoner]

9. In case you missed it - I KNOW NOT ALL OLD PEOPLE ARE RACIST....

I'm just saying that every teabagger I know personally, is over the age of 70. And I have read that teabaggers tend to be older than the average voter, male, white, and affluent.

[ejpoeta]

13. my brother will be 40 in february... and he is a teabagger.

listens to beck who apparently knows everything and whatever he says IS true no matter what proof or evidence there is that shows he isn't telling the truth. i have given up even trying to discuss anything with my brother. it is very sad really. he must think he sprouted up from nothing and made himself what he is with his house and camper.... never mind that he is perched precariously on the edge of a chasm that any injury or job loss could send him careening into living in his car. just like the rest of us. only illegals get welfare and food stamps. illegals and all those lazy black folks who live in nyc. how many times can you tell someone that illegals CAN"T GET WELFARE OR FOOD STAMPS!! you have to prove you are a citizen or here legally! grr. and when he refers to all those lazy welfare people, he is referring to me who have been on assistance and am currently getting state health insurance. but that is different somehow.

he also would freak out if he caught his son playing with dolls when his son was younger. somehow he might catch teh gay or something. brother.

[LiberalLoner]

15. This sucks. :( WHY? Why are people still buying the racism and homophobia crap?

What on earth is wrong with people?

Great. That means there is absolutely no hope for the future at all. This sucks.

[w8liftinglady]

14. i wish that were true in my area...it's not.

A slew of moms with young kids are blithely "Tea Party patriots"

and,yes...there are plenty of over-70 ones,too.
Red Tea party areas are gonna include the masses...

[pitohui]

17. you just don't know a lot of teabaggers

there are plenty of young racists, in fact, i think many of the young are the most racist, because that brief period of time where we all went to the same schools and got to know each other, has vanished, and society is mostly very much segregated by race and class

rich/upper middles/aspiring now all send their kids to private schools, there is never a time where people meet and learn that people are really people, fellow human beings, even if they happen to be born poor

i WISH your observation was on the mark but it isn't even remotely close to reality

we had a brief moment in the mid-century where it looked like people were really waking up and shaking off their hatred, and in that time we have made some amazing strides fighting racism/sexism etc. but it has completely stalled out...and the die hard teabagger neo-nazi types are roaring back as full of hate as ever

the folks who consistently spam the entire internet with hate against "canadians" are NOT the over 70s, they're the kids...and that's damn scary

as for as gender equality, i have given up hope that it will happen in my lifetime, my generation made the most strides but ultimately all the benefit and cool jobs for women went to the upper middle class and the very beautiful women who married the right men, for the rest of us, we have actually lost ground and are pretty much completely despised -- and younger women know it perfectly well that they don't have equal chances in the job market, they're basically looking to make it by selling their ass, it might as well be 1800 or 1900, nothing has changed for most of us, we are either sex objects or we are considered to have nothing of value to society at all -- i realize it isn't just tea baggers and "christians" who despise women, but i see nothing to give me hope that i'll be considered equal in my lifetime -- of course, too much of my life has now passed for me to ever make up the lost ground/lost opportunity/lost earnings but i hate to see the same thing happening to younger women -- most of them just take it for granted that they have to strip for extra money or marry "a good catch" for extra money

it breaks my heart that, in 2010, the best way for a young woman to make a lot of money is to catch a rich man and have his child -- our society doesn't really believe that women have brains and it's promoted in the media constantly that this is our role...


the world is improving but so slowly that just waiting for the 70 year olds to die sure as hell won't help any of us alive today

[LiberalLoner]

18. That just makes me sick. I really thought that with time, good would triumph over evil. I guess it

is not going to happen. Not in my lifetime anyway. I am so effing depressed.

[pitohui]

30. it will eventually i think but no, not in our lifetime

civilization has been around for thousands of years and for most of it, it's been hell for most people

it was unrealistic of us to think it would suddenly be utopia in our lifetimes

we make slow incremental changes and improvements and contribute to a great fabric but i wonder sometimes if it won't be another thousand years before we have true equality and freedom for all

it will come someday, all we can do is try to leave this place a little better and hope the small kindnesses eventually add up

[LiberalLoner]

31. I think you are right...n/t

[LynneSin]

35. I've seen them of all ages but one thing they have in common - most of them are white

paranoid as hell that they might have to share the American Dream with people not-white.

[LiberalLoner]

37. That's another thing that gives me hope - I've heard that within a few

decades, whites will no longer be in the majority. My hope is that when this happens, racism will disappear. I hope so anyway.

[sinkingfeeling]

46. I know several dozen teabaggers in their 30's and 40's.

[LiberalLoner]

48. :( Okay, I shouldn't wish death on teabaggers and neo-nazis. Instead I will wish that they would

be raptured up into their own lily white, aryan heaven where Hitler shakes their hands every day and white robes with hoods are the daily uniform. And I hope they will be deliriously happy forever in their right-wing heaven. And I hope I never have to deal with them again.

[Hello_Kitty]

52. I know a few who are snotty Young Republican types. But yeah, most are old. eom