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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 10:17 PM
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Jee... Zus... Christ !!!
Obama’s Decision to Push Bush’s NAFTA-Style Korea Trade Deal Without Real Fixes Is Major Policy, Political Mistake
PublicCitizen
Dec. 3, 2010

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The U.S. Chamber of Commerce and GOP congressional leaders must be gleeful that they are getting the Obama administration to take ownership of another Bush NAFTA-style trade deal that would simultaneously favor their job offshoring agenda and put Obama’s re-election in peril.

Why the administration would consider moving another NAFTA-style trade deal is inexplicable, especially given that export growth under past U.S. free trade agreements was less than half of that to the rest of U.S. trade partners. Bush-era International Trade Commission studies show the Korea deal will increase America’s trade deficit, and Americans across diverse demographics are united in opposition to more-of-the-same trade policy.

Choosing to advance Bush’s NAFTA-style Korea free trade agreement rather than the new trade policy President Obama promised during his campaign will mean more American job loss and puts the White House at odds with the majority of Americans who, polling shows, oppose more-of-the-same job-offshoring agreements.

Merely tweaking the “cars and cows” market access provisions of Bush’s NAFTA-style Korea trade pact but leaving in place the offshoring-promoting foreign investor protections is a slap in the face to the majority of Americans who, according to repeated polls, oppose the same old trade policy that has cost millions of American jobs.


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More: http://www.citizen.org/pressroom/pressroomredirect.cfm?ID=3226

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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 10:20 PM
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1. Well, it remains to be seen but I do think we never learn from our past fuck ups. nt
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 10:22 PM
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4. I believe you are correct,sir....Oy.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 10:53 PM
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11. Isn't that kind of behavior part of the definition of insanity???
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 10:57 PM
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13. Or extreme gullibility. nt
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alterfurz Donating Member (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 08:52 AM
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20. This administration doesn't seem to learn from its mistakes...
...it just seems to learn mistakes.
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 08:22 AM
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37. It makes sense when you re-arrange your own head
When you stop thinking the US Government exists to protect the citizens of the US, and realize that the US Government exists to protects its owners, then it all makes perfect sense.

Life becomes much simpler. The headache from trying to shout at the willfully deaf at the top subsides. And you can get on with the very important task of surviving the toxic brew that they are pissing on our heads, and getting out from under the deluge of piss raining down from our "superiors."
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 10:21 PM
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2. Sigh. n/t
-Laelth
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veganlush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 10:22 PM
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3. What about it makes it
Edited on Fri Dec-03-10 10:22 PM by veganlush
..."NAFTA style", exactly?
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 10:23 PM
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5. Are you at all aware that Rahm Emanuel was responsible for the
Legal language on the legislation that made NAFTA the law of our land.

I am not all that sure that Obama needed any persuading by Republicans to have this Korean deal happen. (Though he may pretend that that is the case.) His being against NAFTA was just another one of his many pretty little campaign pledges that he forgot as soon as he was in the Oval Office.
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lob1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 10:31 PM
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6. I feel like I'm stuck in a Bob Dylan song.
"You know something's happening, but you don't know what it is...
Do you, Mr. Jones..."

What is he doing? That'll really help get us out of this mess, shipping more jobs overseas??
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 10:33 PM
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7. I don't know what to make of this.
I'm waiting for the usual cheerleaders to show up & tell me how he had to compromise in order to…uh, something.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 10:42 PM
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8. His actions are so contrary to what he said he stood for that I have to wonder if he is
1) a liar from the beginning
2) Has a gun to his head
3) been drugged

I see no other choices on this one.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 10:54 PM
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12. Been replaced by a clone that the repukes created???
It is impossible to come up with a reasonable explanation...
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 12:14 AM
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18. I have given three that are very possible. I can't think of any more that are possible.
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FedUpWithIt All Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 12:33 AM
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19. #4 Blackmail
:shrug:

Wouldn't be the first time in politics
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 08:56 AM
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22. He's the REAL Manchurian candidate?
:shrug:
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 10:50 AM
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24. Wouldn't THAT be ironic, If all the "birthers" were right, but in actuality,
the ultimate goal was to undermine the country by allowing it to be dragged all the way to the right...

:crazy: :wow: :scared: :shrug: :silly:
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 07:00 PM
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28. Interesting points...I can definitely believe in the first two..
I'm not sure about the third...Wouldn't he SEEM drugged?..I'm not very sophisticated on that issue.:blush:
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 10:43 PM
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9. When you think it
Edited on Fri Dec-03-10 10:44 PM by Nite Owl
can't get worse...

We're bleeding jobs, if this goes through it's over for Obama and any dems for a long time.


spelling edited
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 11:51 PM
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15. Looks like we're headed for one party rule and a unitary executive,
the repubs wet dream. Dubya must be laughing his ass off.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 10:52 PM
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10. I hope unions withhold their endorsements next time around.
This union member certainly will.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 11:03 PM
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14. We all should have taken "admiring Reagan" much more seriously. nt
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 12:04 AM
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17. Sadly, yes. nt
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 07:15 PM
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31. +100 .nt
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 07:16 PM
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33. It sure raised red flags in my mind.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 12:03 AM
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16. The hits just keep on coming
So when do we march on Washington again?
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 08:55 AM
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21. Stop hitting your head against the wall. You're just going to hurt yourself.
Obama is a DLCer who admires Reagan's visionary inspiration after the 'excesses of the 60's".
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 10:33 AM
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23. it's like he wants Palin to be president.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 03:09 PM
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25. Abusers and their Enablers
Sociopaths and the idiots who let the sociopaths get what they want.

Obama's alleged 150 IQ ain't worth shit if he is an enabler of evil in human suits.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 03:15 PM
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27. As always, you know how to express it! "enabler of evil in human suits."
:applause:

:yourock:
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 05:07 AM
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36. Hi Bobbie
Been feeling shitty but I put up a post, it sank, but you might like it.The links are interesting..
I'm going to sleep, but I'll see ya around. Still waiting..I'll PM you tommorrow sometime.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9692404
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 12:13 PM
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38. Great thread, and I posted to it -- thanks for notifying me.
Really sorry you are feeling so down.

In some ways, I am not surprised. Those of us who see things so clearly and are sensitive to the suffering of others, suffer ourselves for that sensitivity. Your vision is so clear... it must really drive you bonkers at times.

Its not much, but my best wishes go with you!

I'm in the process of winding up my project, and it is driving me around the bend, also. :/

:pals:
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 03:12 PM
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26. Obushma
what a disaster
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 07:05 PM
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29. He's f*cking toast!
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 07:12 PM
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30. This shit is a major slap in the face
to progressives and to all working Americans
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 07:16 PM
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32. This is that "moving to the center" thing.
Even though it's going to be hugely unpopular we are told this is the "center" where the voters are.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 08:06 PM
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35. *laughs*
The "center" according to them is way above our heads, in the center of 1% land.

Who knows where the hell they live, but it seems to be incredibly profitable for them.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 07:42 PM
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34. K&R
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