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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 12:07 AM
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Those who do not learn from history
are often laughed at by those who do.


Today's email from my Teabag leaning uncle and aunt:



Only 31 words --- Think about it
Isn't life strange? I never met one Veteran who enlisted to fight for Socialism.
86% will send this on.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG,
OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA ,
AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT
STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD,
INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND
JUSTICE FOR ALL!

If Muslims can pray on Madison Avenue, why are Christians banned from praying in public and erecting religious displays on their holy days? What happened to our National Day of Prayer? Obama says we can't have that, yet Muslims are allowed to block off Madison Ave. in N. Y. and pray in the middle of the street! And, it's a monthly ritual! Tell me again, whose country is this? Ours or the Muslims?

I was asked to send this on if I agree, or delete if I don't. It is said that 86% of Americans believe in God.

Therefore I have a very hard time understanding why there is such a problem in having 'In God We Trust' on our money and having 'God' in the Pledge of Allegiance. I believe it's time we stand up for what we believe! If you agree, pass this on, if not, delete


In the email list: 'Newt Gingrich'; 'NRA Store'; 'OPEN from American Express';'Tea Party Patriots'

Now rather than "debate" point by point, which is about as useful as combing sand to keep it neat, I tend hit reply all and go for the overarching "excuse me but your stupid is showing" .

My reply:

Ummm.. I know you weren’t trying to be funny. But knowing that a Socialist actually WROTE the Pledge of Allegiance, I couldn’t help it… I laughed so hard I just about peed myself…

The Pledge of Allegiance of the United States is an oath of loyalty to the national flag and the republic of the United States of America, originally composed by Francis Bellamy in 1892. Bellamy was a Christian socialist, and the cousin of socialist utopian novelist Edward Bellamy (1850–1898).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance



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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 12:10 AM
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1. But, but, but, he was an MURICAN ZOCIALIST, so he's one of us!
I am almost hearing that answer...

Good answer though... and also you may want to add just how SOCIALIST the armed forces actually are.
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NuclearDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 12:10 AM
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2. I really hate it when people dangle that "fighting for your freedoms" crap in front of us
Because at least in the last ten years, it wasn't the military defending our rights.
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 12:30 AM
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7. +1
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 12:30 AM
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8. delete
Edited on Sat Dec-04-10 12:30 AM by Dawson Leery
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 12:34 AM
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10. That hasn't been true since 1945
and how free are we when other people force us to pray their way in public?

Not very.
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lunasun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 12:44 AM
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12. longer than 10 yrs - I dont understand why it works when dangled
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 12:10 AM
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3. I thank the rotating deity for not having teabaggerati relatives
All quiet in my mail box
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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 12:19 AM
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6. I think aunty actually gets a secret and perverse pleasure out of
having me send emails to the mass of people on her To: list. And if I'm not busy I comb the FWD:Fwd:fwd:fwd:fwd: list too and include them.

why should they miss out on the party?
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 12:13 AM
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4. Since when are Christians not allowed to pray in public?
Since when are they not allowed to have their displays?

They can pray and display like effing peacocks if they want. They just don't have the right to make the government a part of their Chrispyanity.
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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 12:15 AM
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5. It's like shouting at a stone wall. Hence the: You iz be a Moran....
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 12:33 AM
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9. absolutely NO correlation between saying the christian pledge and a soldier in a wheel chair nt
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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 12:41 AM
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11. 100% agreed. As suggested: Critical Thinking is not a strong suite. n/t
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lunasun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 12:50 AM
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13. also by the way-the muslim thing is once a year event it is like a parade in NYC
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WhaTHellsgoingonhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 01:03 AM
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14. Who sent the memo to the uncles today?
My wack-a-doodle uncle (by marriage!) sent me a really disturbing email today called "What Patton Would Have Said," a right-wingnut response to Obama addressing the troops in Afghanistan today. I'll spare you the graphic pictures. Here's the text.

Prolly the funniest thing about it is that it's written in several fonts that range from 20pt to 40pt, varying in color--black, red, navy, green--and ALL CAPS!!!!

To ALL those whining, panty-waisted, pathetic Citizens, it's time for a little refresher course on exactly why we Americans occasionally have to fight wars to keep this nation great.

See if you can tear yourself away from your"reality" TV and Starbucks for a minute, pull your head out of your ass -- and LISTEN UP!!

Abu Ghraib is not "torture" or an "atrocity."
Got that ?



It takes a turn for the worst before recovering with this exit. "NOW GET OFF YOUR SORRY ASS
and pass this on to any and every person you give a damn about - if you ever gave a damn about anything! DISMISSED!

Do you have enough guts to forward this email? I did."

:rofl: :rofl:


My Reply:

There's something about bipolar disorder that appeals to the average schmoe. People find us quite intoxicating.

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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 02:32 AM
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15. Ahhh! what is it about the crazy fonts and colors?
This one had the same thing.

Do you think they are like Chinese Fortune Cookies, made in a factory somewhere and sent out en masse?



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WhaTHellsgoingonhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 04:01 PM
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16. No, not Chinese fortune cookies...
Randian
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WhaTHellsgoingonhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 06:07 PM
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19. Uncle Crazy didn't appreciate my retort LMAO!!!
Here's his comeback.

just how much time did you spend in the military!!huh sure is easy to second guess aint it!!! I would do it again if it meant that my kids and grandkids would be able to have the life they have today with no fucking thanks to everyone that has so called better solutions to the problems!!!!! fuck all these rag heads,gooks,mexicas and everyone who wants to take advantage of this country without putting in some effort to obtain what we have today!!!! that means everyone with no exceptions!!!! kabish???


My reply:


EPIC FAIL

Wake up, man! You're not fighting for something as noble as "We the people" any longer. You're fighting for the preservation of the multi-national, corporate plutocracy, operative words being *multi-national* and *corporate* and *plutocracy*. That has nothing to do with our once great country.

I'm fighting to restore it to "We the people."



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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 06:12 PM
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20. He is trying to keep the MEXICA out? WOW!
I get it, a human sacrifice here and there to Huitziloposhtli is kind of horrifying, and Tezosomoc is really demanding... Ixcalopa demands the flayed skin of those sacrificed to keep the era of the Fifth Sun going!

Speaking about not knowing history...

And you are right... EPIC FAIL!
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NuclearDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 04:08 PM
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17. BECAUSE CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL
AND EVERYONE KNOWS IF YOU JUST SHOUT LOUD ENOUGH EVENTUALLY THE OTHER PERSON WILL JUST STOP TALKING.

GOT THAT?!?!?!?!
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WhaTHellsgoingonhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 04:54 PM
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18. THE OTHER PERSON WILL JUST STOP TALKING
So true!

This happens every time Ed Schultz or Chris Matthews have a liberal and Republican guest on. The Republicans M.O.: don't stop talking, ever. Shout, talk over, interrupt, monopolize the discussion.

Don't know how this escapes Mr. "Hardball."
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