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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 07:37 AM
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From Jim Crow to Eat Crow: 'No one is above the law' - Holder, Biden and Theodore Roosevelt.
Edited on Sat Dec-04-10 07:57 AM by denem
In order of chronology:

April 22, 2009
Attorney General Eric Holder said Wednesday that he would "follow the law" as he weighed potential prosecutions of Bush administration officials who authorized controversial harsh interrogation techniques...

"We are going to follow the evidence, follow the law and take that where it leads. No one is above the law"
http://articles.cnn.com/2009-04-22/politics/torture.prosecution_1_interrogation-earth-day-prosecutions?_s=PM:POLITICS

September 2, 2008
This week an ordinary citizen asked Joe Biden if the Obama Administration would "pursue violations that have been made against our Constitution by the present administration." His answer? Yes...

Looking to the future but with one eye on the past, Biden also promised that an Obama-Biden government would go through Bush administration data with "a fine-toothed comb" and pursue criminal charges if necessary...

"If there has been a basis on which you could pursue someone for a criminal violation, they will be pursued. Not out of vengeance, not out of retribution. Out of the need to preserve the notion that no one, no one, no attorney general, no president, no one is above the law.
http://www.tressugar.com/Joe-Biden-Says-Obama-Administration-Would-Pursue-Bush-Crimes-1918715?page=0,4
http://warisacrime.org/node/35826

December 7, 1903
No man is above the law and no man is below it; nor do we ask any man's permission when we require him to obey it. Obedience to the law is demanded as a right; not asked as a favor.
Theodore Roosevelt, State of the Union Address.

One man, the Republican was true to his word. The Democrats have progressed from the party of Jim Crow to Eat Crow.

If you like plain talk, you can hear Joe Biden's hogwash here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13HbMfKTXr4
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 07:53 AM
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1. My recommend was countered. The one man true to his word
was a progressive.


That is why I'm never going to just assume a Democrat today is progressive anymore. I'll need to know.
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 07:59 AM
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3. He was a Republican President - what are you talking about.
The Republican/Progressive slit took place in 1912
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 08:02 AM
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4. And what else did he run as?
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 08:05 AM
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5. 1900 Republican VP, 1904 Republican President.
He said those words as a Republican President, and kept them as a Republican President..

This is basic civics. Progressives left the Republican Party AFTER 1912
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 08:10 AM
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6. Another basic civics lesson (or history). He left after frustration with that party and ran as a
Progressive.
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 08:13 AM
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7. He said it as a Republican; He kept his word as a Republican.
Edited on Sat Dec-04-10 08:20 AM by denem
By 1908, no one could fault him applying the law without fear or favor. If you are saying the Republican party of 1913 was not the same as 1901 well ... duh. In 1916 he campaigned for Charles Hughes, the Republican candidate for President up against Wilson.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 08:23 AM
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9. Irregardless, he was progressive.
The label doesn't matter. Which is my point. I'm progressive and a Democrat. I put my emphasis on progressive.
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 08:34 AM
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10. And my point is there was a time when the Republicans were progressive.
t was not until the 1920 that the Taft/Coolidge laissez-faire policies triumphed.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 08:46 AM
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11. And Roosevelt feared a shadow government out of it.
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 09:02 AM
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12. And he was absolutely right. Perhaps the biggest difference
is that today the 'shadows' don't even bother hiding. They strut their stuff shamelessly in front on the MSM brass bands.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 09:05 AM
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14. You've got that right.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 07:58 AM
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2. recommend
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 08:19 AM
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8. Unless you're gettting anthrax in the mail...eom
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 04:24 PM
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