New facts about Assange's accusers. They beggar belief.

[snagglepuss]

Source: Heald Sun Australia

May these two spots of scum roast in hell.

snip

Both women boasted of their of their respective celebrity conquests on internet posts and mobile phones texts after the intimacy they would now see him destroyed for.

Ardin hosted a party in Assange’s honour at her flat after the ‘crime’ and tweeted to her followers that she was with the “the world's coolest smartest people, it's amazing!”

Ardin has sought unsuccessfully to delete these and thereby destroy evidence of Assange’s innocence She has published on the internet a guide on how to get revenge on cheating boyfriends.

Their sms texts to each other show a plan to contact the Swedish newspaper Expressen before hand in order to maximise the damage to Assange....




http://www.heraldsun.com.au/opinion/swedens-reputation-is-on-trial-in-julian-assange-case/story-e6frfhqf-1225965772832

[Odin2005]

1. CIA plant.

[laughingliberal]

2. +1 nt

[snagglepuss]

3. I've thought from the getgo but now I'm having second thoughts. Why would

plants send incriminating text messages?

[TheDebbieDee]

10. I thought Odin was calling you the CIA plant for posting

your original post.........

[snagglepuss]

16. Come again. How could anything in the OP lead anyone to conclude

I am a CIA plant? That is kind of hysterical.

[Odin2005]

25. No, I was calling the woman a CIA plant.

I believe the KGB tripped up a lot of folks with similar tactics.

[TheDebbieDee]

28. Thanks for clearing that up, Odin.

[Jackpine Radical]

77. Because they're stupid narcissists.

Wouldn't be the first idiots recruited by the CIA.

[tiny elvis]

88. because life is not like the movies nt

[EFerrari]

4. I tend to think so. Or one of the alphabet agencies.

She did a stint in DC in the Swedish Foreign Service.

[jimlup]

5. Wouldn't a CIA plant have been more careful?

I'm thinking opportunists who have been paid off for their loyalties after the fact.

[EFerrari]

7. CIA wasn't careful enough to prevent Abu Graib leaks.

The Ardin woman trips my triggers. Who knows about the other one.

[jimlup]

11. Yeah, apparently they couldn't afford a real agent so

they had to hire some hussy who couldn't keep her mouth shut. Either way, it's funny! :rofl:

[TheMadMonk]

14. You'd think so. However, history show that these people have...

...an incredible childlike naievete in their forward planning.

In this case, however I do think it's just a couple of power groupies pissed off at him and looking for a bit of attention by piggybacking on the Wikilleaks furore. At least to begin with. Now, I suspect some words have been whispered in their shell like ears, suggesting it would NOT be a good idea to let this thing go.

[EFerrari]

17. The lead power groupie was kicked out of Cuba

for working with a State Department front group there. Maybe I just don't believe in accidents enough. :evilgrin:

[Ghost Dog]

58. Uh huh. That's Ardin, then, on secondment from Swedish Foreign Ministry?

[EFerrari]

64. Yep. n/t

[snagglepuss]

72. The high level connections appear to go further. Some jaw-dropping

coincidental tidbits, I just came across:


1. The original prosecutor in charge, Eva Finné, dropped the charges the same week they were made and stated they were groundless.

3. Eva Finné was removed from the case by Claes Borgström and a new prosecutor, Marianne Ny, was appointed. Her first act was to reinstate the charges.

4. Claes Borgström is a former politician. His law partner is Thomas Bodström. Thomas Bodström is Sweden’s former Minister of Justice.

5. Thomas Bodström is currently in the USA. One could assume he is communicating and coordinating things with his partner back in Sweden.

6. It is Swedish protocol not to release the names of people accused of rape until after a conviction. The Swedish prosecutors office claims they have “no idea” how Assange’s name was leaked.

7. Normally Swedish media will not publish an accused’s name until after a conviction. Swedish media is controlled by a single ruling class family named Bonnier who work closely with local politicians to protect their media monopoly.

8. Claes Borgström’s two sisters, Annette Kullenberg and Kerstin Vinterhed, both work for Bonnier family newspapers.

9. Anna Ardin and Thomas Bodström are high ranking members of the right wing Christian political organization “Socialdemokrat-Brödraskapet”.

10. Claes Borgström is a right wing politician whose push for larger big brother powers for the Swedish state were leaked by Wikileaks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Bodstr%C3%B6m

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claes_Borgstr%C3%B6m

http://www.aklagare.se/Media/Nyheter/Assange-arendet-fragor-och-svar/

(In Swedish – the Swedish justice department says they did not release Assange’s name and try to explain why Eva Finné was removed)

http://henrikalexandersson.blogspot.com/2010/08/assange-affaren-far-en-inrikespolitisk.html

(In Swedish – a Swedish blogger traces the reasons for Ardin, Borgström, and Bodström’s apparent vendetta against Wikileaks and Assange)


List posted by Buster at
http://www.amconmag.com/blog/2010/12/02/call-interpol-a-condom-broke-wikileaks-farce/

[Honeycombe8]

6. You don't know the facts. Not nice to call either side names, until the facts are known.

Of course, it's hard to get facts, when someone goes on the lam and won't answer questions.

[EFerrari]

9. Um, Assange isn't on the lam. And as his lawyer has said

they've offered to be interviewed so there is no need for a warrant.

On the other hand, at least one of these ladies tried to destroy her tracks after the event. That was interesting.

[Honeycombe8]

21. What his lawyer says, then, is different from the Swedish govt.

You know how that goes. Maybe his lawyer made a technical offer to be interviewed, but put such restrictions on the questions, who could interview him, or whatever, that it was not really an interview. We don't know the facts on that.

That's all I'm saying. Just because you like a guy, doesn't mean you should blindly support him, until a full investigation has been done. Why are you so ready to believe negative reports on the women who reported the assaults? At least they've been interviewed by authorities, presumably under conditions set by the authorities, and usually when filing allegations of rape, a person signs a sworn oath of the allegations. So there's at least something there, factually, to take into account.

There is nothing about the incidents, factually, coming from the accused.

You KNOW if he offered to be interviewed by the Swedish authorities about the assaults, they would've jumped at it.

It's like those mothers who continue believing their sons are innocent, even after they've been convicted, despite evidence to the contrary. Or the women who marry convicted murderers in prison...they just believe in their hearts that the person they love couldn't possibly have done such a terrible thing. A woman married Ted Bundy, when he was in prison for serial murder, refusing to believe that he did those murders....and she strongly felt that way...up until he confessed. It's mind boggling. How much you like/love someone has nothing to do with the facts of an incident.

[EFerrari]

32. There's so much wrong in that post, I don't even know where to begin.

Assange is not on the lam. The Swedish government can contact him through his attorneys in Sweden.

He is not being sought on a rape charge but as a witness to a misdemeanor conduct charge.

His lawyer has made statements on the record to the media and I have posted them here. You might check Amy Goodman's site, that was the latest one on Thursday or Friday, iirc.

And you seem to have far fewer facts in hand than I do, so if there is a comparison to Ted Bundy's mother here, it's not to me. :)

[Bluerthanblue]

74. he offered to be interviewed via video link- but refused to return to

Sweden "at his own expense" and because he feared a "media circus" according to his British lawyer.

According to Interpol, he is wanted for questioning related to sexual offenses.
http://www.interpol.int/public/Data/Wanted/Notices/Data/2010/86/2010_52486.asp
http://www.interpol.int/Public/ICPO/PressReleases/PR2010/PR101.asp

The charges of "rape" were dropped way back at the begining of this. The way some media outlets keep refering to the charges as "rape" is wrong, and unfair. He is still wanted for questioning for his part in what Sweden believes to be criminal activities involving two Swedish women. To put any other spin on that fact is also wrong and unfair.

[truedelphi]

84. Thanks for your post in support of Assange. n/t

[northernlights]

65. there are no rape allegations and the women themselves admit the sex was consensual

They want to question Assange about sex without a condom.

In the first case, the condom broke. She says he knew it broke. He says he did not know it broke. She wasn't going to even file a complaint until she met the 2nd woman and found out he'd slept with the 2nd one a couple days later.

The 2nd one knew full well there was no condom. She didn't care, either....until she met up with woman #1 a couple days later. Suddenly the 2 of them discovered he was a cad and they went to the police about it.

What an effing joke.

And yet you keep trying to push this off as a rape? He failed to perform coitus interruptus. That is the closest thing they have to an allegation and a charge. And it's strictly she said-he said. How do you prove he "knew the condom broke?" You can't prove it.

A couple of groupie sluts threw themselves at him, and he took what they offered.

Kind of reminds me of another groupie slut we all used to know and love, who threw herself at a former President, who took what she offered. The difference being, of course, that the President was married and sitting in the Oval Office. Whereas Assange is single and has not marital constraints on his sex life.

[tomp]

66. incredibly ironic that you would place your faith in "the authorities"...

...after the release of of the wikileaks documents.

that buzz was the sound of the relevance of reality zooming past you.

[Celtic Raven]

71. Favorite line of the morning

:rofl:

" that buzz was the sound of the relevance of reality zooming past you. "

:toast:

[snagglepuss]

78. ROFL "that buzz was the sound of the relevance of reality zooming past you. "

:rofl:

[Bluerthanblue]

22. I wouldn't be so quick to jump to judgement- your facts are based on

what Mr. Assange's lawyer has said. Hardly an unbiased or impartial source.

It isn't very fair to ask people to not assume that Julian Assange is guilty of anything, while you are judging these women based on hearsay and the opinions of others.

The truth is known right now only to the individuals actually involved, which doesn't include you or me. Does it?

[EFerrari]

33. I know the Swedish government has crap for a case.

Actually, we both know that because the whole thing was thrown out once.

[Bluerthanblue]

46. no, I don't know that, and while you can claim to "know" it you don't-

I don't know that Julian is guilty of having violated Swedish law in his interactions with either of the two women in question.
To judge him guilty would be WRONG. It is equally WRONG to claim to "know" that the women made these claims maliciously or as 'plants' or operatives of evil governments.

What the f--k has happened to everyone? We are turning into a bunch of hatefilled "you agree with me or you are my enemy" idiots!

:shrug:

[EFerrari]

48. Yes, I do know that this whole thing was thrown out

by the prosecutor once. That's a fact and it has nothing to do with how I feel or don't feel, thanks.

As to these women, Ardin is very suspicious and that I suspect her motives is my privilege. The other woman, I know nothing about except that she's a young photographer. None of that is hateful or idiotic.

[Bluerthanblue]

54. the initial charges were dropped- but the case was not closed.

Your 'knowing that' doesn't prove that the entire case is bogus.

You have the right to be suspicious of anyone you like, but again, that is your opinion- it isn't a fact.

"May these two spots of scum rot in hell" that kind of talk and pre-judgment is hateful and idiotic in my view. I would have thought it would be in yours, I'm guilty of assuming you would share that perspective, and for that I apologize.

[snagglepuss]

45. Assange is guilty of completing sexual intercourse without a condom -

something that is only a crime in Sweden, actually is not even yet a crime in Sweden however is there was a trial prosecutors could broaden the law to include condomless sex under rape and Assnge then be found guilty. The initial charge was dropped for lack of evidence, but lo and behold when the announcement is made that Wikileaks will be releasing bank data the worldwide attack on Assange went into high gear.


The following two blogs are doing a better job delivering the facts of the case than MSM.

http://radsoft.net/news/20101202,00.shtml


http://www.inmalafide.com/tag/sofia-wilen/

[Bluerthanblue]

50. sorry, hardly impartial sources- try this one,

http://assangemolestation.tumblr.com/

Perhaps little less prejudiced towards either side but it's hard to say.

[EFerrari]

51. You wonder if a site called "assangemolestation" is biased?

Seriously?

[Bluerthanblue]

52. did you bother to read it?

What is the 'charge' being pursued against Mr. Assange?

Yes, I'm serious as hell.

[EFerrari]

82. I would no more go to that link than the link socialistObama.com

or hillarykillsfoster.com

[tomp]

67. guilty? you mean accused, right? nt

[snagglepuss]

73. Assange has stated that the condom broke accidentally. Both women

have stated that sex was consenual and no force was used. Assange is being accused of 'sex by surprise', a legal expression only found in Sweden.

[tomp]

83. yeah, i get that. but you say "guilty of"..he has not been tried, right?

he is only accused of said crime at this time, not guilty of it, right?

[sabrina 1]

56. Do you know anything about the woman who initiated the

case? Are you aware of any of the facts surrounding her history, her political connections, the rightwing tabloid who got a story that wasn't a story from someone even though it was against the law for the police or the prosecutors to speak about the case? So, who contacted the rightwing tabloid before there was a story, who then made it a story?

This woman is well known in Sweden and she herself initially said there was no rape.

The charges are based on him 'not using a condom'. Do you think that not using a condom constitutes rape? Or not replacing one that burst?

She tried to erase her online trail after the story broke and escalated from being a case thrown out because there was nothing to base it on, according to the lead prosecutor. Fortunately some of that trail was preserved.

Assange has always been available through his lawyers. His lawyers have never been contacted. All of which is NOT the way these things are normally handled.

Are you also aware that there is a CIA memo, which was released by Wikileaks months before this all happened, wherein agents discussed what to do about Assange, including smearing him to destroy his credibility?

This stinks and it has from day one. And few people around the globe view it as anything but a smear job to try to silence someone who has done nothing wrong, but will not be told to withhold news the way the MSM does. Iow, they cannot control him the way they control our disgraceful media and they are angry, and acting out of anger. Let them state their case, file real charges if there are any. Otherwise people have the right to dismiss all of it as nothing but a tactic to silence him.

[Bluerthanblue]

57. I find it more than a little ironic that Mr. Assange is disturbed that

facts about the allegations of the case were 'leaked' to the public. I understand that is against Swedish law, but if a US citizen leaked classified documents to Mr. Assange, and he participated in publishing them who is he to complain?

I'm not going to pass judgment on Assange OR the women involved. I don't have access to all the facts, and neither does anyone else at this point. I'm choosing to reserve judgment, and not assume anything. It's very possible the charges could be shown to be without merit, and there are legal methods that can address that- it is also possible that the accusations are true, if so there are legal penalties to address that.

There's an awful lot of mis-information and gossip being passed around about this issue on both sides. I'm not foolish enough to claim that I "know" what the truth is. I don't believe any of us can honestly do that at this point.

[sabrina 1]

62. I don't think he is disturbed about leaking. He is disturbed about

a deliberate smear campaign, USING illegal leaks as a means of doing it. That's a lot different to leaking government documents as a publisher, against which there is no law.

We actually do know that there is nothing to this, as the lead prosecutor having seen the 'evidence' announced months ago. Why the case came back, still with no evidence other than the words of two women, both of whom already said there was no rape and they were 'only seeking advice' when they spoke to the police. 'No case', said the lead prosecutor. Why would she say that? And why would they flip flop again? You may do as you wish, I know enough to decide that this case is BS and if he were not who he is it never would have happened.

Anyone who doubts that the U.S. might put pressure on a foreign government to do something beneficial to them, only has to read Wikileaks to see how pressure was put on Spain, eg, not to prosecute torturers, and the judge in that case, a courageous, well-respected judge, was smeared also.

Same pattern. Demand governments do what we want, smear the individual who they view as a threat to their dark little secrets remaining secrets.

I don't believe a word of it and have a feeling we will find out exactly how this happened.

[snagglepuss]

76. Check out some of the 'coincidental' facts such as the family who controls

the Swedish media and background of some of the other players.


1. The original prosecutor in charge, Eva Finné, dropped the charges the same week they were made and stated they were groundless.

3. Eva Finné was removed from the case by Claes Borgström and a new prosecutor, Marianne Ny, was appointed. Her first act was to reinstate the charges.

4. Claes Borgström is a former politician. His law partner is Thomas Bodström. Thomas Bodström is Sweden’s former Minister of Justice.

5. Thomas Bodström is currently in the USA. One could assume he is communicating and coordinating things with his partner back in Sweden.

6. It is Swedish protocol not to release the names of people accused of rape until after a conviction. The Swedish prosecutors office claims they have “no idea” how Assange’s name was leaked.

7. Normally Swedish media will not publish an accused’s name until after a conviction. Swedish media is controlled by a single ruling class family named Bonnier who work closely with local politicians to protect their media monopoly.

8. Claes Borgström’s two sisters, Annette Kullenberg and Kerstin Vinterhed, both work for Bonnier family newspapers.

9. Anna Ardin and Thomas Bodström are high ranking members of the right wing Christian political organization “Socialdemokrat-Brödraskapet”.

10. Claes Borgström is a right wing politician whose push for larger big brother powers for the Swedish state were leaked by Wikileaks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Bodstr%C3%B6m

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claes_Borgstr%C3%B6m

http://www.aklagare.se/Media/Nyheter/Assange-arendet-fr... /

(In Swedish – the Swedish justice department says they did not release Assange’s name and try to explain why Eva Finné was removed)

http://henrikalexandersson.blogspot.com/2010/08/assange...

(In Swedish – a Swedish blogger traces the reasons for Ardin, Borgström, and Bodström’s apparent vendetta against Wikileaks and Assange)


List posted by Buster at
http://www.amconmag.com/blog/2010/12/02/call-interpol-a... /

[sabrina 1]

86. That post should be an OP.

Thank you. The whole still stinks and there is no doubt in my mind that this is nothing but an attempt to silence Wikileaks. I had read quite a bit about Anna Ardin so was aware of her political connections and history. But I did not know about the family who controls the media in Sweden. That answers a lot of questions though.

[gateley]

87. I did not know this:

Are you also aware that there is a CIA memo, which was released by Wikileaks months before this all happened, wherein agents discussed what to do about Assange, including smearing him to destroy his credibility?


Sounds just like the Agency, doesn't it? What a smarmy operation that is.

[sabrina 1]

89. Yes, it does sound like them. Dishonest, cowardly

liars with no principles whatsoever. Wikileaks published the document in anticipation of what would happen. They should republish it now.

[Honeycombe8]

23. Yes, he's on the lam. You may not want to believe it.

But it's true.

When you go into hiding after authorities have named you a person of interest in a felony crime and stated they want to interview you for it....that is "on the lam" in my book.

No authorities know where he is.

I hope the authorities are able to fully investigate the incidents. If Assange has nothing to hide, then he'll be cleared, and can go on with his business and get this behind him. He apparently can afford a Dream Team of lawyers.

[EFerrari]

34. Again, you don't have the facts in hand. There is no felony charge here.

The prosecutor in Sweden has access to Assange's attorney and has been aware of his location.

On the other hand, jackasses have been calling for his assassination, so yes, he is keeping a low profile. He is not a fugitive. That is wrong.

[snagglepuss]

55. Do facts mean nothing to you? Authorities know where he is. There is no arrest warrant,

Do you apply the same 'logic' to the victims of US renditions?

[WorseBeforeBetter]

18. If you were raped, would one of your first instincts be to post to freakin' Twitter...

about AmazingSmartCoolPeople?

[Honeycombe8]

24. That is not a fact associated with a felony crime.

Remember that mother in Australia who was convicted of killing her baby? Meryl Streep played her in a movie based on the events. Anyway, there was no evidence that she'd killed her baby. She was basically convicted because her actions were deemed guilty-like and not approved of by the jurors and community.

Years later, she was cleared and set free.

A person's behavior after an alleged crime is something to consider in an investigation. But that has nothing to do with the facts of whether a crime occurred or not.

BTW, not judging a person's actions post-crime works for both the alleged victims and the alleged criminal.

BUT...a full investigation needs to occur first to determine IF two rapes occurred in the first place.

(As an aside...unlike other actions, it is legal for a Court to consider and instruct a jury that running from authorities after a person is alleged to have committed a crime can be considered as evidence of guilt.)

[EFerrari]

39. There is no felony charge and he is not a fugitive. n/t

[Violet_Crumble]

42. Sorry, but yr wrong...

The woman played by Meryl Streep was Lindy Chamberlain, and it wasn't as simple as what you claim. At the time there was enough evidence to convict her, and years later with the introduction of DNA testing, they discovered the evidence they'd used to convict her showed she didn't murder her baby and the conviction was overturned. If she was being judged on her behaviour, she'd still be sitting there in prison in Darwin to this day...

Assange's behaviour's got zero to do with anything when it comes to any trumped up charge being flung around. As a woman I view those two creatures who've flung false accusations of rape at him to be a disgrace to all women who have been victims of sexual abuse....

btw, I kind of doubt you've got any more knowledge of Australian law than you do of Swedish law, which seems to be very little...

[arikara]

80. Nobody ever said rapes occurred

except some people who are busy embellishing facts.

[snagglepuss]

20. We know the facts. You don't know the fats. You are apparently ignorant

of the glaring fact that "before leaving Sweden Assange asked to be interviewed by prosecutors.

“Eventually the prosecution told his Swedish lawyer, Björn Hurtig, that he was free to leave the country, without interview, which he did.”"

snip

He has since "repeatedly offered to meet Swedish investigators either at the Swedish embassy in London or at a police station in the UK.

A warrant for his arrest was first issued in August, but it was dropped within 24 hours when prosecutors said the accusations against him lacked substance. The case was then reopened.

snip

Stephens said: “Both women have declared that they had consensual sexual relations with our client and that they continued to instigate friendly contact well after the alleged incidents. Only after the women became aware of each other’s relationships with Mr Assange did they make their allegations against him.


http://www.scotnetwork.com/technology/sweden-to-issue-arrest-warrant-for-julian-assange

[Honeycombe8]

27. It's juvenile to call names. Anyway, here are the facts: Sweden DID interview him on 8/30...

After that interview, Assange went on the lam, and Swedish prosecutors filed court documents to extradite him.

That is the current state of affairs. It was an MSNBC article I found...it said that Great Britain is the country that is haggling with Sweden over extradition.

Apparently the first interview did not go well for Assange.

[EFerrari]

41. No, Assange left Sweden WITH permission.

And the warrant filed so far is not for extradition but to be aware of his movements.

[struggle4progress]

8. Shake some salt: "James D. Catlin is a Melbourne barrister .. for Assange"

[EFerrari]

12. Very good. n/t

[provis99]

13. political correctness runs amok in Sweden.

Woman is always right, man is always a rapist, women never lie, etc.

[EFerrari]

15. It's more likely that the State Department advised them

to keep this going until Assange's character is destroyed, something that is not going to happen. And they are probably also looking for a charge that can be lodged against him here. But they don't want to draw that fire, so they pressure Sweden to look ridiculous instead.

[Odin2005]

26. Rape has nothing to do with it, that's the MSM spin and an insult to actual rape survivors.

I'm not exactly sure what the exact supposed crime is, but it has something to do with not using a condom or some similar crap.

[Bluerthanblue]

36. maybe , maybe not.

read this-

http://thecurvature.com/2010/01/14/swedish-court-decides-sexual-assault-is-not-a-crime/

I think that we'd ALL do well to with hold judgment either way until all the facts are known.

This OP is no less offensive than those who call Mr. Assange a rapist. It's just plain wrong and unfair.

Mr.Assange doesn't want to be tried in the court of public opinion and he shouldn't be. But neither should these women, who are ALSO the victims of some pretty ugly smears even here on DU, with very little real supporting evidence and a fair amount of misplaced anger and suspicion.

[Canuckistanian]

43. Do you know this from experience?

Have you spent a long time in Sweden or know somebody there?

I'm not doubting you, but how do you know?

[snagglepuss]

49. The following facts about broadening legal def of rape in in Sweden is eyeopening.

snip

But Claes Borgström knew better. He and his friend and colleague Marianne Ny had been working on expanding the legal concept of rape in Sweden. They were interested in two sweeping changes to current legislation, whereof the most important one is that people themselves no longer decide when they've been raped - their governments do.

The other second change is relatively unimportant - but perhaps more shattering worldwide: almost anything can be considered rape - even and especially nonviolent and consensual acts.

Consensual sex can be rape, according to Borgström and Ny - but the alleged victims don't decide - they do.

The new laws which establish these 'precedents' are not yet on the books - but it's Marianne Ny's intention to make the Assange affair into a test case for that purpose.

In other words: Marianne Ny wants to try Julian Assange for a something that wasn't a crime when it took place.



http://radsoft.net/news/20101202,00.shtml

[krabigirl]

59. Scary.

[glinda]

19. The key question I think is who is the other woman. Are they keeping her out of the media?

[EFerrari]

30. The other woman is a photographer who worked the dates Ardin

arranged in Sweden.

[glinda]

35. What do you mean dates? Like days or dating? What is her name?

[bemildred]

37. Political events. nt

[EFerrari]

38. The event that Ardin booked Assange into.

I don't know her name. Maybe some media spread would have some of her photographs and so, her name attached. It doesn't appear she wants her name out there and I have not tried to find it.

[snagglepuss]

53. The other woman is Sofia Wilen. Photo and further details at

http://www.inmalafide.com/tag/sofia-wilen/

[csziggy]

29. K&R

[Catherina]

31. Don't forget "Woman A, who works for the Christian branch of the party"

Rec'd

Woman A, who works for the Christian branch of the party, was the main organiser but they had never met before.

...

Whatever her views about the incident, she appeared relaxed and untroubled at the seminar the next day where Assange met Woman B, another pretty blonde, also in her 20s, but younger than Woman A.

In her police statement, Woman B described how, in the wake of the Afghanistan leaks, she saw Assange being interviewed on television and became instantly fascinated - some might even say obsessed.

She said she thought him ‘interesting, brave and admirable’.

Over the following two weeks she read everything she could find about him on the internet and followed news reports about his activities.

She discovered that he would be visiting Sweden to give a seminar, so she emailed the organisers to offer her help.
She registered to attend and booked the Saturday off work.

She appears to have dressed to catch his eye, in a shocking-pink cashmere jumper. But, she says, among the grey-suited journalists who filled the room, she felt uncomfortably out of place.

...

‘She was a little bit strange,’ he said. ‘Definitely an odd character and keen to get Julian’s attention.’

...

Read http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1307137/Supporters-dismissed-rape-accusations-WikiLeaks-founder-Julian-Assange--women-involved-tell-different-story.html

[snagglepuss]

75. Ardin works for “Socialdemokrat-Brödraskapet” which a RIGHTWING Christian party.

[Canuckistanian]

40. I'm having trouble with their motivation

Assuming they're on the level, WHY would they do it?

And second question, WHY would Swedish authorities be so adamant in prosecuting this? Now they've called in Interpol.

Has this EVER been done before in European law enforcement?

[EFerrari]

44. The Swedish prosecutor threw it out once

and she was overruled by a higher up. A lot of attention for a misdemeanor conduct charge.

[snagglepuss]

47. The motivation could be revenge. Ardin wrote a 'seven step plan for revenge'

and she could simply be following her own warped advice.



snip


Anna Ardin and Sofia Wilén approached the Klara police station in Stockholm on the afternoon of Friday 20 August 2010 to ask questions of the police, purportedly about forcing someone to submit to STD/HIV tests.

The policemen on duty rang up prosecutor on duty Maria Kjellstrand even before the formal interrogation had begun. Kjellstrand - working with no paperwork at all at this point - issued an 'APB' for Assange and had the police search the Stureplan district of Stockholm for Assange, ostensibly to bring him in for questioning (and a tour of Swedish isolation cells).

The formal interrogation of Sofia Wilén was only concluded hours later and the interrogation of Anna Ardin didn't take place until the day after - by telephone.

As seen from Anna Ardin's SMS history, Anna Ardin and Sofia Wilén made the whole thing up - and even decided to leak the story to notorious Swedish tabloid Expressen. The story reached Niklas Svensson and others at Expressen at 19:52.




http://radsoft.net/news/20101202,00.shtml

[backscatter712]

61. Could be like a lot of false-rape-accusation case - the accusers were just fucking crazy.

Sort of like the Kobe Bryant case - the woman making the accusations was just completely nuts.

[backscatter712]

60. K&R, so all the authoritarian twits on DU can read this.

They keep bringing up that "rape" thing, but this shows that the entire incident came from nothing more than not using a condom, and is from a couple of women crying "RAPE!" just to fuck him over.

And the governments have latched onto it to try to discredit Assange just like the Bushies tried to brand Scott Ritter as a pedophile for telling the world that Iraq didn't have WMDs.

[HEyHEY]

63. I hope Assange goes for criminal conspiracy charges if this is all true.

[AngryAmish]

68. Nuts and sluts defense

An oldie but a goody.

[Swede]

69. So smearing these women is okay,but don't do it to poor Julian?

Let's wait for a trial.

[EFerrari]

79. I'd be surprised if this went to trial. And the smear on Assange started

the moment his name was released in Sweden, to take focus off of the releases.

[WildEyedLiberal]

81. Yep

Amazing how "progressive" the attitudes about alleged rape are when a DU hero is in the crosshairs. I've found all of these threads absolutely vile.

[krabigirl]

85. They smeared themselves.

[backscatter712]

91. +1000 n/t

[malaise]

70. From the BBC this morning-Julian Assange to fight Swedish allegations

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11921080
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He said it was only "after the intervention of a Swedish politician" that a new prosecutor in Gothenburg - not Stockholm, where his client and two women had been - began a new case.

It resulted in the current warrants, and an Interpol notice being issued. His client denies the allegations.

Mr Stephens said: "It does seem to be a political stunt.
Continue reading the main story
Julian Assange

"A warrant was issued on Thursday by reports. We've asked for it. We've been ignored at this point."

He said he and his Swedish legal adviser had been trying to contact prosecutors since August and his client had tried to meet prosecutors to "restore his good name".
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It's all BS

[jobycom]

90. Seems more complicated than his lawyer wants to admit.

It's hard getting unbiased info on what the Swedes are claiming, but the gist seems to be along these lines:

Assange had sex with one woman, and afterwards claimed the condom broke. The woman thought he sabotaged it deliberately, but he swore he didn't. They later went to a party, where they both met the second woman. Assange went out with her and had sex, without a condom, even though the woman told him to wear one. I haven't seen a good explanation of what that means yet--whether he said we was wearing one and didn't, or whether it broke, or whether both agreed not to use a condom.

After this encounter, Assange reportedly was supposed to contact the woman, and didn't, and ignored her calls. The woman got upset and called the first girlfriend (whom she met at the same party where she met Assange). At that party, a couple of days later, the women compared notes and discovered that Assange had not used a condom with either, and after this they contacted the police for an "inquiry," and later to bring charges. Sometime in there were the alleged "boasts" about their "conquests," though without context it's hard to know whether they were boasting or complaining, and whether that was before or after they compared condom notes.

So it could be that these two just decided to make a name for themselves or get rich or try to get some money by trumping up a charge against a celebrity--it should be noted that every celebrity who has ever been accused of rape comes up with that defense (and sometimes it's true)--or it could be that they didn't decided after comparing notes that they had been lied to by Assange about the condoms. If he used the line on the second one that the condom broke, then that would mean they didn't realize it was a pattern until they compared notes.

I don't know. I'm always disgusted by the "crazy woman wanted it" defense, and the article in the OP is that defense. It's also heavy on ridicule and light on details, which always makes me wonder what the omitted details would say. But obviously at this moment there is much reason to doubt any charges against Assange. I guess we'll have to wait to see if more details come out, and what they claim, or if the details are out there, to find the right story. Both sides are manipulating the details.