Julian Assange isn't charged with rape, but with "Sex by Surprise"

[DetlefK]

http://www.aolnews.com/world/article/sex-by-surprise-at-heart-of-julian-assange-criminal-probe/19741444
or
http://slatest.slate.com/id/2276690/

"Sex by Surprise" means having sex without a condom. It's a crime in Sweden only, punishable by a fine.
Julian Assange had sex with a broken condom and without a condom. When the women found out, they demanded a STD-test. He refused. They went to the police.

His behavior was wrong, but calling this rape, is totally overblown.

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[sakabatou]

2. If it's just a fine....

why keep saying it's rape? Why the need for rendition?

[Octafish]

5. Rendition is its own reward.

No matter where in the world, CIA ignores the law. Even its own Constitution.

[phleshdef]

3. So its a $715 fine? We could raise that in about 2 minutes.

[Bluerthanblue]

10. and Mr.Assange could pay that easily, but he hasn't.

We aren't the judges and jury on this issue, and we shouldn't be-

That applies to all 'sides'.

I don't hold anyone guilty, nor can I say anyone is innocent. No one except the individuals involved can do that honestly.

I think that the OP's point that continuing to call the incident "rape" is being false and mis-leading is important point to be made.

It's too bad that can't stand on it's own merit.

[snagglepuss]

11. Not just a fine but a 2 year prison sentence.

[spanone]

4. today mitch mcconnell said that if what assange did wasn't illegal we can change the law

to make it illegal

[Cleita]

6. Oh yes. We seem to have no problem making laws

to suppress information and the general populace it seems, but can't find the way to extending unemployment benefits. McConnell is a putrid piece of work.

[gateley]

7. Yep, those R's are good at that. Change the Constitution too, while

you're at it, Mitch.

[gateley]

8. How can a woman not know if her partner is wearing a condom? But

more importantly, what happens to him if he returns to Sweden?

[Darth_Kitten]

9. sex by surprise?

I'm sorry, but... :rofl:

Come on....

[gateley]

13. Yeah - that one needs to be explained. nt

[ngant17]

14. flimsy legal argument at best

either there was consensual sex or there was not consensual sex. The (broken) condom issue would seem to implicate the female partner as much as the male, if it was indeed consensual. Why did the female agree to have sex without the condom? But if it was rape, why was it not immediately reported as such?

These charges are politically motivated, it's clear about that.

[gateley]

16. Agree. I'm glad most people aren't buying the story. nt

[Ian David]

12. Assange “rape” accuser has CIA ties

Assange “rape” accuser has CIA ties
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=9695430&mesg_id=9695430

[Odin2005]

15. What a dumb law.