Proof tattoos don't hold you back, only YOU hold you back

[jmowreader]

This is Kevin Fine:



He is also known as "Your Honor." He is a State District Court Judge in Houston, Texas, and he's the judge who, last spring, ruled the Texas death penalty unconstitutional.

[Schema Thing]

1. yikes! what happened to his arm?!

[jmowreader]

5. Many, many hours of careful craftsmanship happened to his arm

I think this is the first sleeved judge I've ever seen.

[Cirque du So-What]

9. Perhaps the member to whom you're replying

is referring to what appears to be an open sore - about the size of a dime - on his right wrist.

[Skittles]

12. it is ugly

[K8-EEE]

21. +1 I hate tattoos!!

Ugh!! Patiently waiting for this unfortunate fad to end. Permanent fashion is unwise.

[Leftist Agitator]

13. Stigmata.

[Schema Thing]

34. Well it *would* be his shifting arm.

er wait, Stig is a Brit. B-)

[Egnever]

2. and heres proof that picking boogers in public wont hold you back

[ck4829]

3. Wow, tattoos are the least of what could have been problems for him.

He's also a recovering alcoholic and has had a problem with cocaine at one point. Now he's clean, sober, and successful.

Proof that while the American Dream has taken some hits, it is definitely not down and out.

K&R.

[Hannah Bell]

10. check out his class background: college grad, attorney. that was simultaneous with his drug

use.

he's a middle to upper-middle class person who cleaned up is all.

he was already "successful" when he was a user. successful enough that his colleagues knowledge of his problem and apparent concern for him was enough to get him straight:


"He started drinking and smoking marijuana in his teens, he said, graduating to harder drugs in college and continuing to abuse alcohol and cocaine as a practicing attorney.

While working as a lawyer in Lubbock, a boss knocked on his door one day, told him that his co-workers knew he had a problem and said that he needed to get treatment....

He checked in at a treatment center, went through detox and six months of intense outpatient treatment, learning the tools he needed to stay away from drugs and alcohol.

In the years since, he said, he has cleaned up his life, serving on the board of the Texas Lawyers Assistance Program, a State Bar program that helps attorneys battling addiction and depression."

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/hotstories/6116339.html.


he now presides over a drug court.

[Caliman73]

4. I have a couple myself...

I don't think that they necessarily hold you back but it does depend on where they are and what they are. He has a sleeve on his right arm which is pretty extensive. Perhaps he has more on his body or another sleeve on his left. The thing is, that he can still conceal the tattoos and most likely did as he applied for internships and jobs. He doesn't have any gang affiliated tattoos, swastikas, or "fuck you" on his eyelids, face, knuckles, or neck. Tattoos don't necessarily hold you back, but they can.

[hlthe2b]

6. Well, his ruling is "beautiful," regardless of how one views his tattoos.

Brave man, that one.

[TexasObserver]

7. Proof that tattoos which can be judiciously covered won't hold you back.

Put one of those on his face, hands or neck and see what happens.

[Cid_B]

11. Agreed...

Bet we won't see this woman in court (behind the bench at least) anytime soon.



I just looked again.. is that beard stubble? Is this a guy?

[Twinguard]

24. That's a guy.

I remember seeing some tv show that had a segment on him (probably on the discovery channel). He seems to be a fairly happy guy who just wants to be a tiger. He works for a small circuit board company and he doesn't have any contact with the customers. At least that was his story a few years back when I saw that show.

[LynneSin]

31. that is a guy

just as an fyi

[Codeine]

16. "judiciously"

:rofl:

[cleanhippie]

22. +10000.

[Warren DeMontague]

8. I think it's time we grow the fuck up and realize that peoples' bodies are their own damn property.

To use, abuse, enjoy, destroy or decorate as they see fit.

I've never wanted a tattoo, but my head is attached to my body, not yours.

[a la izquierda]

42. Jesus, THANK YOU!

The same people bitching and moaning on this thread wouldn't dare do it on a thread about abortion. It's my damned body, thanks very much, you can keep your opinions in your own brain.
(From a tattooed soon to be PhD...but you'd never know unless I showed you).

:grr:

[Warren DeMontague]

46. Like I said, it's your real estate, not mine.

But, finger wagging, tongue-clucking, and armchair quarterbacking are perennial favorite pastimes in this country. People need to find other hobbies.

[Greyhound]

14. And as a SDC Judge he also understands that a single instance does not constitute proof

of anything beyond that instance.

I have nothing against tattoos (or piercings, gaugings, implants, etc.). I firmly believe that every person has the absolute right to do whatever the hell they want to with their own bodies. But achievement in America with those modifications is harder with them.

[seabeyond]

15. i dont see tattoo going up neck and on face wherei t cant be covered with long sleeve

argument fails.

[Codeine]

17. I can't get a sense of what that sleeve looks like.

I'd love to see a better picture of it.

[hobbit709]

18. But these here mean you'll never get a day job.

http://mag.rankmytattoos.com/top-20-outrageous-facial-tattoos.html

[social_critic]

19. Anecdotal Evidence doesn't support case

Statistics show tattoos do hold you back. There may be exceptions to the rule - in this guy's case, he was elected to the post, and it's possible he wore long sleeves during the campaign.

I wonder, did the person who put up the first post own a tattoo parlor? ;-)

[LynneSin]

20. I think it depends on where the tattoo is located

The fact that this guy has tats on his arms means nothing when it comes to his career. You can easily wear a shirt to hide those tattoos during work hours.

Now if the guy had tats across his face then I could see that having impact on his career.

I mean you think this guy gets alot of job opportunities:

[whistler162]

23. Looks like the nurses aide at the local nursing home..;)

[Fla_Democrat]

26. In late October, maybe...

:smoke:

[Le Taz Hot]

30. I wouldn't hire this guy for 2 reasons:

1) over-the-top tattoos/piercing,
2) VERY bad judgment skills (or lack thereof in this case).

Sorry, I guess I'm too old school. Tattoos used to be for sailors and, sorry, but skanks. Afraid it's too late in the game for me to change my mind at this point.

[jmowreader]

38. You never know

If that guy knows how to fix a Harley, the world is his oyster.

[Duer 157099]

44. No job opportunities?

Hell, he used to be the head of DHS!

[pipi_k]

25. I think this should read...

"Tattoos shouldn't hold people back, but unfortunately, they often do".

Because people still judge others by how they look.

[CRK7376]

27. I've got one and love it!

It's mine and I'm proud of it. Hasn't held me back either. Very, very vanilla compaired to a full or even partial sleeve or the extremes posted here in rebuttal to the original post. My wife thinks I'm crazy and it was a midlife crisis, maybe it was, but it's still mine and I wear it proudly. Of course I told my kids not to for years, and then I pop up with one....double standard. So far none of the kids want one, which is good. Neither boy has any tats or piercings, but my 12 yo daughter has pierced ears, is starting to cause her mom and myself plenty of stress stating she wants nose and lip piercings. Not in my house until you are 18 and out of the house...Mostly it's to get a rise out of us, but who knows. Small nose studs I'm ok with, not crazy about nose rings and definitely not inclinded to the lip piercings....Oh well....

[TuxedoKat]

35. Keep talking to her

My 13 year old started out a few years back wanting a second piercing in her ears (I said no) then it graduated to wanting lip, eyebrow and nose piercings and last year she pierced her eyebrow herself (!!!) when I saw it, I freaked out and made her take it out. She had a sore area above one eyebrow which never seemed to heal and then one day I saw a piece of jewelry there that she forgot to remove. At about the same time she got a skin infection on her face -- don't know if it related to the piercing or not, but she heard alot about the dangers of piercing over that from the dermatologist and me.

I kept talking to her and telling her that while I didn't judge people negatively who have tattoos or piercings some people do and it could limit her opportunities (especially since she wants to work in performing arts). Now she looks at them less positively and only wants a small nose piercing which I wouldn't mind too much but not at age 13! I may relent when she's 15 or 16, but mainly because I don't want her to then want a belly button piercing (unattractive IMO, even on the greatest body). She has a friend with multiple piercings and recently said she didn't like all those piercings and she told me that she told one guy friend of hers not to get snakebites.

Is your daughter interested in modeling or anything like that? If so, take her for an evaluation and they will probably give her the same message -- no unusual piercings, etc. Sometimes those messages sink in better too when they hear it from someone else.

[MilesColtrane]

28. Not having money is more likely to hold you back.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

29. one long sleeved blue oxford button down shirt and no one is the wiser.

and oh yeah, those robes.

[deaniac21]

32. I wonder who shit on his arm.

[galileoreloaded]

33. tattoos are a desperate cry for control...in a society that gives you none.

Ten years from now it will be something different.

Meh, I've already had mine removed.

[TuxedoKat]

36. Interesting observation

I've never thought about it that way. Thanks for sharing.

[K8-EEE]

37. Agreed and an attempt at individuality in a cookie cutter culture

but when EVERYBODY AT THE Y has a tattoo on them it feels more "individulist" to resist the trend!

[jmowreader]

40. You know what the real problem is?

Everyone at the Y has a tattoo off the wall of the shop.

[JuniperLea]

39. I've known many professional people with ink...

But like the picture in the OP, the ink is in areas that would be covered by professional attire.

[Withywindle]

41. Meh, it's hardly rare nowadays

I think I know more people with tattoos than without them. I've had my oldest ones for nearly 20 years, never had reason to regret them.

It's not really about whether you have them or not, in my experience. It's where they are and what they are. Can you cover them if you have to? Is it good quality work or is it badly done? Is it a striking, pleasing design or is it crap? Is it anything that could be offensive? Those are the questions that matter.

[AndrewP]

43. Tattoo's are evil!!

No, not really. I have one myself. I'm just mimicking a freeper.

[Nikia]

45. Our company doesn't hire people with visible tattoos

Even though most of the positions don't deal with the public. It is just the owner's personal prejudice. People with tattoos aren't a protected class of people.