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Edited on Mon Dec-06-10 12:34 PM by RandomThoughts
It is part of the progression, basically there is a saying that those that realize they can live in joy, without helping someone, have outgrown the need to help people. Because they figure if it should be done God will do it. From that they can feel like they can do what ever they want, then that leads to the world being in charge of the world, and if things are to get better some person must do something about it, since any concept of listening to anything spiritual is ignored.
For them, that is their view of destroying the ring of power, where concepts of after life become unknowable, so while not listening, people live as they think best based on who they are.
However bad can take advantage of that, and create survival of the fittest or do what ever you want, which is the doctrine of the 'evil' side (but that trap is that they think there is nothing evil or no shame from burning of conscious, not from feeling, 'a bag of bricks to be set down', in a movie, so they accept it.)(other side view of destroying ring of power), and where many that get advantage in positions of influence end up if they agree to not care and think everyone is where they should be, or if they think such things are not any of there concern, although knowing that it is easy to move those groups.
I heard that doctrine also, and it is after the false king stuff, never understood why someone would think themselves a king, there are levels beyond that, being alive for instance, I learned that in first few months years ago, and got past that part.
It is part of "what does God need with a space ship."
On a side note, why would someone ever want to be a king? Only if they can think some should be their peasants, so there has to be an explanation for that, something like the world running the world, and people if able to take it should have it, does that effectively, so concepts of world while ignoring everything of spirit, can create explanations of how people accept 'being a king', and why it is something many do not accept.
That is why some say God is dead, why aesthetic ideas were attached to my comments that were repeated on another site, because they feel they can steal without consequence. They believe if they can kill God in their hearts, the idea spoken about in many places, they can do what ever they want, and they think those that care will hurt, but they think they will not feel any hurt by being a burn out. The idea of complete burn out.
Although there is a paradox there also, that creates eternity of no correction, the paradox is based on is the burn out complete, can heaven let them end? To solve that paradox, that is done when you know a burn out does not exist, although very dangerous since many that are not burn outs some think they are burn outs.
Basically if you can ignore the spiritual, and thought of there being a consequence and conscious, and accept the world is not fair, you can be mean to people pretty easy, and use various things to justify it. It is burning of conscious, not creating conscious. And a complete burnout can only be lost if they do not exist, and if they have none of the spark left and are only an extension of something else then they don't exist,
and old soldiers fade away.
Hence how some can be lost without any lost. Or why it says the only one lost is the son of perdition or the one that kills Christ, because the killing of conscious and love in your heart, is the only way to stop existing, and all that do that are a single thing in a hierarchy, and does not exist as a person of life, but only an extension of something else.
Why also healing the soul, mind, body, and heart, brings them back up, it all fits together.
Although posted about all that stuff years ago, and not something I choose to do or be, hence why when behind enemy lines, not much beer and travel money.
And I am still due beer and travel money and many experiences :D Figure that part out, they will say it is where I am suppose to be.
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