Pres Obama is on TV talking about Made in America

[malaise]

on GEM$NBC.

[tridim]

1. Apparently the new DU doesn't care.

Thanks for posting malaise.

[meow mix]

2. DU changed?

id say its the New Democrats that have changed.. we simply react to it here.

[enlightenment]

6. Good grief.

Cue the tiny violin.

There are half a dozen OPs noting that the President 'will speak'; 'is getting ready to speak'; 'is speaking' on DU.

Are you upset because no one is posting a word for word commentary to express their admiration for his speaking abilities? Wouldn't it make more sense to listen to the speech and then discuss what he said?

[malaise]

18. I'm actually frightened about the Obama

hate at DU these days.
I now understand how Jimmy Carter felt.

[earth mom]

23. Obama did it to himself. It's up to him to be the change he promised. nt

[OHdem10]

3. As he prepares to sign 3 Trade Treaties that many serious

Democrats call wrong or dangerous--bad Treaties.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

4. "Made in America".

How quaint.

And right on the heels of the New Nafta.

[bluestate10]

33. Not quaint. The companies manufacture on the US mainland.

Many of them use 100% USA made supplies to make their products. Sorry, that is not quaint, it is how we come back as an industrial power.

[MadHound]

5. Talking about Made in America while going out and outsourcing more jobs to Korea

Yeah, that's our president.

[somone]

9. War = Peace ..... Surrender = Victory ..... Made in Korea = Made in America

We're in the post-dictionary era.

[izzybeans]

22. I'm trying to find info. regarding the trade agreement.

Can you point me to something that helps me understand how bad it really is?

Thanks

All I've found has been promises that it will increase jobs here and open up Korea to our exports. Is that not right? I don't see anything substantive about what's actually in the deal.

[obxhead]

24. NAFTA touted the same promises. nt

[izzybeans]

25. Thanks but that's not really helpful.

There is not there, there. All I'm finding are statements from the President, from the UAW, and some howlers from the rightwing.

I just want to read the damned thing. That's what is troubling me.

[obxhead]

26. Maybe this is helpful?

http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/139259.pdf

I don't have time at the moment to see if it's exactly what I think it is, but all I could find on short notice.

[izzybeans]

31. This was under the old terms of negotiation. published in Feb.

The rightwingosphere is using the terms crafted under Bush to claim that it will kill American jobs even though they supported it before. The study they cite was conducted under the assumptions crafted by Bush negotiators. The terms changed under Obama, it is just unclear by how much.

This seems like another poison pill. Damned if he does, damned if he don't. The unions seem on board, though and they were at the negotiating table.

He's already taking a beating over it and no one knows the specifics. I wish I thought that it was odd, if it wasn't so common.

[pacalo]

7. For those who missed it or don't have access to a tv, can you provide a recap?

Did he mention plans to discourage outsourcing? Plans for new plant/factory openings?

[MineralMan]

8. Good!

[Le Taz Hot]

10. Talking is fine.

Now, if he'd just back that up by getting Democratic sponsors in the House and Senate to sponsor Bills that will:

-quit giving tax breaks to corporations that send our jobs overseas.
-FINE corporations that send our jobs overseas.
-Give tax incentives to goods Made in America. The more the percentage the labor and materials come from the U.S., the bigger the tax break.
-Repeal NAFTA


Was there any indication of what ACTION he would be taking to enact this Made in America idea?

[Billy Burnett]

29. Yes.We have to get deep in debt getting educated up, then we innovate and invent.

(Then after we innovate and invent, the new "free trade" deals will ensure that the shit we innovate and invent will be manufactured elsewhere (Asia).)

[bluestate10]

34. Talking is fine.

I am seeing a lot of that on DU.

But getting up and doing is a bit more difficult. There are some wonderful companies out there. My favorite is Astees.com, I can't yell to the rafters enough about that company, it builds environmentally sensitive tees, 90% built in the USA with USA supplies, one line is built in Haiti with USA made supplies. It is companies like this that are innovating and fighting the tide of off-shoring everything. Another great teeshirt company is Atayne, it makes environmentally sensitive tees, but does not have the broad product line that Astees does. Atayne build their shirts in the USA and make the raw materials in two USA mainland plants.

If we want to bring about change, we have to do it ourselves, one small step at a time. If we depend on politicians, we will be forever disappointed.

[JDPriestly]

11. He signs a free trade agreement with South Korea one week

and then makes a speech about Made in America the next week.

I wish I could trust this man. But I do not agree with that trade agreement. I do not support the free trade part of Obama's trade policy. The made in America part I like.

I still have some pots and pans that were made long ago before outsourcing. I will have them a long, long time yet. The junk made in China lasts a few years and then is gone.

[Monique1]

13. So............

what did he say? I read the bashing here but what did he say?

[Erose999]

12. Pres. Obama is a fine orator, but at best his words amount to little more than hot air anymore . And

at worst, hot, steaming bullshit.

Trade deals with Korea, cutting "deals" on tax cuts for billionaires, etc.

There was a time when Wal-Mart spoke of "Made in America" too... we know how that turned out.

[Monique1]

14. Again

What did he say?

[obxhead]

15. Just after a new foreign trade deal.

He really makes me laugh sometimes.

[Monique1]

16. Pete and repeat

what did he say? Anyone? Anyone?

[Monique1]

17. I guess no one has a link or knows

what he said. Links anyone?

[pacalo]

19. Frustrating, isn't it. I came back to see if there would be a recap & got nothing

but suppositions. With 3 rec's?

[emilyg]

20. He really makes me cry sometimes.

[closeupready]

21. He also talked about the audacity of hope during the campaign.

:rofl:

[somone]

27. He misspoke

He meant "Hope for Audacity"

[closeupready]

30. lol

I think you nailed it. :hi:

[Catherina]

36. I disagree Somone

I think he meant "The Audacity of Hype"

[Individualist]

28. What irony!

[bluestate10]

32. I just got shipments of clothing.

My tees from Astees.com are drop dead awesome, I was just going to wear them around home and about town, but they were so awesome after I opened and washed them that I wore a thermal and under tee to work today. My trousers from All American Clothing are great also, high quality at a little less than what I would have paid for imported of the same quality. I found both companies by using a web search string "USA made products" and then reviewing the abundance of sites that popped up. Some of my new clothing is union made, some not, but all of it is great stuff. Still awaiting my handmade blanket from New England Trading Company, their small Maine based manufacturer is overwhelmed with orders - thanks to the people that found them like I did.

If we want to positively impact jobs in this country, we need to change our buying habits. Regardless of how much we buy or the price points we buy at, there ARE USA based choices out there making great products. Please find them and at least check out their stuff.

[Hannah Bell]

35. obama just signed another free trade agreement with korea.

[donheld]

37. All talk no action.