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Mon Dec-06-10 02:24 PM
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Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals hearing on (CA) Prop 8, live on C-SPAN - |
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Mon Dec-06-10 02:31 PM
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1. Oy. Pro-Prop 8 lawyer is arguing the basis of marriage is propagation and prevention of single mom |
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households, i.e. children born out of wedlock. Court is pointedly debating his argument.
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Mon Dec-06-10 02:54 PM
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2. Unwittingly, the lawyer arguing for Prop 8 brought up a core flaw in the Proposition process - |
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Edited on Mon Dec-06-10 02:55 PM by pinto
voters in CA can overturn provisions of the State Constitution via the proposition process. i.e. A proportionally small number of citizens can by-pass both the State legislature and the State court.
Fed judge countered that, in this instance, the end result may outweigh the right to put forth a proposition, constitutionally. And challenges the lawyer's narrow stand on the legality of propositions without considering the result.
Interesting side argument.
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Mon Dec-06-10 03:18 PM
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3. Ted Olsen's not doing us a good job in this venue, imo. |
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He's sidetracking from the legal points too often. The judges, though, are countering with requests to put the argument in legal / prior case / constitutional terms.
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Mon Dec-06-10 04:12 PM
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7. I thought Olson made a great point when said ... |
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CA voters took away a constitutional right (as deemed by SCOTUS) from a group of people engaged in a constitutionally protected activity (as deemed by SCOTUS). Olson made have started slowly but he made one he'll of a convincing point there citing the Loving and Lawrence cases, respectively if I have my cases correct.
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Mon Dec-06-10 03:42 PM
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4. Therese Stewart, SF City Attorney, making some great points. |
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Basically on the legal disconnect of State support for stable, responsible families, in many venues, and denial for gays to form stable, responsible families in a legal framework.
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