Who would you prefer Obama to govern like?

[Renew Deal]

Compromise driven like Obama
Dictatorial like Bush

[Write Left]

1. Trick question.

[Fresh_Start]

2. Other, a democrat nt

nt

[LonePirate]

Yeah, a Democrat, preferably of the FDR variety. I'd even settle for one of the Johnson variety.

This Republican-masquerading-as-a-Democrat stance of his is insulting and infuriating.

[Renew Deal]

13. How was the filibuster used during FDR or LBJ?

[txlibdem]

55. They didn't dare filibuster because they knew

That FDR would hand them their asses in a hat. And the American people were fully behind FDR.

Don't forget also that there was a sizable Socialist movement in the US at that time so the wealthy feared the Socialists taking control of government --policies would then favor the majority, the poor and middle class and not the wealthy.

Today there is NO Socialist or Communist support in the US, and the rich and the Corporations run roughshod all over your rights and take your property when and how they please.

[IRemember]

3. I see little difference between the two choices.

[Renew Deal]

6. How is that possible?

Bush even said he wanted to be a dictator.

[Goldstein1984]

4. What's the difference?

[LooseWilly]

28. Success v. Failure in enacting legislation reflecting one's rhetoric.

[Goldstein1984]

34. I stand corrected...

It's a pity we have to look fondly back on George W. Bush for an example of leadership.

Is that funny sad, or what?

[LooseWilly]

45. That is indeed funny-sad.

That is so funny-sad that I think I'm going to laugh-cry... and require a drink afterward.

[Individualist]

5. A progressive.

[Safetykitten]

7. Gengis Khan

[Renew Deal]

10. lol

:rofl:

[quaker bill]

47. +1

Beat me to it. I knew some here would prefer that style

[Johnny Harpo]

8. How About Jed Bartlett?

n/t

[alittlelark]

9. uh, yeah... kinda LAME

[Renew Deal]

12. You know you want to vote for Bush.

:evilgrin:

[alittlelark]

14. Don't make me go to (undeclared) and whomp ya!

Seriously.

[ClassWarrior]

11. Howard Dean.

NGU.

[Kaleva]

18. Howard Dean was a moderate as governor.

[ClassWarrior]

22. Even that'd be an improvement.

And there is no such thing as a "moderate." Google "No Center, No Centrists" by George Lakoff.

NGU.

[Kaleva]

26. I would agree that...

no one is a liberal on all issues nor is anyone a conservative on all issues but on can take a rough average and possibly end up in the middle, on average.

[ClassWarrior]

33. Except that renders the discussion meaningless. We're talking about values here.

You can't just "average 'em out." Why operate on a false and faulty premise?

NGU.

[Kaleva]

42. I disagree

Altough I haven't been there in a long time, I'm still a member of the military.com forum. I was constantly getting into debates with others there. Some of whom called me a leftwing nutjob and even told me I didn't belong there but I had enough moderate to conservative views on certain issues to survive. Here at DU, I get into many debates with some of the more liberally ardent members. But I do have some liberal views on certain issues so I do okay here. So, if I get called names at the conservative military.com and get into heated discussions here at DU, I then must be somewhere between the two. I'm in the middle.

[ClassWarrior]

53. No you're not. You said it yourself. You're roughly half liberal and half conservative.

How does that place you in the mythical "middle" - other than in terms of a lazy shorthanded expression?

NGU.

[Kaleva]

54. And what does that average out to be then?

And I'm really not all that conservative on any issue nor am I all that liberal on any issue.

[ClassWarrior]

60. It doesn't average out to be anything. You have a basket of apples and ground beef...

...and bars of soap. What does that average out to be? It doesn't. And to use terminology that suggests it does tells our elected officials that the way to win this vast pool of so-called "centrists" is to be tepid and timid.

That's a losing strategy. And it's harmful to the nation.

NGU.

[jillan]

15. You forgot to include "other" in your choices. I am unable to vote in this poll.

[Renew Deal]

16. I didn't forget

:D

[mmonk]

17. An unemployed worker.

[msongs]

19. FDR.. "I welcome their hatred" instead of seek it out and relish it lol nt

[NoPasaran]

20. Ivan the Terrible

Or at least Ivan the Very, Very Strict

Suck it, boyars!

[Renew Deal]

24. lol

:rofl:

[quaker bill]

49. There is someone

who knew how to deal with the opposition, .... to the extent it was still alive that is.

[KansasVoter]

21. stupid poll. dumb.

[Renew Deal]

23. OK, but what's your choice?

People want to vote for Bush, but they can't bring themselves to do it.

[Angry Dragon]

25. Other

A big f***ing angry black man that cares about people and this country
That fights like he means it

[laughingliberal]

27. Unrec. False dichotomy. nt

[apocalypsehow]

32. Ever since the spat between Jon Stewart & KO, there has been a great deal of confusion about what

constitutes a "False dichotomy."

This reply has just added to it.

For starters, it's more commonly known as a "False dilemma," and for seconders, neither KO nor his defenders seem to understand what actually constitutes the same.

Here, educate yourself:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma

[laughingliberal]

35. No, what Stewart did was false equivalency. Not the same thing.

False Dichotomy

The fallacy of false dichotomy is committed when the arguer claims that his conclusion is one of only two options, when in fact there are other possibilities. The arguer then goes on to show that the 'only other option' is clearly outrageous, and so his preferred conclusion must be embraced.

http://mind.ucsd.edu/syllabi/98-99/logic/falsedichotomy.html

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[laughingliberal]

41. A false dichotomy is presenting a question as if there are only 2 choices when there may be more.

That's what the OP did.

[Renew Deal]

51. That doesn't apply here.

It is a preference between one or the other. They are significantly different from each other. You must prefer one.

[laughingliberal]

62. Applies perfectly. Those are not the only choices. It's a push poll. nt

[MrSlayer]

29. I would not have minded a Bush style of governing.

A bully on the left would have been great. All that bipartisan bullshit is just that, bullshit. Nice guys finish last as we are seeing.

[LooseWilly]

30. Other— Like Stalin.

I mean, why pine for a half-ass dictatorial allegorical substitution, when there're perfectly good real dictators to be named.

And by extension, why would any of us care how Obama governs, if the policy works out the same once the bells and whistles are tolled and blown?

Of course, you didn't give the choice of a write-in (other) vote... did you? Rather black-and-white thinking of you, isn't it? Sounds like a Bush-style good guy v. bad guy set up. Did you vote for Bush in your own poll?

[Zanzobar]

31. Have you stopped beating your wife?

[Obamanaut]

37. Other: Like 'Campaign Obama" nt

[L. Coyote]

38. FDR

[Metric System]

39. Can I pick Assange?

Heh.

[Scurrilous]

59. Assange would make a great President.

Just keep him away from the female interns.:P

[frylock]

40. i like turtles

[QC]

43. A Democrat. n/t

[ddeclue]

44. FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT.

Obama isn't much of an improvement over Bush. He is just more articulate..only he articulates the same policies as Bush.

[BlueIris]

46. Okay, for real? Bush. Bush at least believed he had the authority to USE the power of the office.

For some messed up reasons, yes, namely thinking he was Nero reborn, but he felt entitled to use the power of the position he was in. Obama doesn't seem to understand how to do that, or rather, IMO, hasn't been given permission to do that by the people pulling the strings, and either can't, or won't, break free of them.

[quaker bill]

48. and beyond

[Renew Deal]

50. I think a lot of people feel that way.

Someone posted recently that only Republican presidents are allowed to govern. Dems have to just keep the seat warm. I think Obama has done more than keep the seat warm. There seems to be outrage by the republicans no matter what Dems do, so Dems might as well do what they want. It's the same response.

[TBF]

52. I'm going to suggest Eisenhower - he actually expanded Social Security -

http://www.eisenhowermemorial.org/social-security.htm

[H2O Man]

56. Other

[L0oniX]

57. FDR

[Edweird]

58. FDR

[JustAnotherGen]

61. More of an

I Don'T Give A Damn We're Doing it . . . like Johnson. Or like dare I say it Lincoln who pretty much said, Be mad - see if I care (to the opposition).