Does anyone doubt that Dick Cheney spied heavily on Democrats?

[Vinnie From Indy]

I, for one, would bet a ton that Cheney used the awesome powers of the NSA to collect info on many, many Democrats. Sadly, it would only take compromising a few key Democrats to still have effective control over much of the working of our government. Could this have been part of the "deal" that got Obama elected?

The same holds true with many in our media. Cheney digs up some career ending dirt on a journalist and then he owns them.

La Cosa Nostra has been doing it for decades with politicians and judges. Why not Cheney?

[stray cat]

1. and would have been heroic if he leaked the results

[RKP5637]

2. Would not be surprised at all, not in the least bit surprised. n/t

[CJCRANE]

3. That was the amazing thing about the Bush Era...

they had the authority to (and probably did) snoop on everyone...

But the Bush-Cheney White House was almost totally opaque, a complete information black hole.

[RandomThoughts]

4. Only if they fear dirt being said on them.

And if society is so self rightous that they do not know that some of the better people have some flaws.

Since some of the better people are on the front lines.

Or as Abe said, Never met a good person without some flaws.


Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?
Abraham Lincoln

"Finding a pure lover that wont blow your cover." What if a pure lover is your friend, it will destroy your own enemy in yourself.


America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
Abraham Lincoln

The only destruction is self destruction.


As I would not be a slave, so I would not be a master. This expresses my idea of democracy.
Abraham Lincoln

Why would someone want to own someone else?

Be sure you put your feet in the right place, then stand firm.
Abraham Lincoln

Not just where you stand, but the direction you are facing.


Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all.
Abraham Lincoln

Why if I do say something true, I don't need nor ask for credit.

Character is like a tree and reputation like a shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing.
Abraham Lincoln

And a note to those that believe in reputation first.

Common looking people are the best in the world: that is the reason the Lord makes so many of them.
Abraham Lincoln

Don't interfere with anything in the Constitution. That must be maintained, for it is the only safeguard of our liberties.
Abraham Lincoln

I will prepare and some day my chance will come.
Abraham Lincoln

Give me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening the axe.
Abraham Lincoln


Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power.
Abraham Lincoln

[leveymg]

5. Does anyone believe that shredders catch fire unless they're really, really overworked?

Remember the fire in Dick's Office (actually his Political Director, Amy Whitelaw) in the Old Executive Office Bldg. on 12/19/07? :tinfoilhat:

[tcaudilllg]

6. I'm glad I don't have Holder's genes...

...because that guy has no "gravitas". :lol:

[DBoon]

7. I'm sure that is how they got Elliot Spitzer

The most powerful politician willing and able to take on the financial moguls was brought down by a hooker

Meanwhile, someone like Vitter keeps getting re-elected