Ok, so where are the jobs?

[Robyn66]

Well? LEts see, they have HAD the tax cuts all along and no jobs. Now they will CONTINUE to have the tax cuts. Arent we supposed to have jobs falling from the sky now? Aren't the jillionairs going to step up and employ EVERYONE now???????

Who is going to ask every RETHUG, EVERY DAY, WHERE ARE THE FUCKING JOBS??????????????

[badtoworse]

1. They're on the way

FWIW, http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Job-openings-rise-sharply-to-apf-4105185263.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=1&asset=&ccode=

[rfranklin]

3. Did you get to the last sentence?

There is a long, long way to go. This sounds like the "dead cat bounce" of the job market.

[badtoworse]

5. Can't anyone on this board be optimistic?

It's not going to change overnight. It's going to improve a little before it improves a lot.

[katnapped]

29. TEN YEARS already

Just how long do you want?!?

[rfranklin]

2. Got to get rid of that nasty corporate tax...

It's preventing corporation from building all those new factories in the USA that they are just itching to build except for that nasty corporate tax (which no one pays.)

And after that it will be any taxes for people who make a million a year. Et cetera.

[RKP5637]

4. Just give it a week or two, unemployment will probably fall to 4% or less. Everyone

is just lining up to create millions of jobs, just like that. These tax cuts have worked so well to create jobs for years and years, no reason to doubt them now. Ain't this all great!!! What a F'en charade.

[Robyn66]

6. I know what the excuse will be now....

its only for two years we still feel insecure...........

[katnapped]

30. Actually you're right

I saw it in another thread...someone said exactly that on one of the talking head shows...still "Too much uncertainty regrding the duration"

[madrchsod]

7. they are in India,Thailand/Burma, Vietnam,and China. oops! i forgot-

Mexico, Central America, and Malaysia.

there will be millions of unemployed for years to come...

[somone]

8. Any Day Now

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[HughBeaumont]

9. They're ON THE CLOCK!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9700553

Tick Tock Tick Tock, bitches! The jobs engine better fire up and fire up FAST.

See, why is it that we cannot hold the champions of unbridled Trickle Down capitalism to their WORDS? We should be asking these assholes who think Tax Cuts for the Rich = Jobs, well, where the HELL are the JOBS??? Every single DAY we should be asking this.

[Egnever]

10. so you are of the opinion that ending the tax cuts would create jobs?

[Robyn66]

13. No

I am of the opinion its a false argument that continuing them creates jobs

[Egnever]

14. So you dont think keeping them will save any jobs?

[Robyn66]

17. No

It is a fact that as the incomes got higher the tax savings was tiny. Big busniss made huge profits this year-so they are not hurting. Over seas labor is cheap, that is why jobs are gone not taxes.

[Egnever]

22. And thats your problem

You like so many other on this board and elsewhere refuse to acknowledge that this isn't about the top 2 percenters its about the lower 95% the top tax cuts will have little to no effect but losing the lower cuts would be disastrous to millions of people who are just barely holding on.

The deficit is not the most important thing we are facing and throwing the rich a bone wont make one bit of difference in our economy. Its the lower 95% Obama is fighting and compromising for.

[Robyn66]

25. Where you are mistaken is

I am only talking about the myth that the 1% or 2% who are getting the tax break that arent going to create jobs. I never said anything else. I have no problem with everyone else getting the tax cuts. I absolutely agree with you otherwise.

The Rethugs say the rich MUST get the tax cuts and will destroy everyone else if they dont. They say its because the rich create jobs. That is a MYTH. If the Democratic congress could do its job, we could get some real things accomplished for the people who are REALLY hurting in this country.

If that is what the Republicans want to say then they need to be held accountable. I want to see the jobs that this tax break for the rich are creating. I find it interesting the number of Democrats defending the Republicans on this point.

[Catherina]

12. Look here

You see the woman putting on the royal shoes?




But I'm not going to ask every Republican, I'm going to ask every Democrat. The Republicans don't answer to me, the Democrats who allowed this do.

[xchrom]

15. There won't really be a bunch of new jobs - but moderate dems

Will tell you not to believe your lying eyes.

[Egnever]

16. There also wont be a massive wave of layoffs

due to the tax breaks for the middle class expiring or unemployment running out.



Some of you fuckers are silly. You want jobs then bitch when Obama tries to save them.

[Robyn66]

18. can you guarantee that? (nt)

[Egnever]

21. LOL

I can gurentee that if the tax cuts and unemployment expire there will be massive layoffs again and another wave of forclosures.

[Robyn66]

23. Did I say anything about wanting to see unemployment expire?

I am ONLY saying the argument that tax cuts create jobs is false.

[Egnever]

24. So you're just bitching then?

You acknowledge the fact that if these cuts were to expire and unemployment benefits were allowed to lapse that it would be disastrous yet you had to post a piss on the compromise post cause you don't like the framing of the top tax cuts?

Sorry but I find that pathetic.

[Robyn66]

26. Did you actually read my post?

I will try and explain this again. And if you really need to continue to represent the Republican defence of the ultra rich good for you. I am simply stating, if as the Republicans have been contending the ultra rich HAD to have the tax cuts to CREATE JOBS then WE (the Democrats) need to hold the Republicans accountable for that position. I dont know if I can be any clearer.

You seem determined to project an entirely different topic about President Obama's compromise on this thread and that has NOTHING to do with what I am talking about here.

[katnapped]

31. And to get a job at Walmart or Mickey Dees

Cuz well any income is better than none!

[Freddie Stubbs]

19. Ask the 90% of American workers who have jobs

Allowing all of the tax cuts to expire may have caused there to be less jobs then there currently are. Allowing unemployment benefits to expire would have been disastrous to to the long-term unemployed.

[Robyn66]

20. Never said anything about that.

Just calling out the false argument that tax cuts for the top 1% will create jobs.

[xchrom]

27. So why aren't we creating all these jobs now?

Bush had how many years to create those jobs with those tax cuts -
We should be floooded with jobs.

And wasn't Obama talking about how there are jobs
That won't be coming back?

[SoCalDem]

28. Here.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9709614