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Wed Dec-08-10 03:11 PM
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Repealing DADT Is A Lot More Important To Me Than Some Greedy Pigs Getting Their Filthy Lucre |
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If it is repealed I will consider the 111th Congress an unqualified success...
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:19 PM
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1. Looking good, hoping somebody will keep McCain from screwing it up. |
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:22 PM
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5. How is it "looking good?" |
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:28 PM
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Edited on Wed Dec-08-10 03:29 PM by DemocratSinceBirth
"We have 60+ votes in support of repealing #DADT - it is vitally important to reach agreement on the right process to move forward."
-Joe Lieberman via Twitter
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:40 PM
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19. Except the "timetable" is the excuse that is being prepared with the public. |
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"We really wanted to, we really did try, but the time just ran out."
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:43 PM
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20. They Are Voting Today/Tonight |
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I hope Lieberman doesn't turn out to be a fool...
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Wed Dec-08-10 06:01 PM
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29. For every rotten thing I've said about Joe (and he deserved it), I trust him on this issue. |
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:19 PM
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Since, that is exactly why they're throwing this pork chop at the Liberals at this time.
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:23 PM
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This is the greatest advance for civil rights since the landmark civil rights legislation of the mid sixties.
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:40 PM
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18. I have to agree with you. A pork chop is pretty substantial. |
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Just don't lose your zeal for the rest of the progressive platform.
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:20 PM
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3. It will be a failure IMO if DADT is not repealed. It will be a commentary to |
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me on how shallow this gov. is about civil rights and frankly the civility of the country in the future. The Greedy Pigs will have won again.
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:21 PM
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4. I agree with both of you. |
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DADT is a defining issue.
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:26 PM
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11. It Is And It Can't Be Taken Away |
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I will literally cry tears of joy if it's repealed.
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:22 PM
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6. I would agree with you- but the republicans won't budge until |
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they get their tax cuts for the rich and famous.
And while Pres. Obama understands the necessity of making some tough choices to achieve the best possible outcome, there are an awful lot of people are saying that repealing DADT, extending UE benefits and other vital issues aren't as important as making a political statement.. while declaring that THEY are the 'real' democrats.
:shrug:
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:23 PM
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7. While I hope that DADT repeal happens, I likewise hope UI is provided |
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Edited on Wed Dec-08-10 03:24 PM by hlthe2b
for those people desperate and jobless. While I do not support this Obama "compromise," I surely hope we don't lose focus on the fact that there are those suffering who simply CAN NOT wait.
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:24 PM
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I know the conventional wisdom is that this will not pass, but I am still hoping otherwise.
Both Mr. Frazzled and I have put in appeals to our brand new Illinois senator, Mark Kirk (R--yikes). He was a relatively moderate Republican in social terms who is now going to be tightly controlled by his party. The people of Illinois support the repeal of DADT, and it is incumbent upon him to represent his constituents.
I was 14 years old when the Civil Rights Act passed, a young adult when the Equal Rights Amendment didn't, and would like to be a part of this continued march toward social justice and equality. I truly am actually praying (even though I'm pretty much an agnostic!).
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:25 PM
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10. Why don't we The People govern instead of |
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those who are elites/millionaires/billionaires controlling the Whitehouse? It's a very bad idea because of their self serving vested interests, catering to corporations and military industrial complex. Barf!
Yes, I agree with you. Repealing DADT is VERY important. The top!
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:31 PM
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14. Wow, talk about low expectations |
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Especially considering that Obama could have already ended DADT before now.
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:36 PM
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:44 PM
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21. Letting the Log Cabin Republicans ruling stand unchallenged |
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Or stopping the loss of personal through DADT via stop loss orders.
I truly do hope that DADT is repealed in Congress, but I fear that it isn't, that we're all being played again. And even if it is passed, it certainly won't make this Congress an unqualified success. It will simply mean that this Congress was a little less sucky that I originally thought.
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:49 PM
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24. It's Always Better To Have Legislation Passed By The Legislature Than The Courts |
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But I would take what I could get.
Having the legislature do it robs the konservatives of the argument that liberals can't persuade majorities of the righteousness of their causes and need the courts to do their bidding...
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:54 PM
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26. Ah, so we should have run Brown v. Board through the courts then |
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Glad that you and Obama weren't in charge of the Civil Rights movement, we'd still be fighting that one now.
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:58 PM
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28. I Said I Would Accept A S C Decision In Lieu Of Legislative Action |
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But legislative action has more legitimacy.
Konservatives are still kvetching about Roe v Wade nearly forty years later...
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:39 PM
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16. Well, I'm in your corner, DSB. |
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It is the elephant in the living room that everyone wants to dance around.
But the LBGT community will not let this one pass. Those days are gone.
Good for you, DSB. K&R.
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:39 PM
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17. Call me a multi-tasker I guess - but they are both important to me |
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for many reasons I can not and will not abandon my position on either. The future is at stake with both.
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:44 PM
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22. They're not getting THEIR "filthy lucre," they're getting OURS. And making our kids pay for it. |
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While demanding that the unemployed be on their own and that Social Security be handed over to Wall Street.
We can keep DADT on the agenda, keep attaching to appropriations bills, keep doing whatever is necessary to repeal it...but once we give the rich mofos their $700,000,000,000 it's GONE, with nothing but economic trouble in our future. DADT MUST be repealed. But not at the expense of our entire economy. They don't have to be part of the same fight.
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Wed Dec-08-10 06:42 PM
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32. 130 billion is tax cuts for the wealthy. The remainder benefits the middle class. |
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:44 PM
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23. I thought I just replied to this. |
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Is this part of some multi-forum experiment to compare reactions?
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Wed Dec-08-10 03:50 PM
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25. Dont Hold Your Breath. nt. |
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Wed Dec-08-10 06:06 PM
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Wow, that is just staggering. They can screw the whole country into the ground but if you get your one thing it is an "unqualified success."
Sad.
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Wed Dec-08-10 06:11 PM
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31. That's not what he said. |
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A lot of good has happened in the last two years too.
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