Obama: Liberals don't feel 'betrayed'

[cali]

President Obama is denying that liberals in his party, who are upset over the deal to give tax cuts to the rich, are turning on him.

"It is inaccurate to characterize Democrats writ large as feeling, quote-unquote, betrayed," Obama told reporters in the Oval Office on Wednesday. "I think the more they look at it, the more of them are going to say, 'This makes sense.' "

Obama, speaking after meeting with Poland's president, also expressed confidence that Congress would pass the package with the tax cuts and the START deal with Russia. He said he has spoken with Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell about the arms treaty and that it would be taken up in the current session of Congress.

He didn't answer questions about repealing "don't ask, don't tell."

http://www.politico.com/politico44/perm/1210/give_it_time_b0ea7c2b-eee1-42ba-ba5a-ce4b5b029c19.html


Nothing like denial.

[Tansy_Gold]

1. How would he know? He's not exactly a liberal himself. n/t

[Nite Owl]

2. Someone needs to prick

that bubble he lives in and let his see reality.

[hlthe2b]

3. wow... he really needs to escape the bubble...

[Vinca]

4. That's amazing. He's obviously trapped in the bubble if this is what he thinks.

[polichick]

5. I guess he'll keep telling himself that until he can't anymore. nt

[laconicsax]

6. What's there to feel betrayed about?

It's not like he ran on ending the * tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans and repeatedly pledged to do so...:grr:

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[cali]

10. from me? uh, no. I just posted a story. duh.

[emulatorloo]

20. POLITICO sometimes gets "creative" with their headlines and reporting.

Lots of times DU goes ballistic over a POLITICO story that turns out to be inaccurate.

Maybe somebody else will do a story with full quotes.

[Egnever]

25. So you chose to ignore your own quote and run with politicos bullshit?

From your own OP

"It is inaccurate to characterize Democrats writ large as feeling, quote-unquote, betrayed," Obama told reporters in the Oval Office on Wednesday. "I think the more they look at it, the more of them are going to say, 'This makes sense.' "

You chose to perpetuate the dishonesty of politico, or did you not read your own quote?

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[Lindsay]

11. Sillies.

He's merely proving that if you feel betrayed, you're not a liberal.

Or something.

:banghead:

[gateley]

12. I don't know how he can be so unaware of the outrage. nt

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[myrna minx]

13. How would he know? If all is well, why the sneering and lashing out yesterday?

:shrug:

[blondeatlast]

14. Mr. President, you think wrong. Until you get that past your advisers,

you are going to be ineffective.

[emulatorloo]

15. How come his quote does not say "Liberals"? Creative writing on Politico's part?

[sabrina 1]

16. Does he ever speak to Democrats? Apparently many Democrats

didn't know about this tax cut deal, but he speaks all the time to Boner (yes, I know, spelling mistake deliberate) and to other Republicans, like Lindsey Graham and Judd Gregg two of his BFF.

As far as who he is calling 'liberals', it seems it is now fashionable for the rightwing of the Democratic Party to call themselves 'liberals'.

How about we just dispense with labels and say that many people who voted for him, have been disappointed over and over again by his apparent caving (although more and more I do not think he is caving) to Republicans and his unwillingness to fight for the people who elected him.

DLC now = Liberal I have been told. As Shakespeare said 'what's in a name, a rose by any other name would smell as sweet :eyes:

[lame54]

17. Hell, I'm not even a liberal anymore...

First i wasn't his base
Now I'm not even a liberal

[young but wise]

18. He's right, Democrats as a whole do not feel betrayed.

[B Calm]

24. Don't count on it. . I didn't think he could ever lose my support. .

[blondeatlast]

32. Me too. Something critical has happened this week if the likes of myself can

wonder about him.

[Donnachaidh]

63. really? Spent a lot of time on the phone asking them?

You missed a few million :rofl:

[TwilightGardener]

19. Did he say "liberals", or is that the reporter? Or did he say "Democrats, writ large"?

[emulatorloo]

40. AP story on the same conference does not have the word "Liberal" This is POLITICO spin.

[Individualist]

21. How bizarre!

[DearAbby]

22. I am just to fucking stupid to understand it right now

Is that correct Mr President?

Psssssssssh

[AndrewP]

51. Yeah, I guess we just aren't smart enough to understand what is good for us.

That's the message we get from the White House.

[sasha031]

23. He does not understand

maybe what Dean said "the beltway mentality" is accurate...

[femrap]

26. Yeah, I love seeing

the wealthiest of the wealthiest get even more money while the deficit soars to unsafe levels. :sarcasm:

Betrayed? No, I don't feel betrayed. I feel as if he has spat in the face of all the poor, unemployed, working poor, and former middle class members. That's how I feel. I feel despised.

His arrogance is getting on my last nerve.

Many, many well known economists are saying he is going to bring this country down with these policies helping the wealthiest of all. They don't need help.

I'm living in Dumfukistan. Up is down. War is Peace. Rich is poor.

[CBGLuthier]

27. He best get his vision and hearing checked.

Such a fool he has become.

[gateley]

28. But seriously, folks - if Obama didn't say Liberals and said Dems, he's

probably right. Most people I know aren't even paying attention to this. If they don't see an increase in their paycheck withholding next year, they won't feel betrayed.

[thereismore]

29. Only the professional left do. Liberals don't

:crazy:

[zipplewrath]

30. I suspect his is speaking of congressional democrats

My personal suspicion is that he meant the senators and congressmen, not the population at large.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

31. Never mind. He's just talking about those people with silly "core values".

[emulatorloo]

44. Or POLITICO is making up silly divisive shit again

The other two sources I found quote Obama accurately, and the word "Liberal" is nowhere to be found

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2010/12/obama-congress-should-approve-tax-deal-start/1

Obama rejected a reporter's suggestion that Democrats feel "betrayed" by the two-year extension of tax cuts for individuals who make more than $200,000 a year, and couples who make more than $250,000. "I think it is inaccurate to characterize Democrats, writ large, as quote-unquote betrayed," Obama said.

[RufusTFirefly]

33. Classic shoddy Politico reporting

Where other than in the headline does it say "liberals"?

The original question was from Bill Plante, and you'll note that neither Plante nor the President uses the word "liberals."

Q Mr. President, now that you’ve negotiated with the Republicans, are you willing to negotiate with the Democrats who think they’ve -- that you’ve betrayed them on the tax package?
And when you talked to the Republicans, did they give you any assurances that they would take up START and “don’t ask” in the lame duck?

PRESIDENT OBAMA: Well, first of all, Bill, I think it is inaccurate to characterize Democrats writ large as feeling “betrayed.” I think Democrats are looking at this bill, and you’ve already had a whole bunch of them who said this makes sense. And I think the more they look at it, the more of them are going to say this makes sense.

I'm a liberal, and I feel betrayed. But the President never addressed that issue. Politico just made it up.

[asdjrocky]

34. Now he's smoking Yes We Cannabis.

Really Mr President, we are pretty fucking pissed off. Honest, we are.

[saracat]

35. Yeah Barney Franks and Pelosi don't count.Nor does DK, Krugman

Maddow, Olberman, or scores of others. Denial is amazing.

[cottonseed]

36. Ever try comparing the quote with the headline?. This OP is poop. There I said it.

[Bluerthanblue]

37. the first line of this doesn't jibe with the quote that supposedly

supports it.

This is pretty lousy journalism.

"President Obama is denying that liberals in his party, who are upset over the deal to give tax cuts to the rich, are turning on him.


the president actually said:

""It is inaccurate to characterize Democrats writ large as feeling, quote-unquote, betrayed,"

Twist the words as you wish Abby & Matt.

[emulatorloo]

42. Both AP and USATODAY report it accurately. In other words, with out politico's made up "liberal"

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2010/12/obama-congress-should-approve-tax-deal-start/1

Obama rejected a reporter's suggestion that Democrats feel "betrayed" by the two-year extension of tax cuts for individuals who make more than $200,000 a year, and couples who make more than $250,000. "I think it is inaccurate to characterize Democrats, writ large, as quote-unquote betrayed," Obama said.

[Bluerthanblue]

52. thanks- It changes the message quite a bit imo.

:hi:

[DJ13]

38. When you have to constantly scold the base over policies

Doesnt than imply you're doing something wrong Mr. President?

I mean, it wasnt the damned Republicans that elected you.

[RKP5637]

41. Very good point! Scolding the base seems to be vogue now and that is

getting damn strange.

[emulatorloo]

43. Politico "created" the Liberal thing. The question and answer was about democrats as a whole

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2010/12/obama-congress-should-approve-tax-deal-start/1

Obama rejected a reporter's suggestion that Democrats feel "betrayed" by the two-year extension of tax cuts for individuals who make more than $200,000 a year, and couples who make more than $250,000. "I think it is inaccurate to characterize Democrats, writ large, as quote-unquote betrayed," Obama said.

[kctim]

46. Wasn't just liberals either

This supposed 'War on liberals' is worse than the 'War on Christmas' ever was.

[emulatorloo]

39. AP story on this DOES NOT have the word "liberal" POLITICO is stirring the pot

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2010/12/08/general-us-tax-cuts_8190702.html?boxes=Homepagebusinessnews

The president forcefully rejected suggestions he had abandoned his allies to strike an agreement with the GOP.

"I think it is inaccurate to characterize Democrats, writ large, as quote-unquote betrayed," he said.

MORE AT LINK.


"Democrats writ large" is a poorly constructed way to say "most Democrats"

[Moondog]

45. If he actually believes this, he is delusional - if he doesn't he is prevaricating.

[Autumn]

47. He knows this? How?

He sure is wrong on this. I know about 15 die hard Democrats, liberals all, in real life that are sure as the fuck disappointed, disgusted and feel betrayed.

[Ramulux]

48. Wow

I have a simple request, why dont you name one? Who are these actual "liberals" who dont feel betrayed by this? I literally have not spoken to one democrat who thinks this is anything other than pathetic. I dont like to pretend like the people I know are representative of the liberal community at large but every single democrat I know is furious about this and many of them call themselves moderates and are usually hesitant to criticize Obama about anything. All I can say is that if the moderates I know are pissed, he has a real fucking problem on his hands.

Also, is this not the most pathetic attempt to write-off legitimate criticism ever?

[Matariki]

49. Seems to be learning Republican messaging techniques.

Or is it an attempt at Jedi Mind Tricks. "This isn't the legislation you're angry at"...

[Taverner]

50. No, Mister Blue Dog President, we do feel betrayed

So much for 2012....

[Luciferous]

53. Oh, really?! I guess his head is so far up his ass he can't see that

the liberals are jumping ship.

[JuniperLea]

54. Politico loves to stir the shit...

According to other sources, he never used the word "liberal." Democrats and liberals are not interchangeable words.

I haven't read Politico since day three of their existence. Too much BS.

[Liberalynn]

55. Can't make any moves even a diplmoatic one now without consulting his best pal Mitchy.

Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.

[dkofos]

56. Totally fucking clueless

[bvar22]

57. "Liberals don't feel betrayed."

"NAFTA will be GOOD for the Working Class."

"We'll fix it later."

"I did not have sex with that woman."

"I am not a crook."

"America does not torture"

"I did not campaign on a Public Option"


What do all of the above have in common?

[Catherina]

58. He's totally deluded. Who's advising him? n/t

[Blue_In_AK]

59. Really?

Speak for yourself, Mr. President.

[Forkboy]

60. To quote Monty Python, "So much for pathos."

[somone]

61. The reality distortion field is strong

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[Rex]

62. I am a DFH but don't feel betrayed, I never believed he would keep his campaign

promises, what politician ever does? I did hope he would turn out to be less of the corporate suit I'd read about and feared. Hey, after 8 years of Bush I was just relieved the murdering bastard was finally GONE from the office his party stole from us in 2000.

[Raine]

64. He's absolutely delusional if he really believes that.

He better get his head out of where he's got it stuck and face reality.

[dflprincess]

65. Nixon had a firmer grasp on reality

when he was wandering the White House talking to portraits of dead presidents.