Lawrence O'Donnell is a pathetic egomaniac

[Ramulux]

His self-righteous rant against Alan Grayson was the most absurd thing I have seen on MSNBC in a long time. I am literally stunned, I am normally a fan of this guy but this was just pathetic. He was just so fucking rude to everybody and had such an obvious agenda and was not listening to a word that anyone was saying. Alan puts him in his place and then Arriana backs him up and Lawrence basically shuts the fuck up. This dude needs to chill out and stop pretending like the fact that he was a senate staffer somehow gives him some sort of inside knowledge that no one else gets. Alan Grayson is a fucking congressman, you are not privy to any inside information that he isn't you you clown.

[Towlie]

1. It was unexpected and shocking, that's for sure!

[Hello_Kitty]

2. I just tweeted him about how the tax compromise actually raises taxes on the poor

Obama traded the Make Work Pay credits for the payroll tax bullshit and it will cost low income taxpayers an average of $400 to $800.

[aquart]

10. Which eliminates one of Laurance's major arguments.

[Bryn]

18. How does this work? The figure?

so that I can share. How does the tax compromise raise taxes on the poor by between $400 and $800?

[Hello_Kitty]

26. Here's a link

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/deal-raises-taxes-poorest-earners/

Pres. Obama traded the Make Work Pay credit for the payroll tax cut. It works out to an increase on the lowest wage earners.

[Bryn]

Thank you for the link. Amazing!

I am glad someone caught this dirty deal for the poorest workers. Wow! I have posted this on my facebook so more people will see.

[dflprincess]

31. An increase in the taxes now

and, eventually, a decrease in their Social Security benefits.

[texshelters]

42. Right and what about

the deficit you feign to care about Mr. O'Donnell?

Peace,
Tex Shelters

[Bryn]

3. I agree with you here

I wanted to see what Alan had to say, but Lawrence went too far and didn't let Alan speak much. That was awful. I am a fan of O'Donnell, but tonight I didn't like it. Doh!

[mwb970]

37. He seemed obsessed.

I changed channels when he started laying into Grayson. There's a way to do what he was trying to do, and this wasn't it.

[texshelters]

43. O'Donnell is holding onto a myth about Obama

instead of defending the people like a real Democrat.

http://texshelters.wordpress.com/2010/12/08/it%E2%80%99s-time-for-the-obama-denial-to-end-and-anger-to-begin/

Peace,
Tex Shelters
http://texshelters.wordpress.com/2010/12/08/it%E2%80%99s-time-for-the-obama-denial-to-end-and-anger-to-begin/

[baldguy]

4. Where does he get the idea that income from capital gains is not longer income?

He should stop spouting GOP talking points.

[stillwaiting]

38. But he says he's a socialist which means it must be so!!

Defenders of capital gains are often socialists aren't they??

[DURHAM D]

5. Its writing episodes for the West Wing that gives him the extreme knowledge. nt

[ladjf]

6. O'Donnell's rant was the rudest and crazy attack I've ever seen on

TV. I don't know what is going on but this stuff needs to stop.

(Tweety was almost as rude to the Senator from Ohio)

[Supersedeas]

8. trying....very hard....to make a name for himself

[ladjf]

11. He was unprofessional and rude. If he keeps this up the name that

he makes for himself will be "crazy" Larry. nt

[ladjf]

12. He was unprofessional and rude. If he keeps this up the name that

he makes for himself will be "crazy" Larry. nt

[Justitia]

15. He was a COMPLETE ASS tonight! Talk about unprofessional. Grayson handled it well. -eom

[jefferson_dem]

7. Oh man, i'm going to have to check that out.

Lawrence is an arrogant schmuck, true. But he just may have a point this time.

[eleny]

9. Tonight, he ought to be the subject of his Rewrite segment

[nckjm]

13. It was absolutely stunning to watch

It was almost violent. I've seen Lawrence attack guests (several times) but tonight it was in a totally different league. I meant I thought he was going to jump through the camera and attack me...there was just such intense anger coming through. Just made me uncomfortable. Grayson handled it well...amazingly well. It took O'Donnell down several pegs in my book in terms of my respect for him. It was, IMO, just uncalled for. I would like to have seen Lawrence talk like that to Bernie Sanders! Also, he calmed it way down when he went from Alan to Arianna which made his attack on Alan seem all the more personal.

[southern_belle]

20. he sure did!

i wrote to his show with my complaint. At this point, i could care less if i ever saw his show again.

[myrna minx]

14. Now he's snarling about Pelosi.

Wow. I guess O'Donnell's role is being the administration's propaganda arm, which makes sense, he's a total beltway crony.

[provis99]

16. why is anyone surprised?

he's admitted many times in the past that he's a socialist, and hates liberals. So why be surprised when he attacks Grayson, one of the more well-known liberals?

[texshelters]

44. I was surprised by the unprofessinoal nature of the attack

and the out of control nature. I wasn't surprise by the substance.

Peace,
Tex Shelters

[Maraya1969]

17. He had a really bad day and behaved horribly but that does not make

him a horrible person. I like LO. I remember him tearing up while he was a guest on KO. He is just passionate and occasionally looses it. So do I.

[BzaDem]

19. I watched that segment. Good for Lawrence. Just because some people don't like hearing hard truths

doesn't mean they shouldn't be shouted from the rooftops.

Of all the income brackets, the one that gets hit most is the bottom most one. That never gets talked about by progressives who want to "fight," and I'm glad Lawrence is talking about it.

[mzmolly]

40. I enjoyed it as well.

Jane Hamshire lost the last remaining shred of cred she had. I have no idea why she gets any air time.

[jillan]

21. Going to watch right now. If it is as bad as you are saying, I'll be back asking for Lawrence's

email.

I have Grayson's back.

[Canuckistanian]

22. I never saw the show, but judging from the reactions here

It sounds like OD is Tweety on steroids when it comes to consistent positions.

[senseandsensibility]

23. He pulled a tweety

He was very emotional and unprofessional.

[Major Hogwash]

24. He told Grayson to act like an adult!!!

I couldn't believe it.
And then I realized Grayson is acting like a spoiled little kid, throwing a tantrum.

Grayson won't be there in a month - so what the fuck does he care about the unemployed getting their benefits?

[Ramulux]

28. So Lawrence's little meltdown...

was perfectly professional, but Alan Grayson's calm reasonable reply was childish? Why are you so angry at Grayson for telling Lawrence that this whole deal is bullshit? It never had to be this way, but somehow we are now in a bizarro situation where Lawrence can go mental on Grayson for standing up for the unemployed and lower income people and its totally reasonable. Where do you get this crap about Grayson not caring about the unemployed? He has fought for them since day 1 and has been the loudest critic of republicans obstructionism on this issue, but when he says that this deal is a bad deal for everyone including the unemployed somehow that means he doesn't care about the unemployed.

[BzaDem]

30. Because a) the whole deal isn't bullshit, and b) Grayson was making false statements to back up his

opinion.

In reality, Lawrence was the one standing up for the unemployed and lower income people. Grayson is the one who wants to kill the deal that will prevent lower income families from losing thousands of dollars, and the unemployed from getting their benefits.

It really doesn't matter if he has been "fighting for them since day 1" if in the end he votes to screw them.

[Major Hogwash]

33. It was great tv, I'll give him that much.

Grayson is only 1 Representative out of 345.
He's out of a job on December 31st.

He had better start thinking of someone other than himself when it comes to paying the bills.
The people who have had their unemployment benefits run out have nowhere else to go, no one else to turn to.

Is Grayson going to be Grinch this year?

His "take it or leave it" attitude is exactly what has lead us to this point.
He is being a damn prima donna for the tv, standing up for his principles.
But guess what?
You can't pay for groceries with principles!
And after this month, Grayson's history, he's out of a job, he can't affect what they do in Congress any more than we can.

Congress is not just 1 person.
So, if Grayson doesn't want to help the unemployed get their benefits, that's up to him.
What's he going to do, say it's not his fault when their bills come due next month?

I don't think Grayson is married.
Let me tell ya, being married will teach you real damn fast on how to compromise.
Because you have to compromise to determine who is going to get 2/3rds of the blankets and the sheets!!

Working for the people in Congress is all about the art of compromise.
Not jumping up and down demanding you get your way all of the time.
Grayson is one hell of a Congressman.

But, he's a lousy statesman.
He should compromise for the benefit of the people he says he cares so much for.
He doesn't have to worry about his reputation as a "deficit cutter", nobody is going to hold this against him in 2 years.

[lamp_shade]

36. He said exactly what I was thinking at the time. Lawrence disappoints me occasionally, but

not last night.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

25. And another member of the purity brigade is shoved aside.

:rofl:

[MrMickeysMom]

27. I missed it... hope it runs in political videos tomorrow...

I think it's getting more interesting by the hour, I do.

[dennis4868]

29. I like O'Donnel alot....

By the way, Grayson was wrong and Ezra Klein and the other experienced economist corrected Grayson. It was a good show tonight.

[dennis4868]

32. Arianna....

Did not back him up. As a matter of fact, Ezra Klein and the economist on the panel (who is anti wall street by the way) corrected Grayson and told him he is uninformed. Alot of liberals just can't admit that Obama did get alot in return on the tax cut deal... Every economist (even krugman) says that there are alot of good things that Obama got in return for tax cuts for the rich.

[stillrockin]

34. That's a load of crap.

I saw the show. O'Donnell came off as churlish and obsessed with selling Obama's plan. If you are under the impression that the deal is anything other than total capitulation, *you* are the one that is uninformed. O'Donnell's a corporate hack, just like Tweety and Joe.

[texshelters]

46. Sure, even jack got some beans for his cow

but that doesn't make it a good deal.

One simple example: the tax cut extension would be for two years and the unemployment extension would be for 13 months. How is that equal? That's not even including the BS "death tax" reduction.

Peace,
Tex Shelters

[Volaris]

35. Nope I'm not going to do it lol.....

I simply don't think I've been around here long enough (I.E., haven't earned the right yet)to set that kind of fire and incite that kind of rage. I will let this one go =)

[mzmolly]

39. I thought he was excellent. He aptly demonstrated that Jane Hamshire pulls facts out of her ass.

She wasn't even aware that the senate had a vote on the Obama tax cuts for the middle class.

Go Larry!

[Ramulux]

45. LOL

Jane Hamsher wasn't on this show.

[texshelters]

47. Hello?

This was about the "discussion" with Grayson, not O'Donnell in general. I usually like O'Donnell, but he came off as a raving lunatic here. Kind of like Limbaugh...

Peace,
Tex Shelters

[texshelters]

41. Well put, KR and muchos Kudos

Lawrence O'Donnell was an asshole here. He didn't let Grayson answer, he ambushed him, and he got on his high horse before he even understood Grayson's point. He clearly dislikes Grayson and was looking for a way to ambush him. In the meantime, O'Donnell comes across as an asshole.

You are correct when you point out that O'Donnell had an agenda and wasn't going to let any guest interfere with it.

Peace,
Tex Shelters
http://texshelters.wordpress.com/