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howard112211 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 11:41 AM
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It's idiotic to call hacking "cyber terrorism". There is not terror involved in operation payback.
Tearing up websites does not inflict terror on anyone. Call it "vandalism" or maybe "sabotage" if you have to. It is an attack on property, designed to cause monetary damage. If you want to cry "terrorism", please show me where someones life was threatened.

The lives of the Wikileaks activists, on the other hand, were actually threatened...
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 11:47 AM
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1. By the Patriot Act definition, anything that interferes with profit is economic terrorism
Edited on Thu Dec-09-10 11:47 AM by Catherina
It has specific provisions for financial terrorism and economic espionage. As far as the US is concerned, Wikileaks is worse than Bin Laden or any other boogieman they can point to.

You're right of course but our government isn't interested in justice, just profit and clamping down on free speech that exposes it. Rec'd
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 12:15 PM
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4. "What's in a word", eh?
I agree with what you said.
I might suggest that "anything that even OBJECTS TO profit" seem more apt.

You may remember the dire warnings so very many of us made when the Patriot Act and all its successive spawn were created, that the laws were aimed at us.

"They" are now calling anyone who objects to TSA assault, "domestic extremists".
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 01:38 PM
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9. You're right, "anything that even OBJECTS"
We're all Spartacus over and over again now.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 01:13 PM
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7. The PATRIOT Act needs to be appealed. But only Feingold opposed it...
Everyone else in DC, at that time, sold our fourth Amendment down the road.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 01:40 PM
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10. Feingold was a lone hero. I hope we see much of him politically one day.
The betrayals go way back. Why are the people who sold us down the river still in office?
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 11:48 AM
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2. I imagine the corporate fascists that rape us on a daily basis are terrified
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 11:56 AM
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3. "Terrorism" now means "offensive to U.S. policy." (nt)
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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 12:17 PM
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5. Operation Payback et al are practicing civil disobedience in support of 1st amendment rights
and government transparency.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 12:43 PM
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6. True - so I can post the SS number of everyone in the US online?
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:35 PM
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12. you don't have the means..
but knock yourself out anyway.
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:38 PM
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13. Taking down PayPal = identity theft?
Amazing the lengths some people will go to when they don't have a good argument.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 01:29 PM
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8. Kick/Rec n/t
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 01:59 PM
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11. I fear the SHAC 7 was the beginning of this slippery slope.
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