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Thu Dec-09-10 12:57 PM
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House Dems Vote NO CONFIDENCE In Obama TAX Plan |
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:smoke: " House Democrats voted in a private meeting this morning to reject the tax cut plan President Obama negotiated with the GOP.
By voice vote, Democrats agreed to a non-binding resolution, introduced by Rep. Peter DeFazio (D-OR), not to bring up the Obama plan in its current form.
A House Democratic aide characterized the rebuke as a "vote of no-confidence" in the package -- a ratification of the anger Dems expressed to Vice President Joe Biden at a meeting yesterday evening about the details of the plan and the fact that House Democrats were closed out of the negotiations.
The vote itself does not scuttle the deal, which most Dems predict will pass with overwhelming support from House Republicans, and a small but significant amount of support from Dems. However, if Speaker Nancy Pelosi refuses to bring the bill to the floor, the calculus changes dramatically. Thus far, Pelosi has made no indication that she plans to thwart the President.
Update: House Speaker Nancy Pelosi issued the following statement following the vote:
House Democrats share the President's commitment to providing the middle class with a tax cut to grow the economy and create jobs. The House passed a bill last week to provide tax cuts for all Americans but not a bonus tax cut to millionaires and billionaires. The extra tax cut for the top 3 percent does not create jobs and increases the deficit. Unfortunately, Senate Republicans blocked the bill from being approved by the Senate. In the Caucus today, House Democrats supported a resolution to reject the Senate Republican tax provisions as currently written.
We will continue discussions with the President and our Democratic and Republican colleagues in the days ahead to improve the proposal before it comes to the House floor for a vote.
Democratic priorities remain clear: to provide a tax cut for working families, to create jobs and economic growth, to assist millions of our fellow Americans who have lost their jobs through no fault of their own, and to do this in a fiscally sound way."
<http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/12/house-dems-vote-no-confidence-in-obama-tax-plan.php?ref=fpa>
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Thu Dec-09-10 12:58 PM
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1. Then it's time to do their fucking jobs and put together a better deal |
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And one that can actually pass.
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Thu Dec-09-10 01:09 PM
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9. Here is the catch 22, repukes are adamant that a deal is a deal & any attempt to make changes won't |
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Thu Dec-09-10 01:13 PM
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16. What about the 24 other months during which time there was not a deal? |
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They didn't do shit about it then, did they?
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Thu Dec-09-10 01:28 PM
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18. I agree. This tax cut deal smells shady at best. |
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Thu Dec-09-10 01:52 PM
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24. None can pass the Senate unless it is a Republican Bill |
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Thu Dec-09-10 04:40 PM
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27. That's kind of the point. |
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Obama got a deal, which is immediately more than any of them got or were ever going to get. For them to bitch about said deal is disingenuous at best.
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Thu Dec-09-10 01:00 PM
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2. Political posturing to get repubs to vote with Obama. Games, and more games. |
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Does anyone really believe dems are going play chicken with unemployment???? Or that they are going to risk DADT????
This is for re-election credentials which is what most of these politicians care about, think about and focus on year round.
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Thu Dec-09-10 01:00 PM
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3. I applaud those House Democrats for standing up. |
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These Democrats are showing the spine I wish Obama had.
Recommended.
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Thu Dec-09-10 01:11 PM
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13. Putting on a show to give a placebo effect to the those screaming on the left. |
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We shall see what happens.
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Thu Dec-09-10 01:50 PM
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23. Yes "screaming" about defunding social security and defunding the tax coffers during a recession. |
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:eyes: Boy those lefties are crazy! What exactly is worth screaming about if destroying our public infrastructure doesn't do it for you? Does Obama need to co-sign putting infants and the elderly through woodchoppers personally before you get outraged? I guess the quiet malnutrition and immiseration of Americans is worth little more than a big old shrug.
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Thu Dec-09-10 01:01 PM
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4. Let's see what Nancy does. Nt |
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Thu Dec-09-10 01:01 PM
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Getting rid of bad ideas is the first step.
Leadership should have been the first step, but that seems to be emerging late in the game.
If the former sheep around me are an indication, that status quo is finally being questioned.
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Thu Dec-09-10 01:02 PM
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Thu Dec-09-10 01:03 PM
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7. "overwhelming support from Republicans, and a small but significant amount of support from Dems." |
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That about sums it up. This guy simply isn't on our side.
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Thu Dec-09-10 01:07 PM
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Edited on Thu Dec-09-10 01:08 PM by EmeraldCityGrl
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Thu Dec-09-10 01:07 PM
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8. Does anyone have a phone number for Nancy Pelosi's office? |
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I'd like to make a call in support of Pelosi but can't find a number.
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Thu Dec-09-10 01:11 PM
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Thu Dec-09-10 01:10 PM
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11. Take this tax plan and shove it! |
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Thu Dec-09-10 01:20 PM
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Let the unemployed suffer!! Let everyone's taxes go up!!! DU doesn't care cuz they're pissed at Obama - Yipee!!!!
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Thu Dec-09-10 01:32 PM
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19. Your bullshit false choice retort will not work on me. |
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Thu Dec-09-10 01:35 PM
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21. Nothing false about it cupcake |
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Politics aint beanbag. If you think this is tough, just wait until the pukes are in charge of the house and our senate majority shrinks.
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Thu Dec-09-10 04:34 PM
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26. You obviously don't care about the 99ers. Your talking point has a fatal flaw |
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which only highlights your hypocrisy.
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Thu Dec-09-10 01:11 PM
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12. We just need to strip out the Supply Side component-- Cash for Hoarders. |
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All our Democrats need to do is strip the Supply-Side Economics crap of tax cuts for the already ultra-rich from the bill.
We all know supply side economics, aka Trickle Down (waiting since the 80's while most of our wages have declined), has failed. It crashed our whole economy.
We want Democratic demand-side economics again. That is most pragmatic. Put us to work repairing our infrastructure allowed to decay by Republicans who needed to finance the Bush Wars, and we will spend those wages right away, keeping our local economies afloat.
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Thu Dec-09-10 01:13 PM
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Good luck getting a bill passed now that's better than Obama's.
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Thu Dec-09-10 01:33 PM
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20. I've already emailed my rep and urged him to vote for the deal |
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w/o change. Then I called the local office and was told that their calls were running 3:1 in favor of the deal as presented.
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Thu Dec-09-10 01:44 PM
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22. The lines are being drawn... |
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and it's about freakin time!!!
I stand with Bernie Sanders, Alan Grayson & Anthony Weiner along with anyone else that wishes to uphold democratic principles.
Who will stand with Boner, McConell and the rest of the sociopaths????
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Thu Dec-09-10 01:54 PM
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25. Good. Time for Democrats to show the president how to be one. |
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