DADT is done FAILED. Unbelievable

[NotThisTime]

[Xicano]

1. Watching it now on CNN

Yes it just failed..

[alsame]

Manchin, Murkowski and Scott Brown were 'no' votes. nt

[Xicano]

15. Sickening that we still live in a world of inequality

I don't know what else to say alsame, its so sad and frustrating..

[GSLevel9]

22. I wouldn't use the word "inequality", how about "inhumanity"? Nt

[Xicano]

53. Agreed... +10

n/t

[alsame]

25. A pox on all their houses. I am just full of contempt for the

Senate.

[lise]

24. who were

the other Dems who voted against this?

Or even better, can someone post the complete Roll Call yeas and nays on this?

They're talking about this on C-span 2 right now.

[Autumn]

2. I'm so sorry. My heart is

breaking. I loath those pathetic leeching creatures. I hate them all.

[NotThisTime]

3. Bastards... that's a nice way to refer to them

[FreeState]

4. Can they bring it up again this year? n/t

[progressoid]

5. Not unbelievable.

Frankly, I would have been shocked if it passed.



But then again, my wife says I always the the glass half empty.

[AlabamaLibrul]

6. Completely believable, completely predictable. Sorry. n/t

[jtuck004]

7. Bigots 1. America - well, it's hard to calculate the loss. n/t

[robinlynne]

8. well put.

[Supersedeas]

18. those leading the charge will be remembered...John McCain's victory will not be remembered kindly

[Individualist]

9. Sickening and inexcusable.

[David Zephyr]

10. This was all a pre-rehearsed charade with the outcome known before the cameras came on.

"We tried." That's what I've expected to hear and now we will hear it.

Just an orchestrated theater with the final act well-rehearsed.

They played everyone perfectly.

And now the curtain falls.

[Xicano]

11. Here's a USA Today article

Senate rejects attempt to debate 'don't ask, don't tell' repeal


The Senate has failed to get past a roadblock on a bill that would repeal the policy banning gay men and lesbians from serving openly in the military.

The procedural vote failed, 57-40. Sixty votes were needed to move forward.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., forced today's vote because he said he was tired of Republicans playing games. "Discrimination has never served America well," he said, adding the policy known as "don't ask, don't tell" hurts morale.



http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2010/12/senate-gays-in-military-/1

[CTyankee]

12. Injustice piled on injustice!

And what is the story with Scott Brown? The Tea Party can't be THAT strong in MA.

[Hawkeye-X]

52. The Tea Party in MA will collapse

due to infighting on how they want the R's to move forward.

So will all the national Tea Party a-holes.

Hawkeye-X

[Jakes Progress]

13. dupe

[Jakes Progress]

14. Unbelievable but not un-foretold.

Show me where there was ever any evidence that this congress and this administration would do the right thing.

[dhill926]

16. I'm so sorry.......

this country is off the fucking rails.....and in truth, has been for a long, long time.

[RagAss]

17. Obama is LBJ - 1967

[mcar]

43. This was the Senate - not Obama

Let's place the blame where it's due. Obama was calling senators this week urging them to vote for repeal.

This is a Senate failure. Can we please stop blaming everything that happens on the President?

[RagAss]

49. Yes...exactly right....like LBJ - 1967.. that was my point.

[mcar]

65. OK. Sorry about that

I'm a bit overloaded on the anti-Obama stuff around here this week.

[dgibby]

19. This was just a procedural vote.

It will come up again, probably tomorrow.

[patrice]

20. Misery.

[Taverner]

21. Think it's punishment?

:shrug:

[patrice]

27. It's being used as leverage on the Tax Cut deal. nt

[Taverner]

29. Nice. Fucking nice.

[patrice]

38. Dream is in the same position now, only worse, because it got tabled & we CAN

"thank" the House for some of how this played out, for handing the Republicans that lever with that vote on the extending the MC Tax Cuts a couple of weeks ago & the Senate for being afraid to be seen as "SOCIALISTS" and messing around with extension of UI.

And any party rank and file who didn't do everything they could for both repeal of DADT and passing the Dream Act, because the Republicans are now holding one hostage to the other and both of them hostage to the Tax Cut Deal.

[Swamp Rat]

32. Ah, so give the rich all our money or else NO CIVIL RIGHTS FOR YOU!

[Cali_Democrat]

33. They are also using the unemployed and middle class as leverage

Although I think hostages would be a more appropriate word.

[patrice]

40. Not to mention the entire economy being held hostage by the Banksters. nt

[patrice]

42. Don't you think the simplest thing to de-couple all of this would be to let Bush Tax Cuts sunset,

then do battle on each one of these other issues ONE at a time?

[Cali_Democrat]

61. Yes. n/t

[patrice]

63. That way we could actually see who's who and what's what. nt

[donco6]

45. There was more on the table than Unemployment Insurance.

Just not spelled out in print.

[CrownPrinceBandar]

23. Particularly unsurprising, really.........

even more so that Manchin went against his party and voted no. Way to be a team player there, Joe.

[AngryAmish]

26. Why was it brought up if Reid didn't have the votes?

Why couldn't Reid kick some balls and get this done? crimoney

[Dappleganger]

28. Another broken promise.

I really had hopes that it would go through, but it's the same old same old, isn't it?

[patrice]

30. BTW: quite believable, once the Tax Cut deal went the way it did.

[dkofos]

31. I's time for ALL gays and lesbians in the military to come out.

Force them to deal with there "problem"

[Matariki]

37. Or everyone in the military to QUIT.

that would at least end our illegal wars.

[TorchTheWitch]

34. For God's Sake! The military even wanted it pitched out!

This is so damn disgusting.

[patrice]

46. What are the Marines saying these days? They were a hold out last time I saw anything about them.

They have a lot of emotional pull, not so "official", but powerful nonetheless.

[spanone]

35. 56 democrats and one republican voted for it....every democrat

[alsame]

39. No, Manchin also voted no. nt

[patrice]

54. All of the Democrats? - AWESOME!

[Better Believe It]

56. You only need 51 votes to pass it. Keep the Senate in session and keep the debate going on DADT

Don't withdraw the bill.

[patrice]

59. Agree. And failing that, sunset the Tax Cuts and do these other issues one at a time. nt

[Better Believe It]

36. Did they vote against repealing DADT or against ending debate (cloture) on DADT?

If they did not vote to end debate, let the debate continue in earnest!

Senate Reid can halt the so-called "two-track" procedure and should not withdraw the DADT repeal bill.

Democrats have the power to keep the bill before the Senate without allowing any other business on the floor until 60 votes for cloture are achieved.

Don't let President Obama's tax cut bill come up for discussion until 60 votes to end debate on DADT are achieved.

Now, what's so difficult about that?

[BzaDem]

41. They voted against invoking cloture on the motion to proceed to the bill. Even worse. n/t

[Better Believe It]

51. Don't withdraw the bill. Don't end the debate. Don't take up the tax bill until you get cloture.

This is not rocket science.

If Senator Reid doesn't have the 60 votes to "end the debate" the first time around keep the bill before the Senate until they have the votes.

Let the Obama/Republican tax cut bill twist in the wind at least until 60 cloture votes for DADT repeal are obtained.

Senator Reid can do that.

[BzaDem]

60. They can't keep it before the Senate after January. Apparently with the likely filibusters on the

motion to proceed, the cloture motion, the 3 motions required to instruct conferees, the conference itself, and on the conference report, it would go past January even if they worked through Christmas.

[Lucky 13]

44. This can't be true! Everyone on DU told me that this promise would be kept!

It isn't?! How completely shocking.

[donco6]

50. And that we should drop the lawsuit, because it HAD to be in Congress!

Just HAD to.

Fuckers.

[Lucky 13]

58. I know. Scumbags.

I'm not at all shocked. I've come to anticipate it.

But I suppose I deserve this "punishment".

[skipos]

47. Roll call? Which Ds voted against and Rs for? nt

[closeupready]

48. Of course. Why is this a surprise?

Obama did not support repealing it. So no, it was never going to happen.

[donco6]

55. I predicted both DADT and DREAM would fail. And was vilified.

And golly - here we are!

[patrice]

57. I KNOW they are connected, but I thought repeal of DADT would make it when Lieberman stepped up

[donco6]

62. I had tucked a tiny little seed of hope down inside at that.

But even that's crushed now.

I just fucking give up. I may just stick to trying to improve what little corner of the world I can improve with my own money and time. Political action is meaningless.

[patrice]

64. I'm considering that I should stop looking at the big picture and just concentrate on each issue

at hand.