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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 11:38 PM
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How will Neoconservatism present itself in 2008?
The People have rejected Neoconservatism, but we all know that it won't just drop dead.

How do you think Neoconservatism will present itself in the next election and try to sneak into the administration of the next President?
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 11:46 PM
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1. Champions of the economy.
Edited on Fri May-25-07 11:47 PM by TahitiNut
Deregulate. Tax reductions (for the rich). Make Social Security more 'personal' and secure. Tax reductions (for the corporations). More work visas for non-voting labor. Tax reductions (for the heirs).
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Monticus Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 11:47 PM
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2. Reply with ridicule
We need a response that not only belittles the neocon philosophy, but ridicules it as if it were the playground taunt that it is.

Period.

Sick of being labeled the pussy because I DON'T see a bogeyman behind every closet door.
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poverlay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 11:56 PM
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7. BEHIND You! WHat's ThaT??? Just kidding. I'd like to second Monticus' strategy and
say: welcome to DU!
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 11:48 PM
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3. It'll be paleoconservativism by then.
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Monticus Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 12:16 AM
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9. Cheers, poverlay...
have a safe an, at an appropriate moment, an introspective Memorial Day.

Monticus
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 11:54 PM
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4. Kind of like a dead squirrel in the middle of the road ...
... and, needless to say, stinkin' to high heaven.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 07:24 AM
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22. I thought that was a skunk. n/t
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gobblechops Donating Member (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 11:55 PM
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5. same way they always do
tax breaks for the rich,the boogie man,intolerance the fact this message seems to work so well makes me sad for this country.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 11:55 PM
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6. Through it's inbred cousin, neoliberalism
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Californian Dreamer Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 11:59 PM
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8. Neoliberalism
Or more likely some other name for the same thing... if republicans are out of power it will arise in whatever party is. That's the nature of fascism: it's an infection that targets where ever power exists. I'd say it already has a strong foothold in the democratic party, unfortunately.

I still have hope we can beat it down, take it out of power in both the Republican and Democratic parties, and anywhere else it hides. But even then, it will never be gone completely, so we have to keep at it. Eternal vigilance, and all that. :)
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 12:41 AM
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10. "...it's an infection that targets where ever power exists."
Nice!
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Steepler0t Donating Member (348 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 02:50 AM
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15. Well put
I have observed this "creep" in our culture for years now, in more ways then just politics too.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 07:06 AM
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21. Welcome to DU Californian Dreamer...
:hi:
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 01:07 AM
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11. Neocons
If Bush is impeached, the neocons will skulk, retreat and eventually reemerge with a different name and philosophy, but the same post-WWII Republican formula. Only problem is America's strength and position will have shrunk so dramatically they will be able to exert little influence on the world stage.
When you consider that so many players in the current administration came up in the Watergate/Nixon years, it makes you wonder which will emerge in the next Republican revolution.
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 03:15 AM
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16. Monica and Kyle
the next face of Republicanism in America. Now there's a scary image for ya.
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 01:15 AM
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12. In the dulcet tones, fine bone structure, and world-class hair
of Mitt "The Mother of all Flip-Floppers" Romney, the Mormon from Massachusssets. Don't count no chickens yet. Neoconservatism with a human face. (Rather a level playing field if he ends up against Obama - triangulation with a human face - and a similarly sticky religious situation by inheritance.)
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 09:03 AM
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25. How is Obama "triangulation"? Maybe he is who he is, and believes what he believes.
I have not seen any evidence that his positions are not genuine. I am sickened to hear him compared to a completely manufactured, calculated creation like Mittens.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 01:24 AM
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13. wearing the mythological skin of Ronald Raygun
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 01:32 AM
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14. The ends justify the means
remember that...
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 08:51 AM
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23. better yet . . .
. . . the ends justify the meanies.
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 05:43 AM
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17. It won't.
It'll lie low for a while, to count it's lucre, and let us think we defeated it, only to rear later, in a different disguise.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 05:54 AM
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18. As a couple of
others have stated, the disease will continue to mutate, and will present itself as the neo-liberal. The neo-liberal will attempt to fool us by pointing out the he/she used to be a liberal in the good old days, and still shares most of the values that define the democratic party. But he/she will say that he/she has very real concerns about our national defense. The neo-liberal will say he/she is deeply troubled by the war in Iraq, but that we shouldn't be discussing how we got into that mess, but rather, focus on how we can make it "safe" for us to eventually withdraw.

The neo-liberal is willing to tell any lie to your face, with a great big smile on his/her face. The neo-liberal will shake your hand, pat you on the back, and feign interest in your opinion. The neo-liberal is a parasite that will do anything that he/she thinks will give him/her access to the bowels of government power in Washington, DC.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 06:19 AM
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19. "Smiling Faces Sometimes"
Smiling faces sometimes pretend to be your friend
Smiling faces show no traces of the evil that lurks within
Smiling faces, smiling faces sometimes
They don't tell the truth uh
Smiling faces, smiling faces
Tell lies and I got proof
The truth is in the eyes
Cause the eyes don't lie, amen

Remember a smile is just
A frown turned upside down
My friend let me tell you
Smiling faces, smiling faces sometimes
They don't tell the truth, uh
Smiling faces, smiling faces
Tell lies and I got proof

Beware, beware of the handshake
That hides the snake
I'm telling you beware
Beware of the pat on the back
It just might hold you back
Jealousy (jealousy)
Misery (misery)
Envy I tell you, you can't see behind smiling faces
Smiling faces sometimes they don't tell the truth
Smiling faces, smiling faces
Tell lies and I got proof
Smiling faces, smiling faces sometimes
They don't tell the truth
Smiling faces, smiling faces
Tell lies and I got proof
(Smiling faces, smiling faces sometimes)
(Smiling faces, smiling faces sometimes)

I'm telling you beware, beware of the handshake
That hides the snake
Listen to me now, beware
Beware of that pat on the back
It just might hold you back
Smiling faces, smiling faces sometimes
They don't tell the truth
Smiling faces, smiling faces
Tell lies and I got proof
Your enemy won't do you no harm
Cause you'll know where he's coming from
Don't let the handshake and the smile fool ya
Take my advice I'm only try' to school ya

- The Temptations



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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 06:59 AM
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20. Yep.
I used to have a version by the Undisputed Truth. Good song. And it's true.
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 08:52 AM
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24. They will hide in the background and do their dirty work in secret
as always.
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 09:16 AM
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26. So far....
they seem unable to get that the way they've been presenting themselves is no longer selling. Look at the Republican debates.

I predict they won't do much that's new.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 09:17 AM
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27. It will be THEIR IDEA that we get out of Iraq. Cutting the nuts off the nutless democrats.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 09:21 AM
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28. Follow the Newt Gringrich. He is reinventing himself as a newer
more people friendly neo-con. I recently read an interview with him where he presented himself as an environmentalist, neo-con style. Of course you and I know he's as big a liar as the rest of them, however, many probably will fall for his promises just like they did for Ralph Nader back in 2000. After the first debate, where none of the candidates could address the real issues that people are concerned about, you can be sure they are skimming the polls, focus groups and other means of testing the voters to reinvent themselves.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 09:23 AM
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29. Just read AEI's papers.
That should tell you everything you need to know.
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SergeyDovlatov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 09:58 AM
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30. People rejected neoconservativism? ... I will believe it when I see it
Looking at republican debates and subsequent scientific polling, more of the same guys are leading the pack.
Also, I think unless Kucinich wins, neocons will find the way into dem administration and push for more internationalism, spreading democracy and freedom around the world.
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