2 US soldiers beheaded in Iraq (link contains GRAPHIC photos)

[Dangerman]

Welcome to the Post-Saddam "free" Iraq.

This is marked as part of the legacy of George W. Bush:
http://theseoultimes.com/ST/?url=/ST/db/read.php?idx=5362

[GreenPartyVoter]

1. :^(

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

2. Not the ones they are searching for

according to the article. I find these two paragraphs from the article quite telling--apparently the rest of the world knows who to blame for this war:

t is so sad indeed.. few years ago the US was a friendly country, now, it is the most hated all over the world due to its stupid administration. I feel sorry for America indeed..!!

I urge the US army to do as that brave man U.S. Army 1st Lieutenant Ehren K. Watada who stepped forward as the first commissioned officer to publicly refuse deployment to the Iraq War and occupation. He faces court martial and up to 6 years imprisonment for refusing to deploy and for speaking out against a war that he believes is illegal.

[venable]

3. the american public

will be shielded from this reality, wrongly.

people need to know, as difficult as it might be.

[NightWatcher]

4. I just cant click on the link, not today

This is why we should not torture. We have no right to get outraged when this happens to our troops. The only people that we can rage against are the people that legalized torture (rummy, dick, gonzo).

[no_hypocrisy]

5. Oh, Jesus!!

[snappyturtle]

6. OMG! So sad.....more madness. I guess this tragedy is the

Iraqi response to the war funding.

[rodeodance]

7. are these NEW?--I can not tell by reading the article

[stillcool]

16. It is interesting how the author...

did not add any kind of date to when, and from who...he received these images...leaving it impossible to know. Also makes me wonder what kind of uniforms private contractors where? By the way, that article you posted the other day about the supplies not getting through is stuck in the front of my brain.

[sanskritwarrior]

40. I'm curious

what article about supplies? I think I would have heard something from all my friends if the supply situation was bad........

[stillcool]

45. here's the memo...

and here's a couple of posts regarding the supply line...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=972638&mesg_id=972638

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x972797

[sanskritwarrior]

48. Well I'm not calling shenanigans but there is a problem or two with

this memo......

the letterhead is wrong, the embassy has a particular letterhead even for a memo.......

the eagle? What the hell is that, I have never seen a DOD, or DOS memo with an eagle like that on it. Can someone find other memo's with that eagle at the top?

the date format, event he DOS uses the DOD date format in country. The format is ddmmmyy example: 22Jul03, I find it hard to believe the memo is real with that format on it.

Finally the memo talks about food delays from convoys??? If convoys were being interdicted then icasualties would see a lot more US deaths from areas where the majority of food comes into country.........Up north.

A vast majority of our food stuffs in Iraq come through the Zakho gate in Northern Iraq and straight down the MSR into Mosul, bayji, Tikrit and Baghdad. Icasualties shows no such uptick in casualties in the main food supply corridor, nor the secondary food supply corridors out of Kuwait or the Jordanian border. In fact most casualties at icasualties are occuring in Baghdad, Diyala (on the Iranian border) and in Babil (south of Baghdad).......There are many routes around Babil and diyala would play no part in a food supply mission..........

I'm not going to say the memo is fake, but there are some severe problems with it, as well as its message........I haven't heard anything from friends in Iraq, and I'm pretty sure some soldier home on leave would have talked about this already........

I'll email some buddies and ask some questions, but it is hard to believe given the way food is actually moved around in Iraq......

[peacebaby3]

46. sanskritwarrior, I know what this DUer is talking about. It was a story that

came out this week...probably in the last couple of days about how the Marines were not getting a lot of the supplies they were requesting.

Here's a thread about it on DU, but I saw it on Yahoo news.

<http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=966927>

[Rosa Luxemburg]

8. just what Bush ordered

[HereSince1628]

11. So he said "Bring it on" and they did. And it was not good

And so his-story waits to be rewritten.

[proud2BlibKansan]

9. What is the point?

These kinds of pictures only incite the war mongers and give them more ammunition to continue the war on terror!

Why post this shit?

[rodeodance]

10. I think it will make bushco's more 'resolved". They do not think of

the 'why'--------what Paul spoke of- our policies over the world last 50 or so years (or more).

[proud2BlibKansan]

Exactly

This shit shouldn't be tolerated on this board.

[Truth2Tell]

39. No, it should be on NBC

As long as the American people are sheilded from the realities of war, we will continue to wage it.

[liberal renegade]

14. Maybe it does incite the war mongers

but it also incites the anti war mongers. This can all be blamed on Bush and all his rabid right wing ass kissers. It lays squarely on his shoulders....

[proud2BlibKansan]

18. Oh just like that vote in Congress this week makes bush look bad?

Sure.

[liberal renegade]

26. who started the fucking war?

The CIC, that's fucking who. It's his fucking fault!

[proud2BlibKansan]

28. Tell that to the media

[lonestarnot]

23. Antiwarmongers.

[mudesi]

35. Because it's the truth

War is hell. Perhaps if more people realized that before 2003, it wouldn't have had so much support. Americans seem to have this idea that the world resembles a Schwarzenegger movie or an episode of "24".

[leftchick]

12. I guess this is the only thing the US does not do to Iraqis

although I suppose air strikes cause beheadings now and again. This is tragic. Bring them home!

[rodeodance]

13. I wonder if I was a parent if I would want to see these?

[liberal renegade]

15. you have to wonder?

[deutsey]

17. How reliable is the Seoul Times?

I don't have any trouble believing this horror is true, but I'd like to know how trustworthy this site is. Anyone know?

[Philosoraptor]

19. How reliable is the New York Times?

[deutsey]

27. I take it then that the Seoul Times isn't very reputable?

I don't read the NYT after they distorted the numbers at protests and were used by the Bush junta to bolster their WMD crap.

So I should see the Seoul Times the same way? :shrug:

[seemslikeadream]

20. Mach 2004 - warning graphic

yes things have improved haven't they?

[Schema Thing]

21. context?

what am I seeing there?

[seemslikeadream]

24. High pay -- and high risks -- for contractors in Iraq

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/04/01/iraq.contractor/

[peacebaby3]

22. This is old information. This looks like stills from the video of Tucker and

Menchaca who were brutally tortured, murdered and beheaded.

The Seoul Times is nearly a year late with this information.

I pray that their families never have to see this.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

25. Shame On You.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

31. What for? There was a warning.

If you clicked, you did so in full knowledge of what it was.

[mudesi]

36. You don't like the idea of a department of peace

Yet you balk at this?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

37. Yes.

Holding two separate opinions on two completely separate topics is something I have no problem with.

Not sure why you are dragging the other topic into a completely different thread except to be needlessly provocative.

Objecting to using pictures such as this for petty misguided reasons has nothing to do with thinking that kucinich's platform of having a department of peace is extremely silly and easily mocked on large scale.

[mudesi]

42. Get help.

Seriously.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

43. Grow Up.

Seriously.

[piesRsquare]

29. Dear God, those poor men!

What those soldiers must have endured--good God, the suffering! Those poor men! How absolutely horrible! :cry:

[judaspriestess]

30. what horrible photos

but in all honesty these are photos the country should be allowed to see. These are the realities of war, Have at it America.

*sigh*

[Selatius]

32. War is necessarily a brutal endeavor with brutal consequences.

If people wish to support war, they must be made aware of the true brutality war can bring to us all. Maybe if people understood war the same way Europeans now understand war, so many would not have bought into Bush's lies.

[laylah]

33. I cannot click...

however, may they RIP. Furthermore, may God/dess, Yaweh, Mohammad, Jehovah, and all the other dieties, forgive *dumbass and his minions because I know I cannot!

[AzDar]

34. That is simply horrific... and should be required viewing in every U. S. home.

How do you like your 'War President', now, assholes?

[sanskritwarrior]

41. Since this is from a year ago

I assume most people know about this incident.......

[OzarkDem]

38. Thanks, Dem leaders in Congress

You didn't want to play hardball and hurt anyone's feelings in order to end this war.

So from now on, we'll be placing this at your doorstep as well as Bush's.

Let us know when you're ready to get serious about ending this mess. In the meantime, we'll be looking for your replacements.

[theHandpuppet]

44. Jeezus H Christ when are we getting out of there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What will it take to stop this madness???

[Dangerman]

47. Kick