Get ready folks--we've been played like fiddles

[Horse with no Name]

I just posted this elsewhere but these are my thoughts.
Nothing is done in the Republican Party without aforethought and scheming.
My thoughts on this? This weak crop of Republicans was put out there as sacrificial lambs so that they could figure out what the people want from their candidate. After these guys have been beat up and made irrelevant, a new candidate will be brought forth that will be palatable to the Republicans who will be so grateful NOT to have to vote for one of these folks that whatever the flaws of that candidate are will be easy to spin and dismiss.
I mean seriously? The frontrunners of the Republicans are a warmonger, a Mormon, and a flawed Mayor.
After much thought, they can't be serious. They aren't THAT stupid. They aren't going to waste a serious candidate this early.
Their party loves a fairy tale. Their White Knight hasn't emerged from the shadows yet.
What we are going to see in the Fall is a serious Republican candidate emerge from the shadows that has a "plan" that WILL be implemented by the Bush administration. A timetable will be attached and the NEW candidate (whoever he is) will take the lead of the Republican party.
What has just happened here is that many feel the Dems bought some of this war by not standing up.
It is a horse race now to see who emerges with the plan to stop the war. Whoever does that will, in the end, get the keys to the kingdom.
The Democrats were entrusted to stop the war. The public will have no loyalty because they didn't try hard enough.

Our present campaigns shouldn't waste too much fire on the current crop of candidates. They are just clay ducks put out there MEANT to be shot at.

[Clark2008]

1. That will be Fred Thompson.

He's being groomed.

[Horse with no Name]

4. I actually think Fred Thompson is just a teaser

To keep reminding the Republicans that there is something better out there. The promise of hope.
I don't think Thompson will get the nomination because of his illness.
Despite the attractiveness, he is a still a man with cancer and puts the emphasis on the VP way too much.
After Cheney, I don't think people want to think about another STRONG VP running the show.

[Berry Cool]

21. But Fred Thompson is not ill.

He is not a man with cancer, he is a man who has recovered from cancer. He will never be cured but he is no more in danger of dying from it than he is of dying from anything else in this world. Thus, he is like everyone else in that sense and that places no more emphasis on the VP than any other candidate would.

I'm not trying to beat the drum for him as a candidate, and it's true that public misperception can kill anyone's chances. If the public misperceives of Thompson as someone who could keel over dead any day, that could be a problem for his electability. But the fact is, he's not any more "ill" than Giuliani, who has also survived cancer.

Why the difference in perception between the two? I'm really curious now. Why do people think of Giuliani as a normal healthy guy, and of Thompson as "ill" and especially likely to die?

[TwilightGardener]

28. Two different types of cancer--Fred HAS cancer--it's in his blood and lymph--

it's a slow growing type and thus cannot be eradicated. Remission is not cure. Rudy had prostate cancer. It was excised, the tumor/cells are not there. Gone. Prostate cancer is very curable. The type of lymphoma that Fred has is not. It's that simple.

[Berry Cool]

30. It's not that simple.

The mere fact that a cancer is in remission but cannot be eradicated does not mean that the person is "ill." From what I understand, Thompson has as normal a life expectancy as anyone else, due to the nature of his lymphoma.

[Bitwit1234]

23. Have you seen CNN

they have an article...FANS want Fred Thompson to run...what fans, mostly everybody I know stopped watching once Fred Thompson took over as the DA. he stinks..he looks mad as hell all the time and like a bulldog..Who would want that as a president.....

[TwilightGardener]

29. Yep--he's running purely on image and personality, not qualifications or substance--

not that that has ever stopped GOPers before. LOL!

[ClassWarrior]

2. Yes, they are quite simply brilliant, super-human evil geniuses.

And we should all just give up in the face of their geniusness.

:eyes:

NGU.

[Horse with no Name]

5. "I" never said to give up

But the candidates would be foolish to waste thousands of dollars in campaigns against these guys.
I don't think they are for real.

[ClassWarrior]

9. Words have meanings well beyond...

...their individual definitions.

NGU.

[Horse with no Name]

11. As someone I have always respected here

Why don't you clue me in on what I mean since you know better than I do?

[ClassWarrior]

18. It doesn't have to be intentional.

But why imbue the enemy with all kinds of powers beyond what's likely they have? The only thing that does is make our side feel powerless and helpless. And that's amplified by the fact that the comment's primary audience is our side.

I'm sure you're just fighting back in your own way. But please read "The Art of War" by Sun Tsu. We need to fight more intelligently.

NGU.

[L. Coyote]

3. CHENEY is waiting until the last minute to avert criticism.

Just like when he became the VP nominee.

[Warpy]

6. They're not going to waste a serious candidate at all,

not this time. Their plan is to stick some hapless Democrat with the inevitable conclusion to all their bad policies, blame the Democrat, then run Jebbie as lord and savior in 2012.

They're hoping for Senator Clinton. That way, they can blame both Democrats and women for her conservatism being unequal to the challenges posed by their own bad policies.

[Horse with no Name]

10. Very possible Warpy.

But these candidates are not for real. They can't win. And they know that so you have to wonder why.
Yours is a very good scenario as well.

[CrispyQ]

25. And,

if Clinton wins, they will tell us to just shut up about election fraud. Very convenient.

[annabanana]

7. So.. Who do you think would be their "white knight"?

Besides the obvious Newtie & that guy who plays a principled DA on TV. . .

[Horse with no Name]

12. I am not really familar with their Governors and such

So I am not really sure.
I just think the ones out there now aren't viable so the next logical question is why are they there?

[Cleita]

8. I hear the rumor that Newtie is waiting in the wings.

However, I think the Mormon is doing okay. He's rather Reaganesque and reasonably good looking. If there is any candidate for the Dems to worry about it's Mitt Romney.

[Horse with no Name]

15. I keep hearing waves of

"Newt will run if needed"?
I mean, seriously, if needed for WHAT?:scared:

[lonestarnot]

13. And that is when Al will save the day and pick Dennis as his running mate.

[Horse with no Name]

17. A girl can dream

:loveya:

[lonestarnot]

19. Yes she can. And it's free too, just like freedom.

[Jim__]

14. I'm not sure.

If any of the 3 top puke candidates wins the nomination, the puke party and their media echo chamber will unite behind the candidate. John McCain is a legitimate war hero. Mitt Romney can be pushed as a business man and a self-made millionaire. Giuliani as a 9/11 hero, an crime fighter who turned around NYC.

I think the real strenght of the pukes is their ability to attack any democratic candidate. Al Gore, with 100 times the qualifications of bush, was called a serial liar. They made up lies that they claimed Al Gore told and the media parroted the puke charges. John Keryy a much-decorated war hero had his service ridiculed by a coward and a deserter, and the media parroted the pukes story.

If you saw Hardball last night, you know how they'll attack Hilary. John Edwards made his money as a trial lawyer. Obama has no experience to speak of. There is no perfect candidate and the pukes can make up flaws about whoever the Dem candidate is, and the media will parrot puke lies. It's the media's going along with the puke narrative that makes it so hard for a dem to win. It is damn near impossible for a Democratic candidate to get their message out, except as it is filtered through the puke lies.

[lakeguy]

16. they are all lame ducks because

any smart politician knows that 08 is for the Dems to lose, not for the repugs to win. besides, who would want to clean up after bushco's mess anyway?

[Kazak]

20. Who they got that can beat Gore?

Answer: no one.

[cooolandrew]

22. I don't know they all seem a joke to me. Quite a scary joke too.

[KoKo]

24. It's to set the stage for the one with the MOST EXPERIENCE....GINGRICH!

or for the Bloomberg/Hagel...THIRD WAY.

[CK_John]

26. Your half right and over thinking the situation. Repugs do scheme

and plan. They also are more like the british in that the candidate is just a figurehead of the party and they vote in lock step. We want purity in our candidate and would rather be right than win.

The "warmonger, Mormon, and flawed Mayor" are merely PR bumps in the road to be offset by a brutal campaign of lies and fact bending. The Repug candidate will be Mitt Romney and we will nominate Hillary.

The only unknown is, will there be a strong IND bid made by the current Mayor of NYC. He will run, but will he run to win or just for something to do. He is term limited in NYC and is a bored rich guy looking for a project.

[Neshanic]

27. Good theory. I think you are right.

[live love laugh]

So do I. "They aren't going to waste a serious candidate this early."

Yet...we have put everything we have on the table already. Even Gore said it was too early to start campaigning.

They have pushed to get the Dems' positions out there and they will steal them all before the election, lie again to the American people like Bush did in his first campaign and deliver nothing. But it is "they" who will seize yet another election come hell or high water. Count on it.

[WinkyDink]

31. I agree that the Dems are squandering their one shot. This is the moment.

[DU GrovelBot]

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