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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 03:27 PM
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WHY Is a Crazy Monkey Still In Charge?
This guy...



STOLE THE ELECTION OF 2000.

GAVE TRILLIONS IN TAX BREAKS TO HIS RICH CRONIES.

CONSPIRED WITH KENNY BOY ENRON TO KEEP ENERGY COSTS UP IN CALIFORNIA AND ELSEWHERE.

IGNORED WARNINGS OF AL QUAEDA AND BIN LADEN BEFORE 9-11, DERELICTION OF DUTY -- AT BEST.

USED THE NSA, CIA AND FBI TO ILLEGALLY SPY ON AMERICANS.

HID HIS HARKEN ENERGY BUSINESS RELATIONSHIPS WITH JAMES BATH AND SALEM BIN LADEN.

STOLE THE ELECTION OF 2002.

LIED AMERICA INTO WAR, AN ILLEGAL AND IMMORAL WAR.

OUTTED A CIA AGENT AND HER COMPANY TO GET HER HUSBAND TO SHUT UP ABOUT THE LIES.

LOOTED THE TREASURY OF THE UNITED STATES TO ENRICH HALLIBURTON, BLACKWATER AND THE REST OF THE WAR PROFITEERS.

ALLOWED TAX CHEATS TO HIDE IN THE CAYMANS AND BHARAIN.

ENRICHED THE CHINESE THROUGH POLICIES THAT SENT JOBS, CAPITAL AND GOVERNMENT I.O.U.s OVERSEAS.

PENURED THE MIDDLE CLASS BY CUTTING PROGRAMS THAT HELPED ALL AMERICANS.

STOLE THE ELECTION OF 2004.

ENRICHED THE FRIENDS OF JACK ABRAMOFF.

OBSTRUCTED JUSTICE IN THE INVESTIGATION OF GOVERNMENT CORRUPTION.

TRIED TO STEAL THE ELECTION OF 2006.

USED THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE TO SWING ELECTIONS IN THE GOP'S FAVOR.

BROKE THE READINESS, IF NOT EFFECTIVENESS, OF THE UNITED STASES ARMY, MARINE CORPS AND RESERVES.

THROUGH DERELCTION OF DUTY AS COMMANDER IN CHIEF, HE HAS REDUCED THE NATIONAL SECURITY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

So. The question becomes:

Why does this smirking, screwed-up, crooked, un-American, NAZI traitor still have a job?


C'MON CONGRESS!



GET TO WORK!


Two Things:

1. Sorry for shouting.
2. Obviously, Bush had help in all of the above.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 03:46 PM
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1. He's an expert at throwing poo
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 04:08 PM
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6. Self-delete; replied to wrong post.
Edited on Sat May-26-07 04:10 PM by notsodumbhillbilly
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 04:34 PM
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10. Gore Won in 2000
I see what you mean, krispos42!



Stolen Election 2000

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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 12:25 PM
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73. And * said to the American electorate:

"F you. Stick it in your eye!"
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 02:55 PM
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80. LIE, LIES, and more LIES. Handy compilations
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 03:50 PM
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2.  Because we have a weak useless house
Who found the idea of putting impeachment off the table and ignore the will of the people they were voted in to represent and because the people stand for this with weak protests and no real outrage .
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 04:41 PM
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11. ''Our'' Reps earlier found time to give away the store to the Richie Riches...


Year-by-Year Analysis of the Bush Tax Cuts Shows Growing Tilt to the Very Rich

I think it was Vonnegut who said we would have a better overall Congress were we to randomly select names from the phone book.

If so directed, I'd take time going through the "V" section.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 03:56 PM
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3. Because, by attrition, Big Oil is now the nation's 800 lb. Gorilla...
Big Steel? - Gone

Big Labor? - Gone

Big Manufacturing? - Gone

This country's currency is now dependent on Big Oil's indirect control of oil. I think the powers-that-be are backing this desperate strategy because they are, well, desperate.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 05:10 PM
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14. Bushes are mere apes, stooges for Big Oil




Rockefeller Associates

The Rockefellers were heavy financial backers of the American Liberty League.


By Richard Sanders, Editor, Press for Conversion!

John Davison Rockefeller (1839-1937), the world’s first billionaire, was America’s most generous philanthropist, fascist financier and Nazi collaborator.

Although Rockefeller’s wealth was based largely on a near global control of oil refining, he also had large interests in other monoplies. As Anthony Sutton notes, Rockefeller

“controlled the copper trust, the smelters trust and the gigantic tobacco trust, in addition to having influence in some Morgan properties such as the U.S. Steel Corporation as well as in hundreds of smaller industrial trusts, public service operations, railroads and banking institutions. National City Bank was the largest of the banks influenced by Standard Oil-Rockefeller, but financial control extended to the U.S. Trust Co. and Hanover National Bank major life insurance companies – Equitable Life and Mutual of New York” (Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution, 1981).

His incredible rags-to-riches success story owes much to what he learned from his father’s attitudes towards business and respect for the public good. Descended from hardworking German immigrants, his father William Avery Rockefeller was a travelling, snake oil salesman. “Big Bill” excelled as a quack doctor, or pitch man, conning the sick and desperate into buying expensive remedies that were either useless or downright dangerous. “He would be gone for months and come back with a great roll of money…. He would go to small towns and put up handbills advertising himself as ‘The Celebrated Dr. Levingston.’ He advertised to cure anything, but made a specialty of cancer and kidney troubles” (MacDonald, “Double Life,” New York World, February 2, 1908). But these were not “Doc’s” only crimes. He was indicted for rape, but was not arrested or tried. He fled the area with family and escaped neighbours who accused him of horse thieving, burglary, arson and counterfeiting. He had two wives, simultaneously, and was a bigamist for 34 years. He met his second wife in Norwich, Ontario, where he sold lumber in 1853, calling himself William Levingston.

William’s example provided ample life lessons to his sons about the business values of duplicity, deceit, and a blatant disregard for public health. John dropped out of high school in 1855 to take a business course. He worked as a bookkeeper and then teamed up with a friend to start a grain commission business. In 1863, the Civil War propelled him into the oil business. That year, he – like J.P. Morgan and other rising stars – paid $300 to avoid conscription. It was a small price for them, but unattainable for the thousands who would die. At first, he sold whiskey at inflated rates to Federal soldiers. Then, he invested his profits in oil refineries. The South had been supplying turpentine to the North for camphene-fueled lights. When the war cut off the North’s access to this fuel, kerosene from Pennsylvania oil quickly took over as the lamp fuel of choice and stimulated his oil business.

In 1865, Rockefeller bought out his partners in the kerosene business for $72,500. In 1870, he and a few others, organized The Standard Oil Company, with capital of $1 million. He built his company by buying out competitors, price cutting and controlling secondary businesses related to pipelines, trains, oil terminals and barrel making. By 1880, his monopoly controlled the refining of 95% of America’s oil. In 1885, 70% of Standard Oil’s sales were overseas, largely to northern Europe and Russia. All of its properties were merged into the Standard Oil Trust with an initial capitalization of $70 million, and by 1900 Rockefeller controlled about two-thirds of the entire world’s oil supply. He was also a director of the U.S. Steel Corp when it formed in 1901.

CONTINUED...

http://coat.ncf.ca/our_magazine/links/53/rockefeller.html



It covers the part where the Bushes come in...
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 11:00 AM
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68. Here's the money quote on Standard Oil and the Fascist Int'l
Edited on Sun May-27-07 11:06 AM by leveymg
All of which leads us to al-Qaeda, the intersection of the Fascist International, the House of Bush and the House of Saud. There are a lot of old grudges there against the FDR-wing of the United States to settle. The Bush-Cheney Administration has been part of that payback. The GOP, using Big Oil money, colluded with the Nazis before and after WWII, and they're still at it. They won't stop until America is ruined or until we stop them.


In 1932, Chevron struck oil in Bahrain and was soon operating in Saudi Arabia. In 1933, when Hitler seized power, Standard Oil New Jersey supplied Germany with the patents it required for tetraethyl lead aviation fuel. In 1936, the company Schroder, Rockefeller Investment Bankers, included board directors linked to the Gestapo and several European, Nazi-linked banks. It’s lawyers were John Foster Dulles and Allan Dulles, leading Wall Street fascists who drummed up American investments in Germany and elsewhere. The Dulles law firm represented I.G. Farben and Fritz Thyssen. Thyssen was Hitler’s biggest German financier. The Dulles brothers later became Secretary of State and CIA Director, respectively.

In 1937, John D. Rockefeller died, but his legacy of using oil money to grease the wheels of fascism continued. That year, as the Spanish Civil War raged, Texas Co. (later called Texaco) fueled Franco’s fascists. (In 1936, Texas Co. and Standard Oil California formed California Texas Oil (later Caltex) to combine Texas Co’s marketing network in the Middle East with Standard’s operations there.) Texas Co. also continued shipping oil to Germany during WWII. In 1938, Brown Brothers, Harriman, the Wall Street investment firm (with senior partners Prescott Bush and George Herbert Walker) was involved in funding the supply of leaded gas for the Nazi Luftwaffe. Chevron and Texas Co. created Aramco in 1939, to pump Saudi oil for the Nazi war machine. In 1940, Texaco provided an office, in their Chrysler Building, for a Nazi intelligence officer, Dr. Gerhardt Westrick. Executives of Standard Oil’s German subsidiary were “Prominent figures of Himmler’s Circle of Friends of the Gestapo – its chief financiers – and close friends and colleagues of the Baron von Schroder” a leading Gesatpo officer and financier (Charles Higham, Trading with the Enemy). Just before WWII, the Rockefeller’s Chase Bank collaborated with the Nazi’s Schroder Bank to raise $25 million for Germany’s war economy. They also supplied the German government with names and background information on 10,000 fascist sympathizers in America. Throughout WWII, Rockefeller’s Chase Bank stayed open in Nazi-occupied Paris, providing services for Germany’s embassy and its businesses.

In 1943, Roosevelt’s government took control of Rockefeller’s Aramco. It also seized assets of the Union Banking Corp., which Harriman, Bush and Walker had built up by collaborating with Nazi companies that used slave labour. This money was later returned and it launched the Bushes in oil and politics.


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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-28-07 12:06 PM
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92. As usual, great read, Octafish...
Thanks...
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 05:35 PM
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19. Big water is already fixing to replace Big Oil.
And Bush and Moon are WAY AHEAD of most on that score.
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 09:35 AM
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65. You forgot big Pharma and Big Insurance....nt
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 03:56 PM
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4. It's like. . "HEY AMERICA.....THE BIG LIE!!"
He told it..He sold it... Believe it, An American "President" can too be THIS EVIL, THIS VENAL, whether you want to believe it or not.

k&r!
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 05:20 PM
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16. Bush KNEW. And he LIED!
Remember how the derelict turd from Crawford wouldn't testify under oath?

Then, he would only show up if Cheney were there to hold his wittle hand?

The guy lied like a rug. And because the American people, on the whole, are a good lot, they believed what the Resident was saying.

Still, everybody in Washington had connected the dots...



Well, everybody except one fellah:



Plot to assassinate Bush – reports

Ashcroft Flying High

Genoa braces for G8 summit

Why would Osama bin Laden want to kill Dubya, his former business partner?

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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 04:04 PM
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5. That's such a good question
Edited on Sat May-26-07 04:08 PM by seemslikeadream
I HAVE NO IDEA WHY DOES THIS SMIRKING, SCREWED-UP, CROOKED, UN-AMERICAN, NAZI TRAITOR STILL HAS A JOB?













http://www.chinapage.com/sunzi-e.html

II. WAGING WAR


1. Sun Tzu said: In the operations of war,
where there are in the field a thousand swift chariots,
as many heavy chariots, and a hundred thousand
mail-clad soldiers, with provisions enough to carry them
a thousand li, the expenditure at home and at the front,
including entertainment of guests, small items such as
glue and paint, and sums spent on chariots and armor,
will reach the total of a thousand ounces of silver per day.
Such is the cost of raising an army of 100,000 men.

2. When you engage in actual fighting, if victory
is long in coming, then men's weapons will grow dull and
their ardor will be damped. If you lay siege to a town,
you will exhaust your strength.
3. Again, if the campaign is protracted, the resources
of the State will not be equal to the strain.

4. Now, when your weapons are dulled, your ardor damped,
your strength exhausted and your treasure spent,
other chieftains will spring up to take advantage
of your extremity. Then no man, however wise,
will be able to avert the consequences that must ensue.

5. Thus, though we have heard of stupid haste in war,
cleverness has never been seen associated with long delays.

6. There is no instance of a country having benefited
from prolonged warfare.

7. It is only one who is thoroughly acquainted
with the evils of war that can thoroughly understand
the profitable way of carrying it on.

8. The skillful soldier does not raise a second levy,
neither are his supply-wagons loaded more than twice.

9. Bring war material with you from home, but forage
on the enemy. Thus the army will have food enough
for its needs.

10. Poverty of the State exchequer causes an army
to be maintained by contributions from a distance.
Contributing to maintain an army at a distance causes
the people to be impoverished.

11. On the other hand, the proximity of an army causes
prices to go up; and high prices cause the people's
substance to be drained away.

12. When their substance is drained away, the peasantry
will be afflicted by heavy exactions.

13,14. With this loss of substance and exhaustion
of strength, the homes of the people will be stripped bare,
and three-tenths of their income will be dissipated;
while government expenses for broken chariots, worn-out horses,
breast-plates and helmets, bows and arrows, spears and shields,
protective mantles, draught-oxen and heavy wagons,
will amount to four-tenths of its total revenue.

15. Hence a wise general makes a point of foraging
on the enemy. One cartload of the enemy's provisions
is equivalent to twenty of one's own, and likewise
a single picul of his provender is equivalent to twenty
from one's own store.

16. Now in order to kill the enemy, our men must
be roused to anger; that there may be advantage from
defeating the enemy, they must have their rewards.

17. Therefore in chariot fighting, when ten or more chariots
have been taken, those should be rewarded who took the first.
Our own flags should be substituted for those of the enemy,
and the chariots mingled and used in conjunction with ours.
The captured soldiers should be kindly treated and kept.

18. This is called, using the conquered foe to augment
one's own strength.

19. In war, then, let your great object be victory,
not lengthy campaigns.

20. Thus it may be known that the leader of armies
is the arbiter of the people's fate, the man on whom it
depends whether the nation shall be in peace or in peril.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 06:06 PM
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22. That Number 7 is a doozy.
Edited on Sat May-26-07 06:07 PM by Octafish
7. It is only one who is thoroughly acquainted
with the evils of war that can thoroughly understand
the profitable way of carrying it on.




Speaking of warmongering turds... Guess who stated the following:

The streets of our country are in turmoil. The universities are filled with students rebelling and rioting. Communists are seeking to destroy our country. Russia is threatening us with her might and the Republic is in danger. Yes, danger from within and from without. We need law and order. Yes, without law and order our nation cannot survive. Elect us and we shall restore law and order.



No, it wasn't Trickster's hatchet man.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 10:40 AM
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67. Believe that was Herr Goebbels
But, it's also been attributed to Goering and Hitler.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 04:11 PM
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7. Complicity, courtesy of DLC.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 06:13 PM
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23. ENRON Democrats
Lieberman FOLDED as fast as punter with a pair of fours.



Enron Democrats

by WILLIAM GREIDER

The Nation
April 8, 2002

If left-labor-liberal progressives had the cohesion and muscle of their right-wing opposites, they would be articulating a simple-to-understand litmus test for the Democratic Party--no "Enron Democrats" on the presidential ticket in 2004. That precondition would eliminate a number of presidential wannabes now mentioned by the Washington media's Great Mentioner. Scratch Senator Joe Lieberman. Forget the happy talk about Senate majority leader Tom Daschle's running for the White House. And Senator Joe Biden can stop daydreaming. These men--and perhaps some other would-be candidates--do not pass the Enron smell test.

It is not that Enron Democrats got a lot of money themselves from the now-ruined energy company, but they are implicated in more significant ways. On various matters, they helped set the stage for the scandalous behavior of Enron and other highfliers now in disgrace. They defended the degraded accounting standards that hoodwinked investors. Or they promoted financial gimmicks and deregulatory measures that opened the way for grand malpractice. Or they formed thick alliances with the very banks, auditing firms and corporations that are now running for cover--sued, investigated or defrocked as New Economy marvels.

Enron Democrats are compromised by their own past behavior, which explains why the Democratic Party's reaction to this spectacle is so muted. Much as in the S&L scandals of the late 1980s, an unspoken truce may emerge between the two parties--don't throw mud at me or I'll throw some back--since so many leading Democrats are implicated along with the Republicans. The hallmark of "Enron issues" is the ease with which Democrats desert the interests of their party's core constituencies to serve the political needs of business and banking. Some doubtless do so as a matter of conviction; some doubtless are convinced by the money.

Apostasy is a safe vote for Democrats, at least on financial issues that are obscure and complicated. Rank-and-file voters cannot connect the dots in order to recognize the betrayal; Republicans cannot attack them for their pro-banker votes. And labor-liberal groups--the valiant people who actively oppose these business-banking "reforms" in the legislative arena--will not attack either. This is because the Democrats always offer a billboard agenda at election time--a few important "people issues" like healthcare, Social Security, the environment--to draw a sharp contrast with the wicked Republicans. Other complaints are silenced, especially less familiar ones. Disappointed activists, from organized labor to consumer, civil rights and women's groups, swallow their anger and fall into line. Unlike the right, progressives feel too weak or scattered to propose their own litmus test, much less enforce it.

Enron Democrats understand this. They are masters at stroking their discontented constituencies while voting against them on bedrock economic issues. The Enron storm, among other revelations, illustrates the inconstancy of the Democratic Party or, as some say more simply, its loss of soul.

CONTINUED...

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20020408/greider



Hard to worship Mammon and a Monkey...



But, they do -- among other things.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 04:13 PM
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8. F#ck me, I don't know. What the hell is the matter wi th us
that we can't impeach the biggest criminals that have ever occupied the WH without ever even being elected?

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 06:25 PM
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24. Bush Praises Sun Myung Moon as 'Man With The Vision'
Could be blackmail.



Probably's something worse.



Bush Praises Sun Myung Moon as 'Man With The Vision'

07:10 Nov 25, 1996 EST
BUENOS AIRES Reuters) -

The South Korean evangelist Sun Myung Moon launched a new Spanish-language newspaper for the whole of Latin America this weekend, with the backing of guest George Bush who praised Moon's respect for editorial independence. The former U.S. president, guest speaker at a banquet Saturday to launch Moon's new publication ``Tiempos del Politics Mundo'' (Times of the World), was full of praise for the controversial evangelist's best-known newspaper, the Washington Times, and referred to Moon as ``the man with the vision.'' Bush then travelled with Moon to neighboring Uruguay Sunday to help him inaugurate a seminary in the capital Montevideo to train 4,200 young Japanese women to spread the word of his Church of Unification across Latin America.

Moon already owns a major newspaper, bank and hotel in Uruguay and is buying up land in the Argentine province of Corrientes, where he plans to construct what his followers call ``ideal cities''.

``I want to salute Reverend Moon who is the founder of the Washington Times and of the new paper here,'' said Bush, who was reported by the Washington Post to have been paid $100,000 for his Buenos Aires appearance.

``A lot of my friends in South America don't know about the Washington Times but it is an independent voice,'' said Bush. ''The editors of the Washington Times tell me that never once has the man with the vision interfered with the running of the paper, a paper that in my view brings sanity to Washington DC.''

``I am convinced that Tiempos del Mundo is going to do the same thing,'' said Bush, who managed to avoid being photographed with the 76-year-old South Korean evangelist during his whole stay in Buenos Aires.

CONTINUED...

http://www.iapprovethismessiah.com/2003/12/flashback-bush-praises-sun-myung-moon.html



What that is, we're living it.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 06:35 PM
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Years ago, one of my comic friends said "For a moment, we were
Guatemala."

He was so wrong. Guatemala was just a BFEE petri dish.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 10:54 PM
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52. Same crew as Guatemala... and Dallas...
...Except a few of the Old Boys are dead.

Adios, Eduardo.



Dirty Politics --
Nixon, Watergate, and the JFK Assassination


by Mark Tracy

"I suppose really the only two dates that most people remember where they were was Pearl Harbor and the death of president Franklin Roosevelt." --John F. Kennedy

Richard Nixon claimed to remember where he was during another momentous event -- the assassination of John F. Kennedy on November 22, 1963. Nixon said that he first heard about Kennedy's death during a taxi ride in New York City. However, a United Press International photo taken that day tells a different story. The photo shows a "shocked Richard Nixon" (as the caption reads) having already learned of Kennedy's assassination upon his arrival at New York's Idlewild Airport -- in other words, before his alleged taxi ride. Perhaps Nixon was trying to deflect attention from the fact that the plane he had arrived on had originated from Dallas, Texas. Indeed, Nixon (as he later admitted) had been in Dallas from November 20 to the 22. While in Dallas, Nixon had attended meetings with right-wing politicians and executives from the Pepsi-Cola company. Nixon's Taxi-Cab Tales: Click to read

Journalist Jim Marrs gives this account: "With Nixon in Dallas was Pepsi-Cola heiress and actress Joan Crawford. Both Nixon and Crawford made comments in the Dallas newspapers to the effect that they, unlike the President, didn't need Secret Service protection, and they intimated that the nation was upset with Kennedy's policies. It has been suggested that this taunting may have been responsible for Kennedy's critical decision not to order the Plexiglas top placed on his limousine on November 22."

Other facts linking Nixon to the JFK assassination emerged years later during the Watergate conspiracy, some of which were revealed by Nixon's former chief of staff, H. R. Haldeman. In his book, The Ends of Power, Haldeman cites several conversations where Nixon expressed concern about the Watergate affair becoming public knowledge and where this exposure might lead. Haldeman writes:

"In fact, I was puzzled when he told me, 'Tell Ehrlichman this whole group of Cubans is tied to the Bay of Pigs.' After a pause I said, 'The Bay of Pigs? What does that have to do with this ?' But Nixon merely said, 'Ehrlichman will know what I mean,' and dropped the subject."

Later in his book, Haldeman appears to answer his own question when he says, "It seems that in all of those Nixon references to the Bay of Pigs, he was actually referring to the Kennedy assassination."

CONTINUED...

http://mtracy9.tripod.com/kennedy.html



And you are spot-on, sfexpat2000:

"Guatemala was just a BFEE petri dish*."

Some experiments have gone horribly awry,

such as the human-animal hybrid model, Minus-XY:



*Wish I'd said that.

But, if you'll let me, sfexpat2000, I will ;).
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 02:36 PM
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77. Take it and run with it.
:)
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 06:58 PM
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33. Yewwwww! Has Momma Barbara seen that pic? She must have kicked Georgie's ass.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 11:13 PM
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53. A version I can't find had Poppy's signature and dedication...
"To Annie..." I remember the Old Spook wrote.
Unfortunately, I can't find the photo today.

Here's a source, a Sinagore spa -- high-class, certainly of the one posted:

http://www.fitness-plus.com.sg/media.htm

Nice place. A lot of exercise goes on there.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 09:14 PM
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43. KNOW YOUR BFEE.
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 09:58 PM
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47. .


my knr post

:)


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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 04:17 PM
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9. EXCELLENT question...
It was Bill Maher who called him Prez Shit-for-Brains

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 06:34 PM
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25. IMO: The DEMs are AFRAID -- not of the voters...
...but of what happens to people who oppose these gangsters that make up the War Party.



How Does the War Party Get Away with It?

September 14, 2003
Robert Higgs

If you see someone shuffling along the street, eyes downcast, a pained expression on his face, you may have stumbled upon a member of the Peace Party. Once again, this party's cause has gone down to defeat, and its members are shaking their heads sadly, wondering why.

Their anguish is not assuaged by the knowledge that ultimately many will come to see that they were right to oppose this war. Eventual vindication will avail them little. The war is a fait accompli, and time’s arrow flies in only one direction. The death, destruction, and misery that the war has caused cannot be erased. On the contrary, for many of the victims, that misery will only fester, despoiling the other lives it touches, just as it did in the aftermath of earlier, similarly mistaken wars. Think of all the former soldiers with parts of their bodies missing, or parts of their minds gone askew. In this country, veterans’ institutions brim with these enduring casualties, and big-city alleys harbor no small number of them. In Iraq the innocent victims of this year's war are counted in the tens of thousands, and their number continues to mount.

While the architects of war, the Cheneys, Rumsfelds, and Wolfowitzs who sleep every night between clean sheets, deem these terrible costs to be worth bearing—as well they might, because they personally bear not an ounce of them—the members of the Peace Party often seem baffled. In view of the evident futility, and worse, of nearly every war the United States has fought during the past century, how does the War Party manage to propel this nation into one catastrophe after another, each of them clearly foreseen by at least a substantial minority who failed to dissuade their fellow citizens from still another march into calamity?

An adequate answer might fill a volume, but some elements of that answer can be sketched briefly. The essential components are autocratic government, favorably disposed mass culture, public ignorance and misplaced trust, cooperative mass media, and political exploitation for personal and institutional advantage.

By “autocratic government,” I refer to the reality of how foreign policy is actually made in the United States. Notwithstanding the trappings of our political system’s democratic procedures, checks and balances, elections, and so forth, the making of foreign policy involves only a handful of people decisively. When the president and his coterie of top advisers decide to go to war, they just go, and nobody can stop them. The “intelligence” agencies, the diplomatic corps, and the armed forces do as they are told. Members of Congress cower and speak in mealy-mouthed phrases framed to ensure that no matter how the war turns out, they can share any credit and deny any blame. No one has effective capacity to block the president, and few officials care to do so in any event, even if they object. Rarely does anyone display the minimal decency of resigning his military commission or his appointment in the bureaucracy. In short, in our system the president has come to hold the power of war and peace exclusively in his hands, notwithstanding anything to the contrary written in the Constitution or the laws. He might as well be Caesar.

CONTINUED...

http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=1178



Not the Kaiser, though.



Bush thinks himself, "Chancellor."

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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 06:43 PM
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28. Thanks for that link. I will be sharing that with my entire email list.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 04:46 PM
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12. A few REALLY loyal friends?
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 10:17 PM
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49. Rich, too. And -- Oh So Social!
The big names below became the bedrocks of Wall Street, the CIA and the Military Industrial Complex -- Rockefeller, Harriman, Walker... Bush.



Rise of the Fourth Reich: The Bush Family Oligarchy

EXCERPT...

race purification & the eugenics internationale

George Herbert Walker and Prescott Bush were active in the leadership of the eugenics societies that were popular among the wealthy classes in the first half of the twentieth century. Prescott Bush was the Connecticut director of the Mental Hygiene Society which originated at Yale University in 1908. The headquarters of the American Eugenics Society was also at Yale (also home of the Order of Skull & Bones) until its relocation to and merger in 1952 with the Population Council, which was founded by John D. Rockefeller and John Foster Dulles, lawyer for Brown Brothers Harriman.

The Mental Hygiene Society of which Prescott Bush was a director was a project of the Order of Skull and Bones. The society "would evolve into the CIA's cultural engineering effort of the 1950s, the drugs and brainwashing adventure known as 'MK-Ultra'...an anti-American project which poured drugs into the country and worked to fabricate the drug-sex youth culture." 8.
         "A behavior control research project was begun in the 1950s, coordinated by the British psychological warfare unit called the Tavistock Institute, with the  Scottish Rite Masons, the Central Intelligence Agency, and other British, U.S., Canadian, and United Nations agencies. The project became famous in the 1970s under a CIA code name, 'MK-Ultra.' Its notoriety for brainwashing by drugs, hypnosis, electroshock, and other tortures caused many books to be written about the project, and the U.S. Senate conducted hearings which exposed many of its abusive features. President Gerald Ford appointed a commission headed by Vice President Nelson Rockefeller, to correct the CIA's misconduct. There was a widespread anti-establishment view at the time,  that here was the fox appointed to guard the hen house." 9.


The Mental Hygiene movement was organized into the World Federation of Mental Health by none other than Montagu Norman, Governor of the Bank of England who, with Hjalmar Schacht, the financial engineer of the Nazi rearmament program and member of the British Round Table, and Benjamin Strong of the New York Federal Reserve Bank, conspired to precipitate the Great Depression.  Under Adolf Hitler, Hjalmar Schacht was appointed Minister of Economics. (See: Eugenics: All in the Family)
        "The Mental Hygiene movement was organized into the World Federation of Mental Health by Montagu Norman, former Brown Brothers partner and Bank of England Governor. Norman had appointed as the federation's chairman, Brigadier John Rawlings Rees, director of the Tavistock Psychiatric Clinic, chief psychiatrist and psychological warfare expert for the British intelligence services...
      
      "The world financial crisis led to the merger of the Walker-Harriman bank with Brown Brothers in 1931. Former Brown partner Montagu Norman and his protégé Hjalmar Schacht paid frantic visits to New York that year and the next, preparing the new Hitler regime for Germany." 10.

The interaction between the British, American and German Eugenics societies laid the foundation for implementation of the race purification ideology behind Hitler's Third Reich. In 1912, the First International Congress of Eugenics was held at the University of London. The president of the Congress was Major Leonard Darwin, son of Charles Darwin and one of the first English vice presidents was Sir Winston Churchill, later Prime Minister of England. In 1921, the Second International Congress of Eugenics was held in New York City. The sponsoring committee included  Herbert Hoover, later President of the U.S., and the Carnegie Institute of Washington (Rockefeller).  Madison Grant, a director of the American Eugenics Society, was the treasurer. The event was held at the American Museum of Natural History in New York, where Averell Harriman served on the Board of Directors.

CONTINUED...

http://www.watch.pair.com/reich.html



It's not fair.



To pukes and NAZIs, some people ARE better than others.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 04:51 PM
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13. He still reigns BECAUSE
(present company excluded) he is the PERFECT POSTER BOY for the "American" mentality; lack of curiosity, myopia, meglomania, short-sightedness, ignorance, arrogance, might-makes-right... ALLES IN EINEM.

Nancy and crew have just shoved THAT reality in the faces of those who have eyes to see once again.

*GWB IS THE FACE OF THE UNITED STATES.

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 10:29 PM
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50. The Bush administration’s Imperial Grand Strategy
A man and woman of peace:



Doc Chomsky and I have issues regarding Dallas, but we agree on the big picture:



Dominance and Its Dilemmas

The Bush administration’s Imperial Grand Strategy


Noam Chomsky

8 The past year has been a momentous one in world affairs. In the normal rhythm of political life, the pattern was set in September of 2002, a month marked by several important and closely related events. The most powerful state in history announced a new National Security Strategy, asserting that it will maintain global hegemony permanently: any challenge will be blocked by force, the dimension in which the United States reigns supreme. At the same time, war drums began to beat to mobilize the population for an invasion of Iraq, which would be “the first test , not the last,” the New York Times observed after the invasion, “the petri dish in which this experiment in pre-emptive policy grew.”1 And the campaign opened for the midterm congressional elections, which would determine whether the administration would be able to carry forward its radical international and domestic agenda.

EXCERPT...

The new grand strategy authorizes Washington to carry out “preventive war.” Whatever the justifications for pre-emptive war may sometimes be, they do not hold for preventive war, particularly as that concept is interpreted by its current enthusiasts: the use of military force to eliminate an invented or imagined threat, so that even the term “preventive” is too charitable. Preventive war is, very simply, the “supreme crime” condemned at Nuremberg.

That is widely understood. As the United States invaded Iraq, Arthur Schlesinger wrote that Bush’s grand strategy is “alarmingly similar to the policy that imperial Japan employed at Pearl Harbor, on a date which, as an earlier American president said it would, lives in infamy.” FDR was right, he added, “but today it is we Americans who live in infamy.” It is no surprise that “the global wave of sympathy that engulfed the United States after 9/11 has given way to a global wave of hatred of American arrogance and militarism” and to the belief that Bush is “a greater threat to peace than Saddam Hussein.”8

For the political leadership, mostly recycled from more reactionary sectors of the Reagan–Bush I administrations, “the global wave of hatred” is not a particular problem. They want to be feared, not loved. They understand as well as their establishment critics that their actions increase the risk of proliferation of weapons of mass destruction (WMD) and terror. But that too is not a major problem. Higher on the scale of priorities are the goals of establishing global hegemony and implementing their domestic agenda: dismantling the progressive achievements that have been won by popular struggle over the past century and institutionalizing these radical changes so that recovering them will be no easy task.

It is not enough for a hegemonic power to declare an official policy. It must establish it as a “new norm of international law” by exemplary action. Distinguished commentators may then explain that law is a flexible, living instrument, ensuring that the new norm is available as a guide to action. It is understood that only those with the guns can establish “norms” and modify international law.

CONTINUED...

http://bostonreview.net/BR28.5/chomsky.html



And the other type.



Plus, they got the nukes, Doña Karenina.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 05:20 PM
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15. I will say this in Nacy's defense; she did say pre-election that as far as she was concerned
that impeachment was off the table, which was probably necessary since she would immediately benefit if impeachment succeeded.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 10:44 PM
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51. Two Psychiatrists Look at the Bush Administration
The dim nutjob needs to move on and Pelosi needs a new job.
She's way more qualified for the Oval Office than almost all national politicians.
In fact, anyone with a fourth-grade reading level can do a better job than the fella Bartcop accurately named the "Giggling Murdermonkey."



Two Psychiatrists Look at the Bush Administration
 
A summary by Jack Dresser, Ph.D., with selected excerpts from two books:

Bush on the Couch by Justin A. Frank, M.D.
Clinical Professor, Department of Psychiatry, George Washington University
and
The Superpower Syndrome by Robert Jay Lifton, M.D.
Distinguished Visiting Professor of Psychology and Psychiatry, Harvard University
 
Psychiatrist Jerrold Post, M.D., founder of the CIA’s Center for the Analysis of Personality and Political Behavior, stated, “the leader who cannot adapt to external realities because he adheres to an internally programmed life script...has displaced his private needs upon the state.” Applied psychoanalysis is a discipline used routinely by intelligence agencies since early in World War II to identify such distortions and predict political behavior through psychological profiles of foreign leaders.  Although lacking the data of direct doctor-patient interaction, such analyses have far greater external data available to draw upon.  Dr. Frank has applied these methods to George W. Bush.  Dr. Lifton focuses on the theme of grandiosity and unresolved personal self-doubt projected into our foreign policy.

A Sense of Entitlement

A lifelong “sense of entitlement” has been exhibited by Mr. Bush, described by Washington psychoanalyst Justin Frank.  Dr. Frank has published a comprehensive study of Mr. Bush’s personality, based upon his many public statements, public actions, and the historical record provided by biographers, journalists, and others who have known him well and observed him closely over many years.  Specifically, Mr. Bush feels and acts entitled to disregard the laws, rules and expectations governing ordinary people.

This has taken many forms over many years.  He did not have to “pay attention” at Yale, to wait his turn in line to gain safety from war in the Texas Air National Guard, to observe the law regarding intoxicated driving, to file required reports on his Harken Energy stock sales with the SEC, or to respect the will of Florida voters. His has become our national outlaw ethic. He disrespects U.S.-signed treaties to reduce global warming and nuclear proliferation, and refuses to support the International Criminal Court.  This fits the romanticized American outlaw image, but is an adolescent response to problems needing complex adult solutions.

Violating a principle common to all human societies, Bush entitles himself to lie without guilt.  He has misled, misrepresented, and  lied outright and continuously throughout his public life.  This has been witnessed and described by many observers.  There are volumes of documentation by writers of impeccable reliability recounting the Bush practice of saying anything to control the perceptions of others and get what he wants.

Bush’s Orwellian descriptions that totally misrepresent known facts reveal his perceived exemption even from the laws of reality, suggesting disordered thinking.  He also claims exemption from the laws of personal and public accountability.  “I don’t feel like I owe anybody an explanation,” he told journalist Bob Woodward.

Aggression and Cruelty

This is a lifelong pattern.  As a child, little George blew up frogs with firecrackers inserted into their bodies.  Lacking scholastic and athletic abilities, he used unkind teasing in school.  In college, he hazed new fraternity pledges with branding irons on the buttocks.  As Governor he mocked death-row inmates and smirked at their executions.  As a political campaigner, he relies heavily on smug ridicule and mockery of opponents.

CONTINUED...

http://www.squadron13.com/JackDresser/psychoanalysis.htm



Yours is an excellent point, MasonJar:

Before the 2006 elections, she had to make certain that it was not her intention to kick the little turd back to Crawford.

Pelosi is INFINITELY more qualified to serve as President than Warmonkey.
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 05:29 PM
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17. I guess at some point Congress has to face the reality that it will take
armed action to remove him from office. The Attorney General is looking at legislators and flat-out lying to them.
Bush is WRITING DOWN that he is going to ignore legislation as he sees fit.
I think some in Congress really believe that he would leave the soldiers in the field without ammo and try to blame it on Dems rather than withdraw them due to lack of money.

I don't think Congress sees the will for an armed removal since they can't even get the idiot Republicans to go for impeachment. I am coming to the belief that Dems have resigned themselves to making the best of things that they can until 2009. They did put some good things in that Iraq funding bill that would have had a tough time on their own. But of course, Bush will probably ignore all that anyway.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 10:45 PM
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86. Scripted Press Conferences and the Lapdog Media
It's not just the Frustrating Congress: The press is at fault, too.
Remember that zombie-nauseating "scripted" nightmare of a press conference?



Scripted Press Conferences and the Lapdog Media

BUZZFLASH NEWS ANALYSIS
March 7, 2003

As we have mentioned over the last two years, the Republican Party is so brazen in its hypocrisy, it will sometimes just openly brag about its duplicitousness.

It happened when Andrew Card said in September of 2002 that the Bush Cartel waited until the fall to begin the drumbeats of war against Iraq, because, he argued, the summer is not a good time to roll out a "new product."

It happened again on Thursday night when Bush openly acknowledged that the news conference was scripted. Bush appeared to be referring to a list of reporters prepared for him that he was reading from, which excluded Helen Thomas, of course. As he read down the list, he told a reporter, in essence, to wait to ask his question because the reporter was further down on the list.

You can hear (557kb wav) the "script" comment yourself in an audio file created by a BuzzFlash Reader, who notes, "The relevant excerpt from CNN's transcript is included below -- notice the 'scripted' comment is conveniently scrubbed out."
    BUSH: ...The risk of doing nothing, the risk of hoping that Saddam Hussein changes his mind and becomes a gentle soul, the risk that somehow inaction will make the world safer, is a risk I'm not willing to take for the American people.

    QUESTION: Thank you, Mr. President. Sir, how would you answer your critics who say that they think is somehow personal? As Senator Kennedy put it tonight, he said your fixation with Saddam Hussein is making the world a more dangerous place.
    (See: http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/03/06/bush.speech.transcript/index.html

    CONTINUED...

    http://www.buzzflash.com/analysis/03/03/07_scripted.html



The Traitors have been joined by the Captains of Corporate McPravda. Thank Gore for the Internets.

Perhaps the Joint Chiefs, realizing this, will stand behind Pelosi, joined by a platoon battalion of MPs, and ring the White House doorbell. Until then, the Truth will have to do. Thank you for expressing it so well, Maynard G.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 05:34 PM
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18. Some of us are just
getting too old and tired

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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 05:57 PM
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21. heh.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 10:52 PM
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88. Frustrated with Bush, the Veep Urges Israel to Attack Iran
Speaking of little old ladies who deserve to be necklaced:

There's trouble in the Land of the Lost Reich...



Frustrated with Bush, the Veep Urges Israel to Attack Iran

Cheney, Israel and Iran


By GARY LEUPP
CounterPunch

"There is a race currently underway between different flanks of the administration to determine the future course of US-Iran policy," writes Washington insider Steven C. Clemens on his Washington Note blog. "On one flank are the diplomats, and on the other is Vice President Cheney's team and acolytes -- who populate quite a wide swath throughout the American national security bureaucracy." This is "worrisome" because the "person in the Bush administration who most wants a hot conflict with Iran is Vice President Cheney."

Clemens cites a Cheney aide as indicating "that Cheney himself is frustrated with President Bush and believes, much like Richard Perle, that Bush is making a disastrous mistake" by supporting the diplomatic approach to Iran apparently favored by the State Department. So Cheney plans to deploy an "end run strategy" around the president (who's more swayed at present by Condi Rice's "realists" than Cheney's neocons) if his flank doesn't prevail and Bush resists the demand of the neocons and the AIPAC lobby for a bloody showdown.

    "The thinking on Cheney's team is to collude with Israel, nudging Israel at some key moment in the ongoing standoff between Iran's nuclear activities and international frustration over this to mount a small-scale conventional strike against Natanz using cruise missiles This strategycould be expected to trigger a sufficient Iranian counter-strike against US forces in the Gulfas to compel Bush to forgo the diplomatic track that the administration realists are advocating and engage in another war."

This is the most frightening piece I've read some time, along with Justin Raimondo's latest column on antiwar.com that draws upon it. Raimondo citing a recent CNN interview with Seymour Hersh links Cheney and Deputy National Security Advisor Elliott Abrams (the most powerful neocon presently in the administration) to U.S. support for the Sunni Fatah al Islam militia in Lebanon as a means to weaken Hizbollah. "George W. Bush," he declares, "is totally out of the loop" in what Raimondo calls "the Cheney administration."

These reports have the ring of truth, it seems to me. Bob Woodward citing Colin Powell has documented how Cheney and his neocon gang formed "a separate little government" back in 2002 in order to arrange the assault on Iraq, preceded by a campaign of disinformation which the fool in the Oval Office might well have swallowed eagerly and uncritically. Cheney stated on Don Imus' MSNBC show in January 2005 that "Given the fact that Iran has a stated policy that their objective is the destruction of Israel, the Israelis might well decide to act first, and let the rest of the world worry about cleaning up the diplomatic mess afterwards." He implied that if the U.S. didn't take action against Iran, the Israelis might have to and be justified in doing so. AIPAC and neocon thinktank advocates of an Iran attack have the sympathetic ear of legislators in both parties. Despite setbacks and what thinking people might see as the thorough discrediting of the neocon faction resulting from the exposure of administration lies, the proponents of the broad neocon plan (the imposition of pro-U.S., Israel-friendly regimes throughout Southwest Asia) remains on track.

Cheney, Clemens states, is frustrated with Bush. Perhaps the mentor-disciple relationship he enjoyed with the younger, trusting, ignorant, impressionable president has waned over time. Perhaps Bush really believed the disinformation items placed on his desk by Douglas Feith, Abram Shulsky and the other Office of Special Plans operatives that have now been so well exposed, and now blames Cheney and his neocons for his embarrassment. Maybe he's been urged by dear friend Condi to question Cheney's judgment about Middle East policy. And maybe the most powerful vice-president in U.S. history in response to a cooling relationship is indeed persuing an "end run strategy" to realize the neocon agenda, leaving Bush out of the loop.

CONTINUED...

http://www.counterpunch.org/leupp05262007.html



Courtesy of the Bartcop collection:



"Does this mean we're goin' to jail, Unka Dick?"
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 05:36 PM
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20. Go Fish!
Beats me. :shrug:
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 11:05 PM
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89. CIA Started by NAZI Sympathizers and Staffed by NAZIs...
I know this is old hat for you and many DUers, Super Star.
What gets me is how few outside of DU know any of this.
Like the TV, it may be our history books need to be updated.

PRESIDENT TRUMAN DIDN’T KNOW THEY WERE BRINGING IN NAZIS
DULLES AND CO LIED TO HIM
DULLES WAS PRESCOTT BUSH’S “PARTNER” AND “LAWYER” ETC.

Know your BFEE: Nazis couldn’t win WWII, so they backed Bushes.

“Bush - Nazi Dealings Continued Until 1951” - Federal Documents

http://100777.com/node/585

Averell Harriman, Allen Dulles and Prescott Bush helped arm the NAZI regime in the years before World War II. They even kept at it through 1942.

http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/randy/swas5.htm

After the war, Allen Dulles became the #2 man at CIA, the straw-boss. He helped enlist tons of NAZIs in the fight against the godless Communists. In the process, oddly enough, he brought in tons of Soviet agents who'd already infiltrated the NAZIs.

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=15727

Great resource: http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB146/index.htm

Bush-Nazi Links

http://elandslide.org/display.cfm?id=319

I hate the NAZIs for millions of reasons. One of them was my grandfather's best friend.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 06:35 PM
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26. You're assuming Congress has any real authority anymore
The real power that backs Bush thinks he's doing just fine...
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 06:39 PM
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27. Bingo, Congress is irrelevant. nm
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 06:47 PM
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29. THIS Congress may be but CONGRESS is not.
The Democrats have some hard choices to make. I hope they make good ones.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 06:48 PM
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30. I hope you're right..but I fear Bush and his cronies have done far more
damage to our democratic institutions behind the scenes than any of us can imagine.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 06:54 PM
Original message
We can't live our fears. Hang in.
:toast:
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 09:52 AM
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66. Oh, I'm hanging in, but I'm also acknowledging an unpleasant truth
all the better to do something about it if possible.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 07:28 PM
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35. I don't think you understand. This congress is irrelevant because the corporations have
taken over the government and established a unitary executive (dictator). There may not be anymore relevant congresses until after the revolution.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 07:31 PM
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37. Oh, I do understand. And the unitary executive is
an extra constitutional POS.

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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 07:41 PM
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39. sorry what's POS? nm
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 07:44 PM
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40. In gentle terms, this is a theory that has been put forward by BushCo
and that can't withstand the light of day.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 01:10 AM
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54. In not gentle terms,
"POS" = "piece of shit".
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 11:19 PM
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90. What Congress really approved: Privatizing Iraq Oil
Money. Power.
They're the same to that Type.
"Two sides of the same coin, wot?"
And they own most all the coins.
From your work, I know you know that Dwayne.



What Congress Really Approved:

Benchmark No. 1: Privatizing Iraq's Oil for US Companies


By Ann Wright
t r u t h o u t | Guest Contributor
Saturday 26 May 2007

On Thursday, May 24, the US Congress voted to continue the war in Iraq. The members called it "supporting the troops." I call it stealing Iraq's oil - the second largest reserves in the world. The "benchmark," or goal, the Bush administration has been working on furiously since the US invaded Iraq is privatization of Iraq's oil. Now they have Congress blackmailing the Iraqi Parliament and the Iraqi people: no privatization of Iraqi oil, no reconstruction funds.

This threat could not be clearer. If the Iraqi Parliament refuses to pass the privatization legislation, Congress will withhold US reconstruction funds that were promised to the Iraqis to rebuild what the United States has destroyed there. The privatization law, written by American oil company consultants hired by the Bush administration, would leave control with the Iraq National Oil Company for only 17 of the 80 known oil fields. The remainder (two-thirds) of known oil fields, and all yet undiscovered ones, would be up for grabs by the private oil companies of the world (but guess how many would go to United States firms - given to them by the compliant Iraqi government.)

No other nation in the Middle East has privatized its oil. Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain and Iran give only limited usage contracts to international oil companies for one or two years. The $12 billion dollar "Support the Troops" legislation passed by Congress requires Iraq, in order to get reconstruction funds from the United States, to privatize its oil resources and put them up for long term (20- to 30-year) contracts.

What does this "Support the Troops" legislation mean for the United States military? Supporting our troops has nothing to do with this bill, other than keeping them there for another 30 years to protect US oil interests. It means that every military service member will need Arabic language training. It means that every soldier and Marine would spend most of his or her career in Iraq. It means that the fourteen permanent bases will get new Taco Bells and Burger Kings! Why? Because the US military will be protecting the US corporate oilfields leased to US companies by the compliant Iraqi government. Our troops will be the guardians of US corporate interests in Iraq for the life of the contracts - for the next thirty years.

With the Bush administration's "Support the Troops" bill and its benchmarks, primarily Benchmark No. 1, we finally have the reason for the US invasion of Iraq: to get easily accessible, cheap, high-grade Iraq oil for US corporations.

Now the choice is for US military personnel and their families to decide whether they want their loved ones to be physically and emotionally injured to protect not our national security, but the financial security of the biggest corporate barons left in our country - the oil companies.

http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/linkframe.php?linkid=35984



That's like what you wrote, back in 2003, Dwayne.



The March 15 Anti-War Protest in DC

That's One Helluva Focus Group


by Dwayne Eutsey and Mary

Saturday, March 15, 2003 -- Tens of thousands of antiwar demonstrators from around the country converged in the seat of power of the Bushevik Banana Republic again to participate in what strongman George W. Bush dismissively calls a "focus group."

The numbers may be in dispute (police estimate 50,000, organizers say 100,000), but as one speaker at the rally put it as he surveyed the spirited crowd thronged around the Washington Monument, "That's one helluva focus group."

Later, demonstrators jamming the streets and surrounding the tightly guarded area encompassing Lafayette Park, the White House and the Ellipse put it another way: "This is what democracy looks like!"

And what a powerful display of democracy it was, too. Despite the carefully scripted pro-war reality marketed by corporate-owned media, citizens traveled great distances (some for over 10 hours) just to go "off script" and voice their opposition to the impending Bushkrieg in one thunderous voice.

Busses arrived from as far away as Iowa, Michigan, Florida and elsewhere for the daylong event. Groups as diverse as America itself were represented as well. Ages ranged from parents carrying infants to veterans of World War II. I even saw signs that read:

    "Republicans for Sensible Foreign Policy" and "Republicans for Peace."

    "Make Coherent Sentences, Not War."


CONTINUED...

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/03/03/18_dc.html



The jig is up for these bedwetting bastards. The trick, for the Good Guys, will be keeping the monkey focused on his war while We the People approach from the other room. A couple of white-jacketed counselors, carrying straitjacket and hypos, backed by an army of FBI agents would make a might friendly intervention. More than he deserves.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 06:56 PM
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32. LOL!
:rofl:
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 07:30 PM
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36. Would you believe it's in the mail? nm
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 07:25 PM
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34. I didn't see torture or ending habeas corpus. And please don't forget
the children imprisoned in Taylor, TX.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-28-07 06:47 PM
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93. Bush Advisor Says President (sic) Has Legal Right to Torture Children
True. True. True.

All very true.

I'm very sorry I left those out. I didn't forget -- I just was in a stream of consciousness download.

Let me try to make up for it with a little Gonzales by the name of John Yoo:



Bush Advisor Says President (sic) Has Legal Right to Torture Children

John Yoo publicly argued there is no law that could prevent the President from ordering the torture of a child of a suspect in custody – including by crushing that child’s testicles.


By Philip Watts
Posted: 2006/01/09
From: revcom.us

01/08/06 "revcom.us" -- -- John Yoo publicly argued there is no law that could prevent the President from ordering the torture of a child of a suspect in custody – including by crushing that child’s testicles.

This came out in response to a question in a December 1st debate in Chicago with Notre Dame professor and international human rights scholar Doug Cassel.

What is particularly chilling and revealing about this is that John Yoo was a key architect post-9/11 Bush Administration legal policy. As a deputy assistant to then-Attorney General John Ashcroft, John Yoo authored a number of legal memos arguing for unlimited presidential powers to order torture of captive suspects, and to declare war anytime, any where, and on anyone the President deemed a threat.

It has now come out Yoo also had a hand in providing legal reasoning for the President to conduct unauthorized wiretaps of U.S. citizens. Georgetown Law Professor David Cole wrote, "Few lawyers have had more influence on President Bush’s legal policies in the 'war on terror’ than John Yoo."

This part of the exchange during the debate with Doug Cassel, reveals the logic of Yoo’s theories, adopted by the Administration as bedrock principles, in the real world.
    Cassel: If the President deems that he’s got to torture somebody, including by crushing the testicles of the person’s child, there is no law that can stop him?

    Yoo: No treaty.

    Cassel: Also no law by Congress. That is what you wrote in the August 2002 memo.

    Yoo: I think it depends on why the President thinks he needs to do that.


CONTINUED...

http://www.mathaba.net/0_index.shtml?x=504353



I also failed to mention the nutjob ignoring the needs of New Orleans and the Gulf Coast before, during and after Hurricane Katrina.

Most importantly: A hearty welcome to DU, rhett o rick! Didya ever read "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance?"
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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 07:34 PM
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38. Speaking of crazy monkey's, a while back I found this pic


I must say, it reminded me of the photo...




:evilgrin:


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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-28-07 11:30 PM
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95. That is one beautiful babboon, Kadie!
The smirking monkey next to the sweaty guy and in the bottom picture looks like a perfect match.



Perhaps we'll see them trans-myoo-tay-ted soon.

From Kung Fu Monkey...


Shorter Bush

You know, some people are rattled by this:

Pressed on why he thought this strategy would succeed where previous efforts had failed, Mr. Bush shot back: “Because it has to.”

They search for the best way to describe a President who engages in military policy opposed by his Joint Chiefs and contradicted by his own brand-new counterinsurgency policy, who doesn't seem to understand the difference between goals and strategy, recycles last year's "Plan for Victory" with more troops, and is apparently hell-bent on starting a war with Iran ... a man incapable of calculating risk versus reward, or even understanding that hope is not a plan ...

The geeks have it cold. The rest of you just won't get it, but --

VIDEO...

George Bush is Leeroy Jenkins, baby.

http://kfmonkey.blogspot.com/2007/01/shorter-bush.html



Dunno if it's good or bad -- old computer. Seems legit.

Then again, most Bushes aren't what they seem. They're worse.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 07:52 PM
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41. Because we live in the land of Oz.


The people are asleep.
The media does not exist, for all practical purposes.
The Congress has moved to the right. (And what would one expect from an average net worth of $9 million per congressman?)

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cymbalta Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 08:53 PM
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42. why?
because Americans were betrayed last November. We thought we were voting for an opposition party.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 09:21 PM
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45. I guess we thought wrong...
Well said!

Welcome to DU!! :hi:

Good question from the OP! Why is that lunatic STILL in office?? Beats me!!

I guess Pelosi knows the answer to that, as she's the one who took impeachment off the table...





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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 09:20 PM
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44. To get rid of Bush the truth of his actions would have to be owned up to
Edited on Sat May-26-07 09:22 PM by Solly Mack
and in a country that calls crimes "mistakes made", that ain't gonna happen.


People can shout until they are blue in the face that "This IS the truth!" - but unless government admits the truth, nothing will happen.

Government is calling Bush's crimes, "mistakes made".



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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-28-07 11:21 PM
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94. ''Government is calling Bush's crimes 'mistakes made'.''
They won't even call the guy a liar.



Bush Watch - Bush Lies

You are absolutely correct, Solly Mack. These are crimes, not mistakes.

By failing to impeach, Congress is obstructing Justice.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 09:33 PM
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46. number one......
I LOVE You Octafish!

:loveya:


Number two.....one has to ask just where bush had all of that help. It is apparent the help is now from both parties and how fucking sad is that?

:(
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 10:01 PM
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48. He's built up an immunity to the tranquilizer darts
They just SAY he goes to bed at 9pm. He's REALLY up all night, pacing across the ceiling.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 01:12 AM
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55. You forgot to list Katrina war crimes--
created a refugee crisis in our own borders. Our modern-day Nero who fiddled while NOLA flooded.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 01:14 AM
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56. I Have This Little Theory Here...


:shrug::evilgrin::shrug:
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 01:21 AM
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57. Because the powers that support Bush also support the Democratic leadership.
Edited on Sun May-27-07 01:21 AM by Kablooie
Until they get fed up, nothing will happen.

If they DO get fed up, Bush will be gone instantly.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 01:21 AM
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58. These Pubs are a Death Wish. Self Destruct Mode.....
They are an UNHAPPY Bunch...and they wanna share their Misery....thus the best way to do this ...is to support BUSH...Mission Accomplished...Misery has been spread....
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 11:29 PM
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91. Reagan wrote Hatch went to bat for Moon
These nutjobs really want Chimpageddon.

From John Gorenfeld:



Reagan: Sorry, Orrin, no pardon for Moon

By John Gorenfeld Fri May 25, 2007 at 05:11:53 PM EST
topic: Church/State Separation section:Front Page print this story

From the Salt Lake Tribune, a discovery in the Reagan diaries that sheds light on Orrin Hatch's surprising recent turn writing a tune for the 2004 Crown Of Peace campaign.
    "Senator Hatch is after me to grant clemency to the Rev. Moon," Reagan wrote in a Dec. 24, 1984 entry. "I've explored this & find I just can't...


WASHINGTON - President Reagan wrote twice in his personal diary that he was worried about Sen. Orrin Hatch, once because the Utah Republican was "on a thin edge" and another time when Hatch turned the tables on the White House and attacked Reagan's staff.

Then-Nevada Sen. Paul Laxalt "has agreed to call Orin Hatch (sic) who has suddenly gone off the reservation & is throwing rocks at me & the exec. Staff," Reagan wrote in a Nov. 10, 1987 diary entry.

...

Hatch made another appearance in Reagan's diary over the senator's efforts to get a pardon for the Rev. Sun Yung Moon, the founder of the Unification Church who was convicted of filing false income tax returns and conspiracy. Hatch objected to the jailing of Moon on grounds that it came close to violating his freedom of religion rights.
    "Senator Hatch is after me to grant clemency to the Rev. Moon," Reagan wrote in a Dec. 24, 1984 entry. "I've explored this & find I just can't. I have, however taken action to see if I can grant him a furlough over New Years. It seems that day is the holiest in that religion."


CONTINUED...

http://www.talk2action.org/story/2007/5/25/171153/217



Have you heard about Chris Hedges' work regarding Christian Fascism?

These aren't nice people who have killed so many innocent people.

It's good to remember they also want to kill us.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 01:48 AM
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59. Why that's because of the first E in BFEE having its temporary reign imo.
Plus a mind controlled compromised corrupted Congress ruled by the shadow government and a perception managed ahistorical mass of people divided by design to keep effective organized opposition at bay-yet even while all that seems to be failing there is the Decider destroying and rewarding--it's a paradox.

And my comment to those that say God put him in the WH-obviously it was to punish the nation and the world, perhaps it's the time of the season of the first E in the BFEE brother Octafish, kind of like the temporary world ruler that worships the "fortress god" mentioned in Daniel 11.

OTOH, I could be wrong about some of my beliefs-but these are truly evil times. And there are Holy Wars, Jihads, Crusades, fatwas and other forms of spiritual warfare openly being conducted 24/7 regardless of what people have as belief systems.

Why is this NAZI influenced shadow government privatizing or destroying everything it can with George Walker Bush occupying the WH???



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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 05:24 AM
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60. Aha-the crimes Congress refuses to Impeach for.
Here's a few more for your list...

LIHOP or MIHOP = 9/11
911 Responders dying of toxins from debris.
Katrina = Genocide.
3400+ U.S. Troops dead for a LIE.
650,000 Iraqis dead for a LIE.
Bankruptcy Bill
Attempts to destroy Social Security & Medicare
New Eminent Domain Law
Death of Habeas Corpus

p.s....this list is endless. :puke:




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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 05:30 AM
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61. No BJ's? nt
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ejbr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 07:53 AM
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62. "TRIED TO STEAL THE ELECTION OF 2006". - WRONG!
Apparently, he DID steal enough seats of Congress in 2006. Enough, according to sources I trust (blackbox.org or something), that they prevented the Democrats from getting a veto-proof majority. The cheating is still working, and the Dems don't make any noise about it. Go figure.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 02:47 PM
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78. We'll never know how much they shaved in 2006, I agree. n/t
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 09:24 AM
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63. ours is the most corrupt society in history....
it is as vicious and dishonest and cowardly as anything ever seen before. It's not just Geeb (that's john ellis bush, or 'jeb's, brother, gettit?) but the entire falsity built into the construct-columbus never discovered america, a large sophisticated population lived/worked everywhere 'explorers' went, newsmedia has always been a servant of the pig, and there's no choice but to press on to total victory, or total ruin. Yes, Japan was trying to surrender when ABombs dropped, yes JFK was murdered by gangsters within the MIC, yes watergate was illegal overthrow of the US gov, yes reagan never elected, yes the 2000 election was preplanned theft, yes 911 was a staged fx movie, yes yes yes yes! But the OFFICIAL STORY remains, and upon it hinges whatever hope society has-even if only 1/10th of people agree with the OS, it's enough, but clinton, the dems, carter, wall street and main street MUST SUBSCRIBE TO OFFICIAL STORY, or it collapse and if it does; well it don't HAVE TO! Gettit! Now you can understand tony blair, or john howard. NOW we can take chris hitchens, or bill krystol, or horowitz, or coulter, oreally, limbah, the foxnews/cnn lying liars; NOW it all adds up! We must press ahead to total victory, or total ruin, cuz if the herd gets away from our control, then (???)
They lie cuz they have to. NO other reason is necessary. THEY (WE) have to!
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 09:25 AM
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64. Luck
Of course, there's more to it than that, he had help and character assassins at his beck and call and he had powerful backers who have really been running things (W is the very definition of "useful idiot") but mainly, luck.

He was lucky enough to have an opposition party in dissaray fighting themselves. Same reason Thatcher wouldn't have succeeded if the Labour party hadn't been determined to self-destruct; same way Blair couldn't have destroyed the Labour party if the Tories hadn't been self-destructing; same way LaPen couldn't have got as far as he did had the French establishment not virtually ignored him; same way Clinton probably wouldn't have had the same success if the Republicans (under Newt) hadn't self-destructed by throwing away public support.

We tend to ignore it when we talk about politics but, much as we don't like to admit it, luck has a big part to play.
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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 11:14 AM
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69. He's not in charge.
He's a figurehead. The military-industrial complex, fronted by Cheney, is in charge.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 11:23 AM
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70. Reply from Congress: ... (crickets)
Edited on Sun May-27-07 11:25 AM by Amonester
disheartening (to say the very least)

DUer's: send them this, over and over, until they "wake the f**k up before it's too late" and actually DO something against this war criminal and his cronies.

thank you!
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specimenfred1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 11:25 AM
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71. Nobody even mentions torture anymore, torture is a major war crime
that puts the chimpleton administration on par with the worst regimes in history.
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Edgeoforever Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 12:16 PM
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72. yeah, what you said! Why?
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 01:31 PM
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74. Actually Dumbya is not in charge, Dick Cheney has taken much of the power
...and Shrub* just thinks he is the decider. Remove Cheney first and Bush will implode
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 01:44 PM
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75. I am not quite sure of that, I think both of them, and Gonezo, and...
CONdy, and Rummy, and Wolfy, and the whole bunch of PNAC gangsters, and their war profiters, and MIC+bigoil's see-eee-ows, as well as most of their corporate enablers, either on "talk-radio" or in corporate m$m are all evil torturers for greed. If we the people don't "remove" them all, they'll keep on "rising" back.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 02:52 PM
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79. Now you are talking Agent Orange type defoliation of the political
....landscape! I like that for the long term, but the immediate focus still needs to be how to get power back into the hands of a democratic majority congress. Just impeach Cheney and that action will stop his power grab and keep him tied up in court well beyond his and Bush's term in office. Then Bush will have a total nervous breakdown and the whole house of cards set up by the neoconservative power base which is teetering right now will cave in completely.
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 02:34 PM
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76. Because he's in the rich clique
and he does thier bidding just like Congress (with very rare exceptions).
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 03:04 PM
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81. That's a mean looking penguin-cat!
I'd like to see Dickless Cheney do hand-to-hand combat with a dozen of them. :)



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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 03:08 PM
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82. Because we leave him in charge
If you work for a multinational, you were giving him support.
If you work for a company that is owned by a multinational, you were giving him support.
If you had money invested in stocks and bonds, you were giving him support.
If you or your health insurance poured money into big pharma, you were giving him support.
If you buy lots of cheap stuff produced/shipped via "free trade", you were giving him support.
If you got caught up in the housing boom, you were giving him support.
If you bought an SUV, you were giving him support.
If you supported mealymouthed corrupt politicians, you were giving him support.

He was emphatically voted in - by DOLLARS, not by votes.

If a substantial number of American business leaders ORGANIZED themselves, stepped up to Congress, and said "war crimes trials or YOU are out of here", he'd be on trial for war crimes.

If we stop feeding his supporters dollars, he will fall.
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 03:18 PM
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83. The purist in me does not like the defaming of the penguin like that
It is very unkind to the penguin world.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 03:28 PM
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84. It's not enough to ask Congress to get to work.
It's not even enough to DEMAND that "Congress" get to work.

Unfortunately, the individuals who make up the Congress know with absolute certainty that even if they do not do the will of the people who elected them, NOTHING WILL HAPPEN. NOTHING. NOT A GODDAMNFUCKING THING.

Do you think they care about the rantings and ravings of a few thousand radicals (if there are even that many) on DemocraticUnderground.com? If you aren't in their district, they won't even take your emailed rage. And a good many of us live in states where we don't even have a Democratic senator to make up for being in puke congressional districts. I fall into that category.

In spite of the shift to Dems in the '06 election, the margin in the Senate remains fragile and it's not overwhelming in the House. They don't have the power to over-ride a booooosh veto. booooosh-cheeeeeney still holds more power than the will of the electorate. That's the reality, and that's what we have to deal with.

Shit for Brains is still squatting in the White House and still calling the plays on the field because the citizenry hasn't become angry enough to force him out. There are no massive desertions from the military of a scope to make continued warfare impossible. The members of the national guard are still reporting for duty, still being killed, still leaving their local communities and states unprotected when they face natural disasters.

The oil companies are still raking in billions because the citizenry hasn't got the backbone, the intestinal fortitude, to simply stop driving. Not for a day or even a week. But to sit down and map out an individual and then a community strategy for making MAJOR cuts in oil usage. It's not just gasoline, folks. It's toys and sneakers and lawn chairs and fertilizer and plastic bags at the grocery store. It's heating our homes and offices, or cooling same.

In case anyone has forgotten, the millions upon millions upon millions who marched in March 2003 weren't able with all their united voices to stop the invasion of Iraq. The dung heaps in the government do not care what we think, they do not care how many emails or faxes or even stamped snail-mail letters we send. They do not listen to us. They only respond to two things: money and force. So far, the tax cuts have put the money exactly where they want it -- into the hands of the already filthy rich and into the war machine. They care about NOTHING else. NOTHING.

And they know that the American people are not revolutionaries. They know we will not storm the "Bastille" at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. They know we are essentially law-abiding citizens who do not take the law into our own hands. They know this, and they rely on it to keep themselves in power, no matter how often or how egregiously they snub their noses at the very people who put them in power.

Those of us who still scream that we have not gotten over the stolen election of 2000 are fooling only ourselves, and I include myself. We have indeed gotten over it. We have lived with it for over six years now, offering no real resistance. Few of us have risked going to jail over it, fewer still have mounted any kind of real opposition. We gripe and we bitch and we gnash our teeth, but in the end, we get over it, we accept it, indeed very much like battered spouses who cannot find the spine to leave the abusers. And in our day to day actions, when we go to the market for groceries, when we go to work, when we do just about anything, we ultimately support the system that is dedicated to our destruction.

Tansy Gold




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avrdream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 03:38 PM
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85. What an amazing thread.
Not just the pictures, but the analysis as well.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 10:50 PM
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87. I thought you were talking about Chavez, the other crazy authoriarian monkey
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