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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 02:20 PM
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Patrick Fitzgerald responds to critics regarding Plame's status, length of investigation
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 02:23 PM
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1. Thanks Sabra!
Did Fitzgerald say anything about the blond he was seen with the other night? :)
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 03:00 PM
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5. Is this true?
Does this mean I have to dye my hair blonde to get his attention? I thought my being Irish was enough to catch his eye.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 03:17 PM
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9. Sigh! Read it and weep, my friend.....
Pssst? Pssst?
Buzz Buzz: So, who was the the young, gorgeous blond with the long locks and knockout figure accompanying U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald to the Chicago Legal Clinic awards dinner Friday night at the Chicago Hilton, where he was honored with the Cardinal Bernardin Award? Inquiring minds want to know. • • Sneedless to say, I'd like a nickel for every single female who's told me Fitzgerald would be an amazing catch.


http://www.suntimes.com/news/sneed/395519,CST-NWS-SNEED22.article
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 03:20 PM
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11. Oh no!
:cry:
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 02:24 PM
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2. As always, no frills,
no nonsense.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 02:29 PM
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3. Glad He's Fighting Back
This needs to be said.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 02:31 PM
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4. Get thee to the Greatest page
Thanks.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 03:01 PM
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6. Of course they wanted it ended
he was getting close to the truth....And by the way bush is yelling for the investigations in congress to end. After all he said they are just, again, political theater....Boy he should know what that is, shouldn't he.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 03:03 PM
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7. printing this sucker for later reading
:)
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 03:04 PM
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8. K & R!
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 03:18 PM
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10. I still find no logic in no charges being filed for the original crime
He says up front it definately happened. She was covert, the Administration outed her. There is no doubt it happened and who did it. I always thought that would be a crime. I grew up believing a covert agent's identity was a National secret and a crime to disclose it. No matter whether intentional or not. I grew believing that "ignorance was no excuse in the eyes of the law" It was also apparent that it was a concerted effeort to give out this information as a sort of smear. Why have no charges been filed. There should be charges of treason in my book...but something anyway. Now I am not sure what to believe about our Law and Order system. Is it illegal or isn't it? Can anyone out a CIA agent and get away with it? Russians probably love hearing this...
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 05:38 PM
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12. "There is no doubt it happened and who did it." Fitzgerald is saying that there IS,
and that the reason is Libby's lying and obstruction. There is a big difference between you, me or a prosecutor being personally convinced that a crime took place and who did it, and being able to PROVE it in a court of law. Read Fitzgerald's filing again. A short translation would be this: Libby is "falling on his sword" for Dick Cheney, and his lying and obstruction prevented the prosecution from getting the goods on Cheney and clearly understanding the conspiracy to out Plame (and--notably, in my opinion, the entire Brewster-Jennings WMD counterproliferation network). They committed a crime; they got away with it because Libby OBSTRUCTED and continues to obstruct the prosecutor's clear view of the perpetrators (and, of course, access to evidence against Cheney, such as Libby's knowledge of their conversations and of Cheney's actions).

Check-mate. Libby is covering for Cheney.

There is more to it than this--that goes beyond the specific matter of Libby's conviction and sentencing. For instance, the current AG of the US, Alberto Gonzales, when he was WH counsel, gave the perps a 12 hour heads up to shred documents and burn hard-drives. And we now know that that is only one of many crimes that Gonzales is likely guilty of. Fitzgerald has been operating in a poisonous and highly dangerous atmosphere of massive crime on the part of those ABOVE HIM. He cannot appeal to the president. He cannot appeal to the vice president. He cannot appeal to the attorney general. All are involved in COVERING UP this crime. In this context, he was able to pinpoint ONE of the obstructors--probably a designated "fall guy" (Libby)--and nail him on his lies. But until Bush, Cheney and Gonzales suddenly turn into honest men (or somebody rats on them), or until Congress takes this on, there is no breaking this conspiracy.

Fitzgerald got past the Rove cover story. I applaud him for that. Cheney was the main perp in this crime, on the political end of things. (I think Rumsfeld was the mastermind, however.*). And Rove more than likely was, in this case, merely one of the political operatives. Indeed, there is evidence that Cheney/Libby tried to set Rove up as the "fall guy." (Rove, a wily maneuverer, saw that coming, and quickly went back to the Grand Jury to head it off.) The Rove cover story was that Rove did the outing for political revenge. A very believable cover story, but not the truth. Political revenge was more than likely a MINOR part of this conspiracy--which has much more to do with the operational plotting of Rumsfeld's Office of Special Plans and Cheney's and Rumsfeld's moves to destroy the independence and professional judgment of the CIA, and to thereby be able to cook intelligence for their own warmongering purposes.

These larger matters--the overarching conspiracy to perpetrate an unjust war--are very, very difficult for an individual prosecutor to address--especially given that the perpetrators are still in power, still lying, still committing crimes, still covering their own asses and politicizing the Justice Department (which has become little more than a criminal enterprise itself), and, furthermore, with the new Democratic Congress dashing everyone's hopes that THEY would go after these criminals and end their heinous war. Prosecutors can only do so much to bring such high placed criminals to justice. Ultimately, it is a matter of political will, and, although the American people are sick to death of this war and this crime regime, our leaders, apparently, are not.

In this document, Fitgerald seems to me to be signaling as well as he can, under the circumstances, that Cheney is the one who should be going to jail--and would be, but for Libby's lies and obstruction. Who is he signaling to? The political establishment, and the American people. Notice how many times he mentions the gravity of this matter due, he says, to its connection to the vice president.

There is also the possibility that Fitzgerald's limited prosecution is something of a cover up, in itself. But there is little evidence to support that hypothesis, and there is much reason to believe his narrative (above) as a straightforward account of what happened: Libby PREVENTED him from getting to the next level--Cheney--and should go to jail for it, because (implied) he is STILL obstructing the investigation. (Fitzgerald granted immunity to others, and probably offered immunity to Libby, to break the conspiracy. But Libby continued to obstruct.)

If you want to blame someone for why the crime of treason has not been prosecuted--when treason was committed--blame Libby.

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*(The Bushite with the main operational interest in purging the CIA of honest professionals was Rumsfeld. Personally, I think the outing of Plame and Brewster-Jennings was connected to Rumsfeld's OSP operations: the forging of the Niger nuke documents, and possibly a plot to PLANT nukes in Iraq--to be "discovered" by the US troops who were searching for WMDs--as a followup to the forged documents. Someone foiled Part 2 of that plot, obviously. No WMDs were found. And the B/J counter-proliferation network of covert agents/contacts around the world--the network that the Bushites specifically outed in a SECOND column by Novak (after Plame was outed)--is a good candidate for who might have foiled those plans. The Rumsfeld idea would have been to justify the war, in retrospect, by a "find" of the weapons, to cement Bush/Blair's political positions, and move on to the NEXT completely unjustified war: Iran. Further, the Plame/B-J outings have a smell of panic about them, and may have been connected to the death of the British top WMD expert, David Kelly, in the same week that Plame was outed. He had been whistleblowing to the BBC about the "sexed up" prewar WMD intelligence at the same time as Wilson. Kelly was found dead four days after Plame was outed; his office and computers were searched; and, four days later, after his body was discovered (a highly suspicious death), B-J was ADDITIONALLY outed, putting all of its agents/contacts at extreme peril. These would be deep cover people in foreign governments who were tasked with spotting unusual WMD activity, and preventing WMDs from getting into the wrong hands. The Bushites, by naming Plame's front company in Novak's second column, pointed a gun at their heads.)

(The Rovian political revenge story, re the Plame outing, can thus be seen as a cover story, for these deeper, currently hard-to-see crimes. Fitzgerald got past that story, and understood that it was a Cheney-led conspiracy. But--if the above theory is true--Cheney was running the political end of the conspiracy--and still is--while Rumsfeld ran the operational end of it. Also, Rumsfeld's FAILURE to plant and "discover" the nukes in Iraq has resulted in serious political and legal problems for Cheney and Bush, which may be why Rumsfeld is the one who is gone.)

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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 11:23 PM
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13. as usual, excellent analysis
Edited on Tue May-29-07 11:34 PM by sabra
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 01:06 AM
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14. Interesting...
Edited on Wed May-30-07 01:07 AM by cui bono

Thanks for the type of post that brings me to this site. Very informative.

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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 01:14 AM
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15. Thanks for posting.
I'm bookmarking to finish reading later. (For some reason the text is hurting my eyes tonight)

K&R
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