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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 04:19 PM
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Bush's Surgeon General nominee. Holy Shit!
http://scienceblogs.com/effectmeasure/2007/05/surgeon_general_nominee_holy_s.php

Bush's Surgeon General nominee. Holy Shit!
Category: Federal health
Posted on: May 29, 2007 3:26 PM, by revere

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Meet Dr. James Holsinger, currently Health Director in Kentucky, former Chief Medical Director of the VA and, not incidentally, president of the United Methodist Church's high court, its Judicial Council. He's has a medical doctor and PhD (anatomy) from Duke and, of course, his most important qualification for a health post in the Bush administration, a theologian. Not an amateur one. A real one. He has a master's degree in biblical studies from Asbury Theological Seminary. So he's religious. Very religious. Bible studies. That doesn't mean it will affect his policy views as Surgeon General. The Bush administration wouldn't stand for that:

President Bush's choice for surgeon general likely will face questions about his stands on AIDS, sex education and abortion during the confirmation process, various political and religious activists say.

In the early 1990s, Holsinger resigned from the denomination's Committee to Study Homosexuality because he believed the committee "would follow liberal lines," according to Time magazine. At the time, he warned that acceptance of homosexuality would drive away millions of churchgoers.

As a member of the Judicial Council, he voted with the majority in 2005 that a Virginia pastor could deny church membership to an openly gay man. (Frank Lockwood, Arkansas Democrat-Gazette religions editor)

The nominee, Kentucky cardiologist Dr. James Holsinger, serves as president of the United Methodist Church's high court, its Judicial Council, and has made his negative views on homosexuality known for nearly two decades.
..much more..
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 04:21 PM
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1. For the love of all that's holy, could we get someone sane for once?
This guy sounds like a quack--like he should go back to seminary and re-read parts of the Gospels instead of practice medicine.
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 04:24 PM
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3. Disease is caused by sin, dontcha know?
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 04:27 PM
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6. *sigh*
Too many believe that.
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 04:44 PM
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13. The sin of Eve was rewarded with the pain of childbirth. Adam never missed his rib.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 05:14 PM
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18. The sin of Adam was rewarded with hard labor.
Just to be technical. Still doesn't seem fair.
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StarryNite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 04:29 PM
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9. Ha! If that were true * would
be on his deathbed.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 09:17 PM
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28. But Bush never got the knowledge of good & evil.
Or anything else.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 04:23 PM
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2. Is the Senate actually going
to confirm this guy? For once please let them say no.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 04:26 PM
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5. He'll get in.
We need to keep our powder dry.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 04:41 PM
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12. Sorry forgot about that powder
It was being saved for something really important like a Supreme court opening wasn't it.

Opps, they missed that one. Must have rained.

But they didn't have the majority then and now they do.

But it's too small of a majority now so they need more. Then they will use that powder. They will, they said they would. As soon as those Republicans join them it will all be ok again.


Damn, we are majorly F@#7*@d.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 06:06 PM
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26. Have a little perspective, eh?
You act like every Democrat in Congress was falling all over themselves to help Bush. The reality is that in the Senate, so long as the Republicans stay in lock-step behind Junior, it only takes one single Dem to break any vote in the Repubs favor. And we have a lot more moderates than one: Nelson, Lieberman, Landreu, others. Not to mention one Dem who's out with a traumatic brain injury. So it's dishonest to act like the Dems could stop Bush any time they like on any issue, and they just choose not to.
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 04:26 PM
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4. Absolutely NO
This country has had enough of religious ideologues who don't seem to be capable of holding their own personal religious beliefs as a standard for themselves - and instead claim that they cannot "practice" their religious without making it policy for everyone else.

One of the reasons the United States is in such a deep quagmire is because this Administration has continually attempted to flood all of our public institutions with rightwing religious ideologues. I will not have my citizenship demeaned on the basis of someone else's "religious" choices.

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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 04:28 PM
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7. Bring 'em on
I got a hunch this won't go as smoothly as Commander AWOL & chickenhawk republicon cronies expect...
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northernsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 04:34 PM
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10. I wonder what skeletons will turn up in his closet
It's almost axiomatic that right-wing authoritarians who are obsessed with other people's sex lives usually have some pretty freaky predilictions of their own.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 04:28 PM
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8. Oh dear God!
Edited on Tue May-29-07 04:32 PM by Nikki Stone1
Not another one.

:kick: and Recommend #1
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 04:34 PM
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11. The nutcase "christian" republicans have turned me away from the church.
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PuppyBismark Donating Member (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 04:45 PM
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14. If the DEMS approve this one, it is time for a third party
There is no way this person should be surgeon general. Not ever!!!!!!

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
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liberal renegade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 05:14 PM
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17. Because he shouldn't be confirmed
is why he'll be confirmed. Typical
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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 05:07 PM
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15. JUST MORE EVANGELICAL SLIME
YOU EXPECTED A MODERATE PROFESSIONAL MAYBE????????????????????????
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silverlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 05:08 PM
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16. A big umbrella with a lot of holes in it...
that's my Methodist Church.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 05:19 PM
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19. Luckily
it's hard to imagine a less-important federal position.
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Gatchaman Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 05:20 PM
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20. This is just somebody else for the incoming democratic president to fire
Edited on Tue May-29-07 05:21 PM by Gatchaman
and the media smear machine can paint our new, reality based president as "highly partisan", and his/her move "unprecidented".

Fortunately, the surgeon general has little real power.
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 05:21 PM
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21. Oh. My. Goddess...
Just another religious nutjob... Hello, Democratic Senate? Time to use that powder and blow this nomination away!
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 05:28 PM
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22. I also believe there is a matter of embezzlement.
http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/analysis/214


Last year, a Methodist pastor blasted Dr. Holsinger for essentially trying to embezzle some $20 million from the Methodist Church through a charity Holsinger chairs. Holsinger has lost in court twice on the matter but continues to appeal through the legal system.

The coup de grace of the Dr. Holsinger story is his more than $16,000 in political donations since 1998 – all to Republicans, including George W. Bush. You can bet Cheney also had a role in the appointment since Dr. Holsinger specializes in cardiology.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 05:44 PM
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23. Here we go again.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 05:46 PM
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24.  " essentially trying to embezzle some $20 million "
is that all?


:sarcasm:
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 06:16 PM
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27. the Republicans should be embarrassed at someone with so little
greed.

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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 05:49 PM
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25. What a filthy scumbag nt
nt
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 09:21 PM
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29. Who has a number for a good witch doctor?
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 09:45 PM
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30. Does he do video diagnoses?
If he doesn't recognize the genetic link in homosexuality can he be a real doctor?
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