President Gore!

[Matariki]

i needed to say that.

that is all.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/

[davidwparker]

1. He's not ruled it out. I saw his interview on Countdown.

[Doremus]

50. I missed him on Countdown, so I hunted up the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i_stjDAGPo

That's my president!

[femmocrat]

2. Has a familiar ring to it, doesn't it? n/t

[Matariki]

4. He was wearing his BLUE tie

and not his black on black suit. I think he's decided to run.

[AlGore-08.com]

24. LOL... the BLUE tie, for those who missed it

[Rosa Luxemburg]

45. It's a sign, it's a sign!

[napi21]

3. I realize Gore is a very smart guy, but tell me something.

I too watched the interview on Countdown. WHY does Gore always sound like he's so carefully watching EVERY WORD he says instead of just talking. There's no way in hell anyone is going to convince me that he talks that way when he's conversing with his wife, kids, and friends! I saw it again tonight! THAT'S why he lost in 2000! Some called it stiff, some called it elite. I have no idea what it is, but it seems when he gets near a mike, someone sticks a rod up his................

[Matariki]

6. Because people pick apart the smallest thing

and everything has to be carefully weighed - or apologized for later on.

Don't know if you've ever had the unfortunate experience of being interviewed by the press but damn if they won't print most of what you say out of context, etc.

[napi21]

9. I understand that, but Al's been in public life for a lot of years.

I could accept that reaction from a new guy...somebody who has little to no experience speaking in public or in front of a camera and mike. I simply can't accept it from a seasoned politician! As much as I really doubt he will run in 08, I was sort of hoping he might after watching some of his firey presentations about the dishonesty of this administration. I realize ithey were prepared speeches, but there was no hesitation between his words, no couching. He spoke, sometimes yelled the passion he was feeling.

If THAT Al Gore doesn't appear on the campaign trail, I think we all better hope he decides for sure NOT to run!

[Matariki]

12. I did notice what you're saying when I was watching it

BUT I was focused on the words he was saying - and I liked what I heard. A lot.

If anything - his careful parsing of words, his white shirt and blue tie made me think he's decided to run. And I think that's just great.

[KoKo]

34. He was very "uptight" in that interview. Very cautious.

And, I think Olbermann watchers who might not know much about what Gore has been saying about the Bushie Regime in the past years might have been disappointed in the way he spoke.

I got a chill that maybe he has decided to run...and too soon if he's going to muzzle himself which always makes him come off badly.

BUT..after I thought about it I think when Olbermann started off about Sheehan...and Gore was silent about her ...it was because he knew if he said anything it would be all over the Blogs the next day.

I would like for him to have praised her for standing up...I think he would have if he hadn't decided he would run...and that decision caused him to give him to that uncomfortable interview. I hope he wont muzzle himself so tightly in the future...but he knows what he's up against and is focused on his book. It's hard not to get dragged into the Horse Race and have folks like MoDo calling you the "Goracle" who eats too much clam dip'...as she trashed him in the NYT's. :shrug:

[Matariki]

44. I think you are right.

If you watch the other clip, "Al Gore on 2008", he's not stiff at all.

He definitely was being careful around the questions Olbermann was asking about Cindy Sheehan. I'm willing to speculate that it wasn't a calculated political thing - I get the feeling it was a balance of respect for her and perhaps very much not agreeing with some of her message. He's very focused on being proactive, on what people can do to bring about change, and Cindy Sheehan just issued a very (understandably) dispirited, 'nothing we do matters' message. Plus her the criticism of the Democratic leadership - he spoke praisingly of Pelosi and Reid and addressed the difficult situation they're in with not having enough votes to overcome Bush's veto. Perhaps it was like being stuck between two arguing friends - you want to parse your words carefully?

[Virginia Dare]

38. Except if your name is George Bush...

99.9% of what comes out of his mouth makes no sense whatsoever, and most of the time he acts like he's drunk or stoned or both. He's insulted world leaders on a regular basis, and never apologizes for any of it. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

[partylessinOhio]

7. What does it matter? We would all be a million times better off than

with the jerk we have impersonating a chief executive.

I don't care about the manner and pattern of his speech. As far as I know he has stolen no elections, has started no wars and has caused no deaths.

[RestoreGore]

8. Thank you, I noticed that as well

He was not confortable and relaxed like he was with Jon Stewart. I truly think discussing politics now makes him feel uncomfortable and he did sound different, though his answers about the book were spot on. I didn't like the fact also that it looked like he had too much make up on ( I guess those lights get pretty hot?) It certainly was not relaxed like his appearances on The Daily Show and David Letterman, and I could tell at the end that he was getting a bit frazzled with the continuous bombardment again regarding running (like we haven't heard that before) and Keith Olberman even asking him if he could give him a date when the "door would close." Say what? Who else has to put up with this on a daily basis? I personally think it is getting ridiculous at this point. No questions about Live Earth, or his other endeavors or anything else he has planned. Just the same getting him there to ask "the question" by using his book as the pretext.

[Matariki]

15. ps - did you click the 'Al Gore on 2008' link?

interestingly he doesn't speak with any hesitation in this portion.

I actually think he was being very careful specifically around the questions about Cindy Sheehan. I think he didn't want to conceed to any of her 'giving up' and yet not be disrespectful.

[Rydz777]

16. The Time Mag profile said that he is not at all stiff in private, very

relaxed, engaging, and congenial, but that in public he tends to go into a kind of "courtly southern" mode. I would add that he didn't lose in 2000. He won the popular vote substantially - and, I strongly believe, he would again if he ran.

[napi21]

19. Stop handing me the BS about "he won" in 2000.

IMO, his handlers, attorney advisors, or SOMEONE told Al to only contest "some counties" in Fl in the vote recount. I said at the time, and I still believe, the entire State should have been recounted! Yes it was a risk for both candidates, but just damn do it and take your chances. That's NOT what Al's advisors told him to do. They wanted to only recount "some counties"! If they had recounted the entire State of Fl, Gore would have won!

Now, what in the world is a "courtly southern mode"? I've lived in the shouth for 20 years now, and I've not met anyone who speaks soooo carefully as Al does when he's on camera.

And by now we should all be able to admit that winning the popular vote doesn't matter! Remember that Electoral College?

I'm sorry folks, but I still feel if Al can't get comfortable in front of a camera and a mike, he just shouldn't be our candidate! I'd much rather hear a candidate who'se comfortable enough to talk like he's a real person, and makes a mis-speak once in a while.

[phiddle]

22. Your point about Florida is both mistaken and moot.

Mistaken, because Florida law specified that a candidate must request recounts on a county by county basis, and have some degree of evidence that the original count was inaccurate. Bush countered by claiming that it would be unfair to HIM to recount only 4 counties, and requested no recount. So the Florida Supreme Court ruled that the entire state should be recounted, thereby taking into account Al's 4 counties, and Bush's objection.
Every ballot in the state was trucked to Tallahassee and was being counted under judicial supervision, and the Fed Court of Appeals in Atlanta upheld the decision. (This is where your point is moot.) Up to this point everything was fine for Al, but Scalia, the judge responsible for Fla stepped in (Dec 9th?) and ordered the counting stopped pending the Supreme Court's review of the case. This was a double dagger, because not only did it expose Gore to losing the case (as he did), but it guaranteed that the vote count would not be finished by the statutory deadline of Dec 12.

PS: It's NOT BS that he won...if the Scalia and the Supremes had not acted as they did, he wins Florida AND the electoral college.

[Matariki]

23. Thank you for posting this.

When the votes were finally counted (paid for by certain media outlets no less) it was shown that Gore had won the Florida election by a small margin. Therefore not only did he win the popular vote, he also should have won the electoral vote.

Since Napi21's reasoning was that Gore lost the election because of his speaking ability, the popular vote is really the one that should be considered in supporting that argument anyway.

Gore won the popular vote in 2000 - his manner of speech did not cost him the popular election and he's only gotten better.

[On the Road]

39. Hindsight is 20-20

Gore did what almost all politicians do under those laws. That's why they were set up that way. Gore didn't fold -- he got both kinds of advice, chose the limited recount, and pursued it as far as the law would allow him.

Bush, BTW, did the same thing in New Mexico (recounting one county) at exactly the same time he was crying foul for Gore being selective about the Florida recount.

[snappyturtle]

43. How can we pick on Al Gore for his manner of speaking?

He thinks! Maybe we've forgotten that while listening to *......* comes out like the good ol' boy and leans on the podium as if he were taking us in to his private "thoughts". No, I like Gore just the way he is.

[mzmolly]

18. He does speak carefully, even to his family.

Also, he won in 2000. ;)

[bklyncowgirl]

32. My fear is that when he gets into candidate mode he reverts to the Woodman

He sounded very cautious last night and that does not bode well.

I've been reading Gore's book and truly want this great man as my president. In most recent interviews he's been sharp, funny and on top of the world.

This was different and I can't put my finger on it.

[Frank Cannon]

33. If this is what we have to look forward to, I hope he doesn't run.

For his sake. I am sick to fucking death of hearing about "wooden", "robotic" Al Gore--and from Dems, no less. After six years of the profoundly mentally retarded, drug abusing, sociopathic fuckstick we have in office now, I'd vote for the goddam robot from Lost in Space. I think most of America would.

[Matariki]

46. no kidding. we're are own worst enemy usually. n/t

[helderheid]

5. feels SO good to be rec 5

[Matariki]

10. and *i'm* so happy you're here!

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ooga+booga+smooga+wooga&btnG=Google+Search

edited for me dumm speeling.

[GainesT1958]

11. Though I really don't think he's decided yet...

I definitely think he's getting closer...and, for what it's worth, I think he's inching closer to a "yes".

But he correctly points out "...presidential campaigns shouldn't have to take 600 days." And the beauty of it is, should he throw his hat in, his campaign won't. And it will likely still be a winning campaign.

It's hard for me to express just how much I want to see Al run this time--and how much I think this nation, and the world, desperately need him to do so. Not only to correct the sins and downward trends in so many areas over the past seven years, but to point us in a new direction, on a new path. As only he can. And then, to set things up for the Democratic Administration after him--whomever that may be--to continue the trend foward.

As I see it, only Al can do that, and do that in a way that will bring about a new "era of good feeling" in this country.

B-)

[RestoreGore]

13. Not if he has to become one of them

Not if he has to become part of the military industrial complex system he excoriated in his book, which isn't changing anytime soon.

[Matariki]

17. can you explain what you mean?

are you saying the only way he - or anyone - can successfully run is to become part of the military industrial complex?

[helderheid]

20. "ignored" cannot stand Gore running unless she gives consent.

[Matariki]

21. very odd given the poster's name(?)

[RestoreGore]

31. Well, since you asked

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3284718&mesg_id=3289289

[helderheid]

35. Indeed. n/t

[RestoreGore]

52. Where's a no pest strip when you need one? n/t

[helderheid]

53. Hehehe... Ignored, I can't read your posts!

[kiteinthewind]

56. Yes, kineta, we've said the same. Keep in mind, tho, she is the The One And Only Keeper Of Al

Gore's Flame Of Truth! Only RG knows what Al REALLY wants! :eyes:

[helderheid]

58. I believe all thoughts have to be run by. Sad but true.

;)

[kiteinthewind]

59. Don't have a problem with thoughts, only with p*ssing on every Prez Gore thread that comes up.

Get's old.

[helderheid]

61. I was agreeing with you :)

Said person is the only one on my ignore list for exactly this reason. Gore can make up his own mind, BUT his mind is made up not to run because I say so gets old REALLY fast.

:hi:

ETA "All thoughts have to be run by" should have read "All thoughts have to be run by her"

[kiteinthewind]

62. Exactly! I've never seen anyone so determined that they, alone, know Al's heart! LOL!

I am so lukewarm about the other candidates, I just feel he is the 'energy' this party really needs! I sat down and wrote him a 6 page letter last month. Didn't mean it to be so long, just couldn't stop with my thoughts about the shape this country, this world, is in and what a difference he would make in the world. I really think this is his destiny! :hi:

[helderheid]

63. I wrote him Jan 2006 - not 6 pages but I asked him to run... and I believe ... he will!

[DesertRat]

64. I couldn't agree more!

Go President Gore!
:)

[kiteinthewind]

65. We're ready when you are, President Gore! nt

:hi:

[RestoreGore]

29. Putting someone on ignore means IGNORING THEM

Or this is that too complicated for you?

[RestoreGore]

30. No just the opposite

It was even stated in the TIME article The Last Temptation Of Al Gore that that is a very deep concern of Mr. Gore as well... his conscience and soul and making such a decisison based on the past. But heck, why should anyone here try to understand that and have an adult conversation here about it? They only get harrassed by those who are too simple to understand beyond "run al run." Especially those who put you on ignore because they are too scared to respond directly because it would mean having to respond in more than simple two word phrases.

[Matariki]

40. Then I guess I don't understand what you meant by "Not if he has to become one of them"

I didn't understand the context or what it had to do with the post you were responding to. I was trying to take a guess at what you meant but....?

[RestoreGore]

51. Those who espouse to this corrupt process for their own benefit...

because I truly believe that for him to go back to that he would have to sacrifice a piece of his conscience. And also, all of the powers Bush now has will be conferred upon whoever is appointed as the next President ( with our current voting system I do not even believe voting for president in this country is anything more than smoke and mirrors because money and connections trump all which is also what he eludes to in his book.) I don't think Al Gore wants to have to deal with that temptation when he sees the influence he is having and can have from where he is now. Remember, absolute power corrupts absolutely. That is part of my view based on all I have read about this and I do believe it is a matter of conscience to him, and I think that should be respected.

[Name removed]

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[farmboxer]

25. President Gore Is Correct, He Really Did Win In 2000!!!

I think we should call President Gore, President Gore, afterall, he really was elected, something the MSM does not not anyone to do, tell it like is really is! Gore won, but was not allowed to take office, Bush lost and was appointed to office, an idiot!

[Matariki]

27. Indeed. The Once and Future President. ;-)

[Virginia Dare]

37. But we were spared...

Vice President Lieberman, I guess that's some silver lining.

[Roxy66]

47. Oh....that is scary. Lieberman is such a slime!!

[Swamp Rat]

26. Delicious!

mmm!.. President Gore!

[ginnyinWI]

28. Gore/Kerry 2008

I can dream.

[YvonneCa]

42. With you...

...on that dream, wisteria. ;)

[YvonneCa]

60. You, too...

...ginnyinWI. :) Oooooppps! Either the eyes or the brain is going... :7

[Virginia Dare]

36. As long as he doesn't pick Lieberman again...n/t

[Matariki]

41. Gore/Obama is what I see as a winning ticket. n/t

[Roxy66]

48. That would be a great ticket

[mdelaguna2000]

49. Very exciting interview on Countdown.

I love it when he doesn't say no.

[theHandpuppet]

54. President Gore -- the only reason I would become re-energized for '08

C'mon, Al. We need you. I'm a discouraged and disheartened old Dem who has just about given up hope. Give us your vision. Lead this nation back from the valley of darkness.

PLEASE.

[elizfeelinggreat]

57. seconded

Sincerely, PLEASE !

[FogerRox]

55. I like the sound of that.