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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 09:20 AM
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Anybody there?
I'd rather watch with the Biden-buddies.:hi:
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 09:50 AM
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1. I have to watch on the computer
on CNN.com. CNN and MSNBC are playing 9/11 specials. Yesterday they showed hearings all day, but today it gets pushed aside so we can watch the same old clips over and over again!!
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 09:56 AM
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4. Oops, spoke too soon -- not surprised to see you, either. There's a Greatest
thread giving a blow by blow of the hearing -- there are a LOT of very positive Biden comments and observations.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 09:53 AM
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2. Just me, and I'm watching online...Dodd is up now. n/t
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 09:57 AM
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5. This is so much better than yesterday
Dodd is doing well. These guys are pros.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:00 AM
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7. I feel like I "know" him too, after all the debates I've watched! n/t
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 09:55 AM
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3. Biden did great -
you know how I know?
Everyone on the thread in GD said so. Lots of praise - no bashing!
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 09:59 AM
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6. I'm hoping there will be Biden coverage in the sound bites the media will use.
And maybe more people on YouTube will watch since it's the Hearing -- people who wouldn't necessarily look for Biden videos or pay much attention to him otherwise. The media could actually help!
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:03 AM
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8. Who is this asshole?
http://www.madison.com/tct/opinion/235713

The same guy that wrote the article in the Nation that I posted about yesterday.

Lots of positive press for Biden other than that.
Google Biden - news.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:05 AM
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10. Look at the pic they posted in this article
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:20 AM
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20. They don't like Biden either
That's where that article about Biden's Iraq trip showed up. You know they pick photos like that on purpose.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:18 AM
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18. I saw him on Bill Moyers
talking about impeachment. He was pretty cool then, but he definitely isn't a Biden fan!
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:22 AM
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21. We need a plan to shut him up.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 11:16 AM
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34. Throw him some impeachment bones
That will distract him!
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:03 AM
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9. Hagel's doing great -- I've never heard him before. nt
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:07 AM
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11. He has been very outspoken against this war.
and over the weekend he announced that he will not run for re-election for his Senate seat -
so he will definitely bring it today.

Biden is really fond of him.

Hagel once told the bush a-kissers if they didn't want to question this war, they should go sell shoes!
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:12 AM
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13. Isn't he the one who authored an exit proposal with Biden? n/t
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:15 AM
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16. That was Carl Levin
Armed Services committee - you know - the one that looks like Danny DeVito :)
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:18 AM
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17. Kerry! This should be good too!
The best of the best --
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:18 AM
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19. I knew there was an "L" in the name somewhere! I'll have to check out a pic! nt
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:09 AM
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12. Hagel doing the best of all - yes even better than Biden
Go get 'em Chuck - wow!!
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:13 AM
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14. Yeah, I loved the reference to questioning the war is not unpatriotic, also his
nod to Petraeus and Crocker that they were doing their jobs in presenting their reports.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:14 AM
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15. and to get an honest answer - ask a seargent or a Corporal
hahaha
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:23 AM
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22. Where were these questions yesterday???
Yesterday when it aired all day??? Now this hearing gets pre-empted by 9/11 memorials and another bogus Bin Laden tape!!
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:29 AM
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23. Thank goodness for C-Span!
Another OBL tape? No way!

Maybe it's Karl Rove with a beard?
Nice try bushy!
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 11:17 AM
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35. There seems to be a deliberate effort
to distract from these hearings!!!!
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:42 AM
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24. Has Kerry already spoken?
Also, on another thread it mentioned protesters being removed. Missed that, too. How did Joe handle it? I'm confident with much more respect and dignity than Skelton did yesterday...

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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 11:00 AM
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25. Kerry did great - making them squirm
Biden must have spoken to security beforehand.
The incidents were over just as soon as they began.
Another fine example of his leadership.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 11:00 AM
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26. stupid phone call - I missed all of Feingold.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 11:06 AM
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27. Boxer! My hero!
She does not mince words.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 11:10 AM
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28. Take off your rosie glasses
She is laying it on - making them eat their words.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 11:11 AM
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29. My first time seeing her -- she's great! nt
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 11:14 AM
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32. You should have seen her nailing Condi!
Also she's the only senator to question the Ohio election results! We LOVE her in CA. She's the real deal.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 11:13 AM
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30. Wow - she was VERY impressive! nt
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 11:14 AM
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31. I wish Biden would have give Crocker a chance to respond to Boxer.
They should be able to make as much time as they need.
Who puts on these time constraints anyway????
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 11:18 AM
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37. Ha! I was glad I didn't have to listen to him again! "They" -- shouldn't have
scheduled both hearings for today. With an issue this critical, it shouldn't be crammed into some schedule. Wonder whose decision that was...

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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 11:15 AM
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33. I'm glad that Boxer used her time to ask the questions and requested the
responses in writing. That way we don't have to listen to their seriously flawed viewpoints, and can keep hammering home the vast number of valid concerns we have.

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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 11:17 AM
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36. Yeah, he's doing us a favor
How much of this crap can be endure?
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 11:20 AM
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38. True - but I saw Petreaus writting notes while she was talking
Edited on Tue Sep-11-07 11:21 AM by pirhana
at lightening speed - lol.

She definitely made him nervous.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 11:29 AM
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39. Nice touch Joe!!!
What a pro!!!
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 11:31 AM
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41. That was great - he is such a good guy.
Wait until BO is up. I hope people will compare.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 11:36 AM
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44. Is BO a member of the Committee -- or do you mean next hearing?
I'm SO clueless -- I'll keep trying.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 11:37 AM
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45. Never mind -- CNN just mentioned BO will be up in this session. nt
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 11:31 AM
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42. Agreed! And what a genuinely good guy!
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 11:56 AM
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49. He's doing a great job
No showboating, very professional and direct.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 11:31 AM
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40. C-span has a link on its site for "Committee Member Speeches" so we can
just listen sans responses if we so choose.

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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 11:35 AM
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43. Thanks for that info.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 11:52 AM
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46. I thought Obama started out well,
but then I swear I'm hearing verbatim some of the stuff I've heard him say before. And as of yet, all he's doing is stating his opinion -- no questions at all. I'm waiting -- should I hold my breath?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 11:53 AM
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47. He's sinking. It's almost painful to watch. nt
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 11:55 AM
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48. His reference to the bad timing of the hearings was
relevant, but he devolved after that.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 11:56 AM
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50. And his "question" has been asked previously. I'm not a big fan of his, but
I really expected him to do better. He was just stumping.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 11:57 AM
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52. He lost a great opportunity to show what he's made of
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:00 PM
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53. I guarantee that the press
is going to be all about Obama.

Get ready!

And Hillary will have her chance this afternoon.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:07 PM
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55. Sadly I think you're right
The media will make the hearings the Hillary-Obama show!
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 01:03 PM
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62. Ditto. Sigh. nt
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 11:56 AM
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51. You feel about him the same I do -
Edited on Tue Sep-11-07 11:57 AM by pirhana
he surprised me.

He did really well.

I liked it when he asked if there would ever be a time when they would say "enough".
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:06 PM
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54. Check this out - you know how BO questioned the date of these hearings?
Then why is he going to make a major speech about Iraq tomorrow:rofl:

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2007/09/obama_to_outlin.html
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:08 PM
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56. Very good observation
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:12 PM
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57. I'm going to start a thread about it later.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:16 PM
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58. Thanks for the advance warning!
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:21 PM
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59. lol!!
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:24 PM
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60. See me sitting on my hands???
No emoticon for that though.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:58 PM
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61. Excellent summary by the Chairman!
:toast:
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 01:05 PM
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63. Hear Hear! nt
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 01:08 PM
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64. I did it.
I started a thread about Obama in gd-p.

I'm gonna get beat up

:scared: lol
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 01:13 PM
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65. I'm not at all worried about you -- you can handle yourself! nt
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 01:42 PM
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67. Obama supporters don't get it.
They keep saying Obama's speech is a response to these hearings.

I don't know how to put it in a more simple way to make them understand that he
is being a hypocrite.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 02:05 PM
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69. I missed that his plan is going to be unveiled on the 12th -- one of the "no" days...
This makes it even more transparent. It seems obvious (to a Biden supporter, anyway!) that he made that statement today for the impact, then it's back to biz on the campaign trail tomorrow. Not walking his talk.

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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 01:15 PM
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66. Excellent point from C-Span caller
that Petraeus and Crocker can't tell us what's up, Bush needs to level with the American people. We seem to lose sight of that, although Joe (among others) today stated it was the Administration's doing -- not these two guys.

So what do you think? Will Bush level with us? Hmmmm?

(By the way, I think Biden WOULD -- and he IS.)
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 02:00 PM
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68. I heard that too.
I heard some caller give kudos to Biden today too.
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 04:49 PM
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71. Petraeus is a bush puppet, just like the rest of his appointees
As far as bush leveling with people, I guess he is and was when he said years ago, "Stay the Course." Whatever that means?? Nothing has improved in Iraq, Biden was clear about that on Charlie Rose last night.

Don't ya love Biden hitting the circuit? He may get a real bounce, almost afraid to hope.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:18 PM
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70. Hillary just referenced a question posed by Biden this morning...
She realizes his brilliance.

She's doing an outstanding job. She really sounds exhausted.
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 04:53 PM
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72. If Hillary is our new President
Edited on Wed Sep-12-07 04:59 PM by lyonn
I suspect she may pick Biden for Sec. Defense or State.

Edit: Sheesh, just realized this post was from yesterday. Didn't see this Biden group until one of you posted it today. Hope it grows. Got so enthusiastic on that post earlier today that I donated a few dollars to Biden via the DU donate site, ActBlue?
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