Official Jewish spokesman: Chavez not to blame; Chavez gov't liberal, always supports minorities

[Peace Patriot]

Venezuela's president, Hugo Chavez, and Elias Farache, the president of Venezuela’s Israeli Association, on an interview show:

"In this connection Chavez complained to Farache that too often individuals appearing or pretending to be spokespersons for Venezuela’s Jewish community come forward and accuse the government of having perpetrated the attack on the synagogue.

“'Immediately (after the attack) they come out and attack. No one disavows (those who) speak in the name of the Jewish community… This is bad for the climate in the country,” said Chávez to Farache.

"Farache thereupon responded, 'There are spokespersons and there are … those who are "fishing in turbulent waters." This is why I have come to this program.' 'And to the unauthorized spokespersons, we call on them to control (themselves),' he added.

"With regard to the government’s supposed culpability in the attack, Farache denied such considerations, saying, 'We do not accuse the government. It would not be logical for us to be attacked by a government that is liberal, … that has above all always been in favor of minorities.'”

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Chavez also said this, a bit earlier (as preface to the above):

"Chávez made the spontaneous call to the television program 'Dando y Dando' (Give and Give) while the show’s host was speaking to Farache about the recent attack on one of Caracas’s synagogues, in which unidentified individuals vandalized the temple and nearby offices.

"Chávez said that the attack had 'very strange' elements and reminded him of an attack a few years ago against the consulates of Colombia and Spain in Caracas, in which perpetrators tried to give the appearance of being Chávez supporters by leaving pro-Chávez fliers at the scene. Later, though, with the help of security camera recordings, two individuals were identified who had links to the opposition and are now living in the U.S."

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http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/news/4179

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See background and discussion at:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3729382

[EFerrari]

1. This is really helpful, Peace Patriot. What a great catch on your part.

The Bushwacks have been too quiet this time around. I was speculating that now, out of office, they're going to have to find some way to compensate for not having the Noise Machine at their 24/7 beck and call.

[rabs]

2. A vulgar robbery

Caracas newspaper El Universal is reporting tomorrow (Monday) that the break-in was a plain old robbery, nothing political about it. The ringleader was a female police detective and the guard who participated is said to have confessed how it all went down.



http://www.eluniversal.com/2009/02/09/sucgc_art_una-detective-del-ci_1261182.shtml

Two pertinent grafs from the article:

"Un dinero fue el detonante" Según información aportada por fuentes del Cicpc, de manera extraoficial, el hecho se suscitó luego de que uno de los imputados, Edgar Alexander Cordero, funcionario activo de la PM adscrito a la zona 6, y quien también hacía de escolta de uno de los rabinos de la sinagoga, le solicitara el préstamo de un dinero al religioso y éste se lo negó. Al parecer, Cordero planificó el robo, pues consideraba que en las cajas fuertes del templo tenían dinero suficiente.

(Above graf says Edgar Cordero, a military policeman and escort of one of the rabbis, asked the rabbi for a money loan; the rabbi refused, then it appears Cordero planned the robbery because he thought that the safes in the temple contained sufficient money (to spread around).

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Las fuentes indicaron que aún falta por detener a otro grupo actuante, unas 10 personas más, donde figurarían quienes irrumpieron y rayaron las paredes del templo, presuntamente para desviar las investigaciones y darle un matiz político.

(The sources indicated that another group has yet to be arrested (about 10 more persons) who are suspected of entering and spraying the temple's walls, presumably to divert the investigation and give (the attack) a political motif.)

More on the link for readers of Spanish. The AP, Reuters and others will catch up eventually.

[EFerrari]

3. Thanks, rabs. Well, looks like the police force just got a little cleaner. n/t

[Peace Patriot]

5. It's been trumpeted all over the world--Chavez is anti-semitic. The Associated Pukes,

Rotters & co. have done this TWICE, promulgated a false story about the Chavez government being anti-semitic. TWICE Venezuela's top Jewish leaders have contradicted it, totally. But the damage is done. Their statements praising the Chavez government never catch up with this slander. And the Bushwhacks have meanwhile spewed this anti-Chavez venom all over the OAS.

In describing the suspects, yesterday, AP stressed the phrase "federally controlled" investigative police agency, for one of the policemen involved. Why? The asshole Bushwhack ambassador at the OAS called the Chavez government anti-semitic and anti-democratic.

I am not satisfied that these were not coordinated parts of a plan. And I am not satisfied that this incident was a mere robbery. It could be that only one of the 21 suspects was the fascist or CIA operative who instigated the incident. In a crowd of 21, that person recedes into the background. And the public conversation, within Venezuela and around the world--initiated by the Associated Pukes, Rotters, El Universal and other corpo/fascist 'news' monopolies, and echoed by the U.S. bloviators at the OAS--ceases to be about Chavez's excellent record on democracy and other issues, and whether he should be able to run for office again in 2012, and it becomes the Chavez government's anti-semitism, with Chavez painted as incendiary because he criticized Israel (along with hundreds of other world leaders).

I can understand the Chavez government wanting to dampen this down. The political debate has been diverted by this slander, on a massive scale, in venues in which the truth doesn't have a chance. The referendum is next week and Chavez has a good case for lifting term limits. He likely wants that to be the focus in Venezuela, not this "when did you stop beating your wife" slander--an argument he cannot win. If the investigators suspect a set-up, in the synagogue incident, they likely can't prove it in that time-frame. The fascist/CIA connection may be well-hidden.

But even if this incident really was just a robbery--with no agent provocateur embedded in this gang, and no political intent--we need to be aware of what these corpo/fascist 'news' monopolies did with it, and what the Bushwhacks who are still representing the U.S. at the OAS, did with it. They trumpeted it all over the world as Chavez being anti-semitic. And the Reagan-Bush criminals have done this before--to Chavez, and to the Sandanistas in Nicaragua. Jews need to look at this, for how these fascists are using them. And everyone who supports human progress and human rights needs to examine this "divide and conquer" tactic.

AP, Rotters, El Universal, et al, may have been opportunistically using this incident to slander Chavez, or they may be working with fascist operatives to create incidents, then publish their pre-written narratives about them. We need to be alert to these possibilities. None of these corpo/fascist 'news' monopolies can be trusted.

And we need to know if these Bushwhacks at the OAS are representing Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton. Are they trying to sabotage a U.S. detente with Chavez? Or are they doing Obama's or Clinton's bidding? We've got people representing the U.S. at the OAS who are vicious. lying bastards. We know they're doing Exxon Mobil's bidding. Are they doing it with or without a nod from the Clinton State Dept. or the Obama White House?

And, finally, we need to know if it's part of a private war plan, or an on-going U.S. war plan, to regain global corporate predator control of Venezuela's oil.

[EFerrari]

10. Has anyone seen Hillary Clinton? It's like she's disappeared or something.

Since both Obama and Clinton have already repeated Bush's tripe about Chavez, I'm hoping they don't get around to Latin America for a while. If the leftover Bushies at OAS continue with their usual behavior, at least there will be very little behind it.

I'm not sanguine about the present administration's LA positions, not at all.

[iconicgnom]

27. I agree, this isn't the time to be sanguine.

However, being someone who supported the election of Obama (tho' I'm a Canadian, I added my yahooos) I do think this is time for certain key elements of the new Obama admin to "disappear", as it were, and do some background work.

For me as a Canadian it's a situation that they, the US voters, rolled the dice, and for once in my lifetime rolled them right. So I want to give the Obama admin a LOT of rope, and substantial time, because for once in my life I'm confident in a US govt.

[Judi Lynn]

8. This information adds a layer of complexity, doesn't it?

It's even conceivable that the plan was in place BEFORE the guard/"escort" asked for the loan, knowing he would probably have been denied, which would have served as a good cover story, as in "motivation" for a break-in, if they were caught in their crime of arranging a scenario to cement their earlier claims Chavez, in his condemnation of the Israeli government's actions against Palestinians, is anti-Semitic, and therefore the enemy.

These false flag operations have been around forever, as devices used by belligerent organizations to set up others for attack, while trying to summons public support for their own side through illusion.

It's good to know that the President of the Israeli Association in Peace Patriot's post has already seen through this stunt as not initiated by the Venezuelan government which would have NOTHING to gain from it.

Learning from your article this was an "inside job," makes it far more interesting. I see El Universal, a virulent anti-Chavez newspaper, did admit the political aspects WERE deliberate, and were intentional in order to make a political smear. That must have KILLED them putting that in print. Good!

Thanks for your information. Welcome to D.U. :hi:

[rabs]

14. Minister: It was an inside job

Newspaper El Nacional of Caracas has chimed in with statements by Interior Minister Tarek El Aissami. At a news conference this morning, he said the break-in had been an inside job. The alarm systems were neutralized when the electricity was cut from inside the temple, which allowed the group to enter without being dectected.

El Aissami said the claims by the opposition trying to implicate the Chavez government had crumbled because of the results of the investigation, which was carried out by a special unit of investigations police. Interesting that El Nacional in its article did not go so far as El Universal in saying the motive had been simple robbery.

http://el-nacional.com/www/site/p_contenido.php?q=nodo/67654/Política/Ratificada-complicidad-interna-de-vigilante-de-la-sinagoga-en-hechos-vandálicos.

Judi, thanks for the welcome. Fyi replied to you regarding M. Lamoretti over on Mika's thread about emailing from Cuba. :hi:

[Judi Lynn]

15. Astonishing! I raced over there, found your post, feverishly wrote one out in response,

logged off, was off on my errand, and remembered I didn't answer this one in my rush to see your other post.

This is a WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL surprise. Absolutely caught so completely by surprise. It's so very, very good to hear your cyber voice.

I have quoted you and thought of your remarks over those 8 years since we all corresponded so many, MANY times, as well as Neil's, and some from dejadacuentros (Guajira) and Billy Burnett, and unbelievably bright Say_What. What a spectacular group of people. I forgot: Jean Sawyer (Freecancat). I most surely have quoted some of the great posts she made here before she left.

Wondered where you landed, how you and the others are doing.

Thanks so much for enlightening me on who you are. If it hadn't been for your communications, those of the others who knew what they were talking about, too, I never would have realized how profoundly uninformed I had been up until the moment I started reading at CNN, and started my own journey to educate myself. I've got books all over the house now which I haven't had the time to read yet, but I'm not EVER going to stop now that I've had my eyes opened, and you guys were my teachers. I'm SO glad to find out who rabs is!

I've got to leave again, won't be back 'til later, but had to return to answer this post before I could walk away.

There are some astonishing posters here whom you would love in a heartbeat, and vice versa. Great group of very bright people, as you probably have noticed.

Thanks for the El Nacional article. Will study it later tonight.

Words are failing me. This is spectacular news knowing you've posted here!

[rabs]

21. My face is all red

Wow, I had seen newbies being welcomed to DU but never quite like you and Peace Patriot did. I am humbled and totally delighted to be in touch with you again.

I read DU all during the long night of the Bushista era and followed how you progressed in your expertise of Latin America. Very impressive and I join others in saying that you have become one of the top DU experts in the region now. What makes your posts even more powerful are the photos you include. It puts faces to the culprits, adding a new dimension.

Peace Patriot's posts also have been required reading for me. Her (his?) lighting-fast analyzes of complex issues across Latam are quite impressive.

A little later will post on the Astorga matter (Today Correa accused him of being a thief. Does not happen often to a diplomat.

Also there are new details about the break-in at the Jewish temple in Caracas.

There is also an angle on the FARC killing of the natives that was not mentioned.

Once again Judi, thanks for the warm welcome and stay safe. Looks like there is wicked weather in parts of the Midwest. Here it is snowing.

[Judi Lynn]

26. It has been an experience reading Peace Patriot's writing, and a real rush sometimes

when what she already has written becomes proven beyond any doubt whatsoever well afterward. I've never seen a mind work like that, so quickly, as well.

Correa has had his hands full from his first day. He's got enemies among the lunatic hog fringe, but that comes with the territory, doesn't it?

I've tried to remember for years what country it was you discussed before which had so many governments, so quickly. I've thought about it so many times since then, but the fact I knew NOTHING about South America back then has to be the reason I couldn't keep it all straight. I know it was Uruguay, Paraguay, or Ecuador.

There's so MUCH going on in Latin America now. Things are coming together so wonderfully, so far.

It would be so worthwhile getting your "take" on ALL these situations.

I didn't even know Brazil had its own kind of reign of terror, too. As you probably noticed long ago, Americans have had almost a complete news blackout on the major, vital news concerning what has been happening in Latin America, from the first. It seems hard to believe, especially considering the fact U.S. citizens were being required to bankroll all the genocidal programs, and the torture instruction and training of militaries and police forces throughout the area.

I'm not using my regular computer at the moment or I would love to find a painting I located which reminded me instantly of a conversation you had wih Maria Lamoretti regarding the torture/murder victims bodies as they appeared in rivers during that time.
It's a man standing on a bridge across the Mapoche River in Santiago looking down at it. I've saved it in files, as it's so expressive.

Just did a quick google, looking for that painting again, and found this article on the Leteliers:

An Exiled Son of Santiago
Tom Hayden
The Nation, 4 April 2005

"Everywhere, begin the remembering."
(from a mural by Francisco Letelier, Venice, California)

~snip~
While his father was missing, Francisco remembers watching Chilean bodies floating in Santiago's central river and experiencing the impact of the military takeover in his school. Eventually, without telling his mother, he stopped attending classes. "For her, it was 'well, at least the kids are still going to school.' That thought still gave her some peace of mind. So I would stay home when she was out or just go over to my grandmother's. It was a little easier for us than it was for our mother because we were still discovering the world for ourselves at this point. Our mother's world, though, had been completely destroyed." After one year of this surreal existence, vigorous Venezuelan diplomacy resulted in the sudden release of Letelier from Dawson Island on the condition that he immediately leave Chile. The family once again began resettling in Caracas, but then Orlando Letelier decided to head for Washington, at the proposal of an American writer, Saul Landau. In 1975 Letelier took a position with the Institute for Policy Studies (IPS), where Landau worked at the time, and plunged into writing, speaking and lobbying the US Congress and European governments against the Pinochet regime. He soon became the leading voice of the Chilean resistance. According to John Dinges, who has been following the case for thirty years, Orlando "was on the short list of possible presidents in a post-dictatorial Chile."

http://www.tni.org/detail_page.phtml?page=letelier-docs_exiledson

How about that, Letelier's son knew Saul Landau. We used to quote his writing regularly in earlier days. What a great authority.

I will locate that painting to post. I had really hoped you'd see it someday because I knew you'd know what it concerned. I posted a photo, once, at CNN showing people standing on the sidewalk, walking along it, looking down into the water at a body of a young man, probably 20's as it simply floated by them. I thought at the time, that anyone who had experienced that situation would feel so completely different from the moment of impact he/she'd never be the same again. It would totally reframe your view of life, and of people instantly, to see life had been taken so cheaply, so casually, to see it in such a way you would never be the same.

Looking forward to what you have found out about that Colombian killing. I have no idea where the "investigation" will lead, considering who's conducting it, but I certainly trust your ability to recognize the truth of the matter, even when they refuse to admit it directly.

Will check back later. It's absolutely wonderful learning you've posted here. It's a BIG big deal.

[Judi Lynn]

28. Something I forgot to mention. I don't ever recall any time you mentioned snow in your neighborhood!

Are you in N.M. more often now? I could see how it would look so much more appealing there than what you and N.A. and B.B. went through several years ago.

Lotsa rain here, high temperatures, wind. We normally can look for ice storms. Hope the warming can be reversed: none of us have such empty lives that dangerous weather provides us a little entertainment! The good old 4 traditional, predictable seasons were just fine.

[Judi Lynn]

29. Disregard the post before this one: I think I can guess where you are!

Cold Weather Brings Snow To Southern New Mexico
Jenn Dombrowski-KFOX Las Cruces Bureau Reporter

Tuesday, February 10, 2009 – updated: 5:59 pm MST February 10, 2009

DONA ANA COUNTY, N.M. -- The winter weather also struck southern New Mexico.

Flurries seen Tuesday morning were long gone by noon, but the winds had created quite a challenge for those working outside.

Up in the Organ Mountains the cold weather seemed to get even colder, but the Aguirre springs campground host said it was just another day on the job.

“I think I’d rather be inside,” said host Richard Anderson.

Flurries and snow didn't keep Anderson from getting out of his truck and checking the campground.

“We had a lot of hikers but the weather it hit right after the weekend so it did bother them too much. Right now there's nobody here. It's just cold up here and windy,” Anderson said.

More:
http://www.kfoxtv.com/news/18685697/detail.html#-

Take care up there!

[Peace Patriot]

16. Welcome to DU, rabs! Judi has told me about you. DOUBLE WELCOME!

You are needed here. There's a lot of disinformation floating around among DU forums on Venezuela, Chavez and the Latin American left. We need more people who know what they're talking about, and, as DU is an open forum--literally anyone may post--we get some people with an anti-leftist, anti-democratic agenda. I hope you have time to do more posting here, to help educate people who want to know what's really happening in Latin America, and to counter the lies and psyops.

Did you happen to catch Donald Rumsfeld's op-ed in the Washtington Post 12/1/07, entitled "The Smart Way to Defeat Tyrants Like Chavez"? Among other things, he urges the corpo/fascists IN THE U.S. GOVERNMENT to get busy on the internets and get some psyops going, cuz him and his private "office of special plans" are losing the propaganda war. (He didn't put it quite like that.) It's a worthwhile read to find out some of the ways that Exxon Mobil is plotting to regain control of Venezuela's oil (if you read between the lines a bit).

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/30/AR2007113001800.html

Again, welcome! To the barricades!

[rabs]

22. Peace Patriot: Many thanks for the welcome

The other day Judi mentioned someone from Argentina with whom we used to communicate. So I decided to jump in because the Latam forum has been one of my favorites on DU. Yes, I have seen deliberate disinformation and innocent misinformation. I can glance at some of the OPs and know what their agenda will be.

Yes, I had seen that Rumsfeld article when you previously posted it on DU. It was enough to gag me. The poor man appears to be stuck in the Cold War era. He is now irrelevant and hopefully he will be tried as a war criminal someday. The downside to this is that he is living in the northern part of our state. Ugh.

Don't know if Judi told you that I spent a big chunk of my life in Latam, during the heyday of the dictatorships, the dirty wars, the Tupamaros, and the king of them all, eight years in Pinochet's Chile.

Will try to post information that is objective from the media outlets in Latam. I have noted your deep distrust of the "corpo-media, the AP, "Rotters," NYT and others.

What I do is when an event catches my attention is go to the main newspapers in whatever country, because they are usually at least one cycle ahead of the news agencies. What reporters normally do is go to work in the morning, lay out the local newspapers on their desk and plagiarize whatever news they want to dispatch to New York, London or wherever. Of the news agencies, prefer Efe (Spain), ANSA (Italy), DPA (German) and AFP (France). These agencies do not have the same ax to grind as some of the norteamericano reporters have.

Do not know if your are proficient in Spanish and Portuguese, but here are some good sources:

Argentina: Clarin
Bolivia: La Prensa
Brazil: O Estado de Sao Paulo and Jornal do Brasil.
Chile: La Nacion and La Tercera
Colombia: Not much there what with El Tiempo being Uribista. Revista Semana sometimes had good articles.
Ecuador: El Comercio and El Universo (in Guayaquui).
Venezuela: Opposition El Universal sometimes has unexpected stories. (Like today, there are new details on the Jewish temple break-in. Have noted that El Universal usually beats El Nacional.
Paraguay: ABC
Peru: El Comercio, but being garciaista, not much there normally.
Uruguay: La Prensa


TV: We watch Ch. 13 out of Santiago online when volcanos or earthquakes hit Chile.

Oof, did not mean for this to turn out so long. Once again, thanks for the welcome.

NO PASARAN

[Mika]

4. Then you're just going to "love" the Miami Herald op-ed today.

Campaign of hatred grows in Venezuela
OUR OPINION: Anti-Semitism thrives under President Chávez's government
http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/story/894846.html

Is it likely that a contemporary state in Latin America would dare to adopt an official policy of anti-Semitism? We would like to believe that the answer is No. Not in our part of the world. Not in view of the universal disavowal of racism among nations of the region. But take a look at what is happening in Venezuela, and suddenly it doesn't seem unlikely at all.

Embracing Iran

The reprehensible attack on a synagogue in Caracas on Jan. 31 has spread widespread fear within the Jewish community in Venezuela and sent shivers across the hemisphere. The brazen and well-planned assault represents an escalation in a menacing drumbeat of events that began years ago under President Hugo Chávez and includes the welcoming embrace of Iran, Israel's sworn enemy; the recent break in relations with Israel; and the growing volume of anti-Semitic propaganda tolerated, when not actually sponsored, by Mr. Chávez's government

This was no random act of vandalism. Two security guards were overpowered by about 15 people who ransacked the synagogue's sanctuary and offices, shattering religious objects and leaving graffiti such as, ''Jews, get out.'' Such actions will multiply unless the government takes an unequivocal stand against anti-Semitism and stops spewing anti-Jewish and anti-Israel hatred in the government-controlled media.

Mr. Chávez issued a pro-forma condemnation, but he would be more believable if he had not led the way in attacking Israel for the recent conflict in Gaza, and if his own government were not inciting anti-Jewish violence. Mr. Chávez himself compared Israel's actions in Gaza to the Holocaust. At the same time, a well-orchestrated campaign has been under way on TV, radio, print and Internet media owned by the government that openly questions Israel's right to exist, according to the Simon Wiesenthal Center.

It doesn't help Mr. Chávez's credibility when a pro-government group of journalists urges the public to boycott businesses owned by Jews. Rabbi Pynchas Brener of Venezuela is pessimistic, telling a Jerusalem newspaper that he fears for the future of the Jewish community there, which numbers about 15,000.

No objections?

Perhaps the most dispiriting aspect of all this is the silence of Mr. Chávez's equals across the region. No government or head of state in Latin America, even in countries with larger Jewish populations, has come forward to condemn the events in Venezuela. This failure will only embolden the haters and inciters of violence. Does the silence imply consent, or just indifference? Surely the other leaders of Latin America can see that what is happening in Venezuela is an official policy of anti-Semitism in all but name and declared intent.

The exiles in Miami gulp this kool aid as though its as vital as air.

Aside from their rabid on-air rantings about how Obama and Castro are one and the same, this is currently a big topic on Spanish radio and TV to rile up the base in Miami - which, made obvious while listening to the exile call-ins to the various shows, creates a little cognitive dissonance due to an apparent anti semitic streak that runs through the hard line exilio diaspora.

[EFerrari]

7. Friday it was some NY paper - The Weekly, iirc.

It looks like they're using this meme and the "behind in payments to oil companies" story.

[Judi Lynn]

9. Once they commit themselves to destabilizing a figure through slander, they drag out

every piece, real or hallucinated they have ever heard about someone, and add it to the pile of crap they reiterate in every piece, until their articles eventually start looking like the last verse of that Christmas Carol, "The Twelve Days of Christmas!"

I'm surprised they haven't referred to the RCTV closing, or nationalization recently!

It's almost funny, isn't it?

[EFerrari]

11. The way you describe it is funny and true!

LOL! "Chavez, fiery radical FREIND OF FIDEL, who has shuttered the press, nationalized your grandmother and tagged synagogues, has stolen an oil rig to give to his associates IN IRAN before he becomes PRESIDENT FOR LIFE."

It's like that poetry game that you play with magnets on the refrigerator. :)

[Judi Lynn]

12. You've got it DOWN! Congrats! You could probably get Simon Romero's job!

Lotsa travel, could hang out with the oligarchy in Caracas, and Miami!

Yes, you've got the skills to beat them at their own game. You also caught that recent stolen oil rig smear from last week.

They will eat their hearts out.

[Peace Patriot]

17. I didn't catch the oil rig thing. What was that? nt

[EFerrari]

18. Last week one of our friends posted a story that claimed Chavez

stole an oil rig. In reality, Venezuela took over operations while they renegotiated a contract with an oil company. The news of the renegotiation was public BEFORE this piece was written:

http://www.forbes.com/2009/01/30/hugo-chavez-venezuela-oil-business-energy-0130_oil_rig.html?feed=rss_news

[Judi Lynn]

6. The communication between Elias Farache and Hugo Chavez was excellent.

It certainly clears up a ton of obfuscation, and downright lies piled up around this event. Farache's words taken directly from the program you linked tell me all I need to know. Too bad the corporate media won't take the time to acknowledge what the leader of the Venezuelan Israeli Association has said publicly about the matter, and about Chavez.

As for the damage done to the synagogue, it will be important to hear what the government finally reveals after a thorough investigation. I hope they don't stop until they get the WHOLE truth.

The Miami Herald article entered by Mika really smells, so typical of the quality of all their anti-leftist writing. The Florida-Venezuelan 2nd home/expat population bonded firmly with the ultra-right reactionary element of the Cuban "exiles" from the first. They are fast friends and cohorts.

I noticed the editorial was unattributed, and started reading the comments at the bottom of the article, some of which were OUTSTANDING! Someone called them out on this piece of crap immediately after they published it, and Aleksander Boyd, that piece of filth poisonous, over-stimulated opposition propagandist who publishes from London now apparently is a reader and poster there. I'm sure he contributes his two cents in the form of editorials, as well. Someone called HIM out in a comment, which was delightful to witness. (Shows a LOT of people are starting to catch on to these political criminals.)

How wonderful was it seeing a comment from EFerrari! So well done.

The OAS clown who slandered Chavez publicly, Lewis Amselem, was assigned by _Bush as the Foreign Policy Advisor at SOUTHCOM in Miami. Here's a short profile: Deputy Chief of Mission
W. Lewis Amselem, Deputy Chief of Mission

http://www.usoas.usmission.gov.nyud.net:8090/uploads/WI/lo/WIlo5bgtoZcCi9qCxhwurQ/amselem.jpg

W. Lewis Amselem

Lewis Amselem assumed the duties of Deputy Chief of Mission to the U.S. Permanent Mission to the Organization of American States in July 2008.

Prior to his designation as Deputy Chief of Mission, Mr. Amselem served ad Foreign Policy Advisor at the United States Southern Command, Miami, Florida, since August 2006. In that capacity, he provided assistance and expert advice to the Commander on issues involving SOUTHCOM’s mission as it relates to the formulation and execution of foreign policy.

http://www.usoas.usmission.gov/dcm.html

[EFerrari]

13. Does anyone have a link to this hack's remarks? ETA: Found it. n/t

[IndianaGreen]

19. Class trumps everything, even religion!

Rich Jews have exploited poor Jews since the days of Temple worship in Jerusalem. Abe Foxman's diatribes against Chavez are motivated by whatever investments he has in Latin America and not so much out of a deep concern for the Jews of Venezuela, particularly the working class Jews. As to the bonding between Miami Cubans and their Venezuelan counterparts, it shouldn't come as a surprise. Class trumps everything!

Did you find it interesting that the robbers were convinced there was a safe full of money inside the synagogue? What moron would think such an idiotic thing as Jews stashing cash inside their synagogues? We barely raise enough funds to keep our building well maintained.

[EFerrari]

20. Agreed. If you look at the individuals among the coup plotters

they were all over the map culturally BUT not financially.

[rabs]

23. Looks like the case has been completely resolved

Caracas newspaper today reports more details. Cordero had been the escort of Rabbi Isaac Cohen. Cordero asked Cohen for a loan. Cohen refused so the robbery was concocted. Cordero believed there were 200,000 bolivares about $100,000 U.S) in the synagogue's safes.

That would explain why the gang stayed in the temple for five hours, they could not break open the safe or safes. They could hardly use explosives. Police are looking for four more suspects (civilians). Police are purging the cops involved.

Jewish leader Elias Farache thanked police for the rapid and efficient investigation and issued a call that accusations that the Chavez government had been responsible should cease.


http://www.eluniversal.com/2009/02/10/sucgc_art_ataque-a-sinagoga-de_1262378.shtml

[Judi Lynn]

24. It had to be painful for El Universal to have to publish this! Ah, ha ha ha ha ha.

Such a stupid crime, but far more idiotic was the stampede by democracy haters to get in their attacks on Hugo Chavez, using this situation as a spring board to launch a whole new round of dirty insults and slurs.

You see it happening again and again by these same a-holes. They don't have the dignity to feel any degree of shame. That's o.k. It's a grim treat seeing them go down in flames time after time.

Elias Farache was very decent and brave taking his stand when many around him were rejoicing, reveling in the opportunity they took to launch tirades against the elected President of Venezuela.

So happy to see this article. It's worth its internet weight in gold. Thanks, rabs, for providing it.

[rabs]

25. It looked strange from the beginning

I lived and worked in Caracas for two years in the early '80s. Venezuelans are a diverse people, there are many Spaniards, Portuguese, expats from the old regimes in other Latam countries, plus of course native Venezuelans who run the gamut from the rich, elite whites to the poor black and mestizos along the coast and in the slums above Caracas.

In those two years I never ran across anyone spouting any racial or religious hatred, so I was puzzled about the break-in from the beginning. Fyi Venezuelan police are very good, and I am sure Chavez told them in no uncertain terms to find those responsible immediately. We now see the results; it was a vulgar robbery.

But you are right, the damage to the Chavez government was done and it will stick in the minds of those who WANT to believe it. It is like a correction in a newspaper, hardly anyone ever sees it.

Btw, responded to your and Peace Patriot's welcomes upthread.

[Judi Lynn]

30. Kick!

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