U.S. blasts ousted Honduran for "foolish" return

[Downwinder]

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsMaps/idUSTRE58R4FN20090928

[EFerrari]

1. What a crock.

[rabs]

2. Was looking at the same report

in the Jornal do Brasil as you posted this Reuters article.

Fyi Brazilian Defense Minister Jobin dismissed any possibility of sending Brazilian troops to Honduras to protect/rescue Brazilian diplomatic staffers and Zelaya and his followers.

Jobim said it was not a military matter, but a diplomatic issue.

[Downwinder]

3. I can't buy the "embedded bushwhacker" theory any more.

nor do I think the left hand does not know what the right hand is doing.

I think they know exactly what they are doing.

[EFerrari]

4. I do, too. I was looking at the distribution of Latino voters last night.

Someone has made a calculation, imho.

[rabs]

6. If they know exactly what they are doing ..

... they sure are contradicting themselves.

Hillary couple of months ago said it would be "reckless" for Zelaya to return.

Last week Hillary said Zelaya's return was an "opportune" moment to resolve the impasse.

Today Hillary's spokesman at the OAS said Zelaya's return had been "irresponsible and foolish."

So they are back to square one.

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Meanwhile in Tegucigalpa today, resistance blocks police truck:


Reuters photo

[EFerrari]

7. Happy Hispanic Heritage Month!

:grr:

[EFerrari]

5. The golpistas are torturing journalists openly.

This report will encourage their impunity.

[struggle4progress]

8. OAS' US alternate rep: Zelaya's return to Honduras is 'irresponsible and idiotic'

The return of Honduras' President Manuel Zelaya to his country was "irresponsible and idiotic," said the alternate representative for the United States to the Organization of American States, Lewis Amselem ...

A spokesman for the State Department, Philip Crowley, did not respond directly when asked about the declarations made by the alternate representative.

"Zelaya is there. That is our position. He is there, and in that sense there is a chance for dialogue," he said.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said last week that she had hope that Zelaya's return would be "an occasion" for finding a peaceful way out of the crisis ...

http://www.buenosairesherald.com/BreakingNews/View/13144

[BolivarianHero]

9. My solution for Micheletti and his cronies...

It involves a Venezuelan prison and big, burly Latino men with phallus-shaped inanimate objects, no lubricant, and world-class waterboarding facilities.

[Braulio]

13. That's so typical of you

I understand that's what the Venezuelans are doing to opposition figures, arresting them and putting them in jail with common criminals. While you're at it, you may want to formalize what old Duvalier, the Haitian dictator, used: the ton-ton macoutes. These were "unofficial" bands of thugs who roamed the cities beating and/or killing those who opposed the government.

The problem with humanity is our tendency to be savages. And it seems both the left and the right have the problem, don't you think?

[BolivarianHero]

14. So I like seeing fascists suffer...

I've never advocated that democratically-elected right-wing politicians be dealt with in this matter, because that would be nonsense (unless you get a situation similar to what had occurred in V for Vendetta, and not even Bush was close to being that bad).

A military coup against a democratic government* is high politics' equivalent to a hate crime, however, and just as a hate crime should be dealt with more harshly than an ordinary murder because of the terror that it instills within the community that has been victimized, so too should the architects of a far-right coup be brought to justice in such a way that wannabe juntas are going to be far too scared to pull any of their shit. The people of Honduras have suffered immensely because of this coup, and it is only right that their suffering be reflected back on Micheletti.

* = The obvious is exception is the coup that took place against Portugal's fascist government, popularly known as the Carnation Revolution. Salazar and his goons never achieved power democratically and the extent to which they were out of step with the will of the Portuguese people was so blatant and the coup's end goal of democratic restoration was so obvious that there was no logical grounds upon which one could have opposed the coup. I have some sympathy for Chavez's attempted coup in the wake of the Caracazo, but the case justifying it is nowhere near as strong.

[rabs]

10. State Department issues statement at odds with the remarks made today by U.S. rep to OAS

Once again, appears Hillary and cohorts don't know if they are coming or going re-Honduras.

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Statement on Honduras


Ian Kelly
Department Spokesman
Washington, DC

September 28, 2009

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The United States views with grave concern the decree issued by the de facto regime in Honduras suspending fundamental civil and political rights. In response to strong popular opposition, the regime has indicated that it is considering rescinding the decree. We call on the de facto regime to do so immediately.

The freedoms inherent in the suspended rights are inalienable and cannot be limited or restricted without seriously damaging the democratic aspirations of the Honduran people.

At this important moment in Honduran history, we urge all political leaders to commit themselves to a process of dialogue that will produce an enduring and peaceful resolution of the current crisis.

We also urge the de facto regime and President Zelaya to make use of the good will and solidarity extended by President Arias of Costa Rica, the Organization of American States, and other members of the international community to help facilitate, within the framework of the San Jose talks, such a resolution.

In this regard, we remind the de facto regime of its obligations under the Vienna Conventions to respect diplomatic premises and personnel, and those under their protection. Abiding by these obligations is a necessary component of the dialogue between and among nations, and builds the practices of engagement, tolerance, and understanding necessary for the peaceful resolution of disputes.

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2009/sept/129704.htm

[rabs]

11. Good roundup of today's happenings from Daily Kos

Honduras In State Of Siege While US Blathers That Zelaya's "Foolish"
by davidseth
Share this on Twitter - Honduras In State Of Siege While US Blathers That Zelaya's "Foolish" Mon Sep 28, 2009 at 04:08:22 PM PDT
Lest anyone think that the US had suddenly reversed centuries of supporting and/or creating rightwing, military coups all across Latin America and was going to stand firm in support of restoring democracy in Honduras, today the US sent unmistakable signs that it wasn't changing anything. It was sticking with historical tradition. The US today lashed out at Manual Zelaya for returning to the country of which he is the legitimate president.

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In an effort to appear evenhanded Washington's mouthpiece at the OAS, of course, denounced the golpista's refusal to let an OAS mission enter the country and the golpistas' harassment of the Brazilian embassy, where President Zelaya has found refuge, and the golpistas' declaration of a state of siege.

(Good read)

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/9/28/787391/-Honduras-In-State-Of-Siege-While-US-Blathers-That-Zelayas-Foolish

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12. Two reporters from Guatemala were stomped by security forces

at the Globo offices today:

Guatemala condemns attacks on journalists in Honduras

The Guatemalan government on Monday condemned attacks on Guatemalan journalists by Honduran police and the interim Honduran government's closure of a radio station and a TV channel, local media reported.

Rafael Espada, vice president of Guatemala, said his country would present a protest to the United Nations and the Organization of American States.

Two Guatemalan journalists were pushed to the ground and stamped on by security forces during an early hours raid on Radio Globo in Honduras, Espada said.

The two journalists are currently in Guatemala's embassy in Honduras and will return home soon.


http://english.people.com.cn/90001/90777/90851/6772642.html