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ChangoLoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 10:54 AM
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Uruguayan cooperative reopens factory thanks to Venezuelan funds
A cooperative comprising 40 Uruguayan workers took possession of a leather factory which had been closed for 12 years and which will be reopened thanks to a USD 800,000 loan granted by the Venezuelan government.

The Uruguayan workers, excited about the signing of documents and with the presence of a group of diplomats, municipal authorities and university students, said on Wednesday that "Venezuela granted a USD 240,000 loan (about 30 percent of the funds offered) on a first stage."

Venezuela is providing funds in exchange for training of Venezuelan workers, said Ramón Martínez, a member of the cooperative. He stressed that they will always thank the Venezuelan government and people for their solidarity.

Link
http://english.eluniversal.com/2010/01/13/en_eco_art_uruguayan-cooperativ_13A3284611.shtml
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 11:00 AM
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1. Maybe next an LED assembly.
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ChangoLoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 11:07 AM
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2. :)
You really love that idea... let's ask the Chinese to give better salaries to their workers.

But before the LED, we should build new power plants (or at least some solar electricity program for the rural areas) and assist the existing productive cluster around oil and mineral extracting industries.
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 11:30 AM
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3. With a 979M head of water pressure you ought to be able to drive a turbine
with a 1" feed. It must also be a distribution problem.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 05:33 PM
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4. Ah, a positive story about Venezuela! I'm impressed, Changaloa! But...
...you (and El Universal) have about a hundred stories to go to join the "fair and balanced" club. The Chavez government has many projects like this in other countries and within Venezuela--loans and grants to worker co-ops and small businesses, loans, grants and training to new farmers--as well as easy term loans to help other countries out of ruinous World Bank/IMF debt, cheap oil or barter trades where it is needed, formation of the Bank of the South (to keep development financing local and empower Latin American countries vs "first world" banksters), formation of the ALBA trade group, and much more--including Venezuela meeting ALL of its Millennium (poverty reduction) goals, and spectacular gains in literacy and education, as well as in sustained economic growth through 2008--which have received no or scant coverage in the corporate media. You might have trouble finding these stories. You might have to dig for them. The unfairness to the Chavez government has been egregious. It will take a lot of compensating work to right this wrong. I applaud your first effort. Keep it up!

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social_critic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 05:57 PM
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5. Devaluation of the Bolivar will help
I'm sure the news would be more positive if Chavez didn't spend most of his time using a fairly hateful and insulting message towards people he disagrees with. And the way things are going for Venezuela, I don't think Venezuelans are going to support give aways to other nations. Venezuela isn't exactly rich.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 08:29 PM
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6. Devaluation of the bolivar was voluntary, and long needed and expected.
It indicates that the Venezuelan government's economics and finance people are confident in Venezuela's ability to quickly recover from the Bushwhack Financial 9/11 (which hit everybody), and their ability to control inflation, which resulted from sizzling (and worker-friendly) economic growth of over 10% during the previous five years (2003-2008). Their confidence is probably based on that growth, on their initial $43 billion in international cash reserves, going into the recession, on their conservative budgeting (their 2010 budget was based on $40/barrel for oil; it is already higher), and on the Chavez government's spectacular successes in social programs, for instance, a 40% increase in high school and higher education enrollment, and cutting poverty in half--which bode well for Venezuela's future.

The Venezuelan people have supported Chavez and Chavez government policies--including the "raise all boats" policy of helping smaller countries--for ten years, with increasing margins of the vote, in transparent and internationally certified elections. They have had plenty of time to vet Chavez as a leader, and to understand and influence Chavez policies. An economic squeeze--which they have not experienced, as yet--might make them sour on aid programs to other countries but that has yet to be demonstrated. Venezuela has low levels of debt, high cash reserves and good credit, and relatively low unemployment, and the Chavez government has promised continued full funding of social programs and some economic growth (0.5%) in 2010.

The Chavistas are likely to lose some seats in the National Assembly in the upcoming election for two reasons, 1) The rightwing has abandoned its stupid policy of boycotting elections and is making an effort (their base support is about 30%); and 2) Inflation (too high), drought (causing hydroelectric power outages), some other problems like street crime (Venezuela is a gun-loving society with a high murder rate), and maybe the cumulative effect of non-stop corpo-fascist anti-Chavez propaganda, and U.S. hostility and the dramatic U.S. military buildup in the region (scare tactics aimed at Venezuelan voters?).

The left has been on quite a roll for ten years now throughout the region--with leftist governments elected in Venezuela, Brazil, Argentina, Bolivia, Ecuador, Uruguay, Paraguay (!) and Chile, in South America, and Nicaragua, Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras in Central America. The gains in improvement of the lives of ordinary people have been great--especially in South America, with its longer running leftist democracy movement--and there have been some new and promising phenomena, as to the prospects for long term prosperity in the region and the continuing success of democratic institutions--that is, the banding together of Latin American countries in trade groups like the Venezuela-led ALBA (Central America/Caribbean), and the All-South America UNASUR, prototype for a South American "common market,' creation of the Bank of the South (led by Venezuela), and a new sense of political/economic cooperation forged by the many new leftist leaders. Brazil's Lula da Silva and Venezuela's Chavez, for instance, are good friends, meet monthly, and share many goals (including their "raise all boats" philosophy).

These developments have motivated the U.S. to try various tactics to destroy democracy, once again, in Latin America, and to try to "divide and conquer" between countries, to break up these alliances, and within countries, to exacerbate divisions. It remains a bully force under Obama, as demonstrated by the SEVEN new U.S. military bases in Colombia (adjacent to Venezuela), and events in Honduras (U.S. supported rightwing military coup--big loss to democracy and to the ALBA group), and other such policies. The leftist democracy movement is quite strong, and will probably survive, but there may be more difficulties ahead.

Clearly the U.S. won one for corpo-fascism by dirty means in Honduras--where leftists are now being murdered by rightwing death squads--and rightwing forces in Argentina and Chile are on the rise, no doubt helped by CIA and other U.S. activities. The leftist democracy movement may take some hits in the coming year--Chile in particular may be lost to the rightwing. Chile's leftist president Michele Batchelet, who is termed out, was vital to fending off a U.S./Bushwhack coup attempt in Bolivia in Sept 2008, and that kind of devotion to the sovereignty of Latin American countries will not be forthcoming from a rightwing president of Chile. Batchelet has an 80% approval rating! And I frankly don't know what's gone wrong in Chile, that the left is predicted to lose the coming presidential election. I have to wonder, too, if the more developed countries like Chile aren't being invaded by Diebold & brethren. That's something I intend to look into. I know Brazil has been. (Venezuela has an "open source" electronic system--not controlled by private corporate 'TRADE SECRETS,' as ours is--and they do a whopping 55% audit, whereas many states in the U.S. do NO audit; and even the best states do a very inadequate one).

Anyway, what I'm saying is that rightwing forces in collusion with the U.S. have now had time to figure out more effective ways to disempower the poor majority once again and dominate and exploit the region, as the U.S. has always done. Obama, who at first seemed to promise something better, is not better, and could end up being even worse than Bush. I expect more losses for the left--by U.S.-instigated coup (the Central American countries are particularly vulnerable) or by manipulated elections (manipulated one way or another). And if that doesn't work to stem the democracy tide and restore U.S. corporate/war profiteer rule, there could a war (with Venezuela's oil coast the main target, and a "lesson" to all). This could influence Venezuelan voters (the scare tactic) or not. They are pretty impervious to U.S. and other corpo-fascist propaganda and have experienced unusual stability with the Chavez government after the initial U.S.-supported coup and oil strike failed (2002-2003).

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"I'm sure the news would be more positive if Chavez didn't spend most of his time using a fairly hateful and insulting message towards people he disagrees with." --social_critic

I have never read or heard anything from Chavez that was "hateful." He is often blunt--but he doesn't engage in hate speech. Calling it as he sees it--for instance, calling the U.S. "the empire" or saying, regarding Obama, that he "is the prisoner of the Pentagon"--may actually be charitable statements. But I don't know what you are referring to. Please enlighten me.

The corpo-fascist 'news' would be relentlessly negative about Chavez no matter what he said--because he and his government have mounted a significant challenge to U.S. power in the region, and they have been important in rallying Latin American countries toward cooperative economic/political action, to counter U.S. bullying and domination. They also have been successful in demonstrating certain social policies that the U.S. corpo-fascist establishment hates with a venom, such as universal health care. You know what one of the coup generals in Honduras said? He said that, by their coup, they are "preventing communism from Venezuela from reaching the United States." Venezuela is not communist, but they DO have universal free medical care, free education through college and other social programs that our corporate rulers don't want us to know about, and would dismantle and crush if they could, as they have done here.

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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 08:35 PM
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7. Apparently the leftist candidate is now dead-even with the rightwing candidate in Chile
as of the latest pre-election poll.

See
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=405x29199

I mention this because I badmouthed the left's chances in Chile in the above comment--not having seen this poll. The leftist candidate has made dramatic gains in the last few weeks.
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social_critic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 10:40 PM
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8. Hateful and Blunt
He uses coarse language, expresses hate for those who oppose him. His senior liutenants express hate openly for the middle class. They are uneducated, corrupt, and incompetent. And this is why your "miracle" is going up in smoke. The growth you brag about is the result of high oil prices, mostly caused by the growth in the Asian tiger economies. Today, as oil prices drop, Venezuela is showing the signs of an economy and society in disarray. That "conservative" oil price projection you mention is baloney, their oil production is crashing, they can't run their refineries, and they don't have intelligent people to run their oil fields, because most intelligent oil engineers left Venezuela.

High inflation, water shortages, no electricity, capital flight, no investment, high crime rates, shortages, crumbling infrastructure, upper education collapsing, brain drain, middle class flight, a democracy being undermined by a primitivist cult of a nutcase wearing red outfits. Latin America's Idi Amin. You are soooo funny licking his boots.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 09:38 PM
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9. Well, welcome to DU, social_critic! You'll find a lot of compadres here who agree with you. I don't.
And I'm rather appalled at the comparison of Hugo Chavez to Idi Amin (and to Robert Mugabe, which others have made). There is no resemblance whatsoever. And this extremist comparison is a giveaway that your views are driven by emotion and are not reasonable.

Your whole rant is full of exaggerations like this, and it leaves out a whole lot of facts--for instance, the most economic growth during the 2003 to 2008 period occurred in the private sector, not including oil. And, though you are right, that use of the oil revenues spurred growth, how it did so is important--through social programs and policies that put money in the hands of the poor. It didn't spur growth by stuffing Exxon Mobil executives' pockets with money. It spread the money around. In fact, that's what Obama should be doing, and that's what FRD did do, during the "New Deal." The poor and the lower middle class are the most likely to spend. Give them jobs, especially decent paying jobs, direct payments if they need it (pensions for the elderly, subsidies for the extreme poor), put them into education and re-training programs, and so on, and they will buy things. Exxon Mobil, on the other hand, will spend money strictly for its own benefit and the benefit of its fatcat executives and big investors. The answer to a severely damaged economy, such as the Chavez government inherited from previous administrations, is to spend money on the poor, if you are lucky enough to have it--and Venezuela was. How else would you have had the oil money spent, when prices rose?

You also leave out the Chavez government's renegotiation of the oil contracts, changing the giveaway cut of a 10/90 split, favoring the multinational corporations, to a fairer cut, of 60/40, favoring Venezuela and its social programs. Exxon Mobil pulled out, because, as we know, they want ALL the profits. But most others did not. You also leave out that Venezuela's production is determined by OPEC. They are deliberately under-producing to drive oil prices back up. And, finally, you leave out that half of Venezuela's budget comes, not from the oil, but from other business and income, including improved tax collection (going after Venezuela's tax scofflaws--a common problem in Latin America--which the Chavez government has addressed).

Venezuela met all of its Millennium goals--with great reductions in poverty. Venezuela has an election system that is far, FAR more transparent than our own. Chavez has not "grabbed power." He has been genuinely elected, repeatedly, by big majorities. And he has harmed no one, and has in fact fought for the equal rights of women, gays, African-Venezuelans, the indigenous and other excluded groups. He rules by consent of the people, in fair and transparent and internationally certified elections, and he and his government scrupulously follow the Venezuelan constitution. Chavez has no powers that are not granted to him by the constitution or by the elected national assembly as a result of their constitutional right to do so (for instance, granting temporary, time and issue restricted powers of decree--a common practice in Latin America).

I see infinite improvement in the lives and rights of ordinary people--the majority, the workers, the poor, children, the sick, the elderly, excluded groups--over previous administrations. And I will just cite one of many similar statistics: A 40% increase in high school and higher education enrollment. You throw "upper education collapsing" into your list of doom. What do you base this on? Please tell me how that gels with a 40% increase in upper education enrollment?

Idi Amin seized power in a military coup. Chavez was the victim of a military coup, and Venezuelans poured into the streets by the tens of thousands to object and to demand return of their president to his rightful office and return of constitutional order. Chavez represented order. The rightwing were the disorderly group--the Idi Amin's. Idi Amin suspended the constitution. Who did that in Venezuela? Not Chavez. The rightwing coupsters suspended the Venezuelan constitution, the courts, the national assembly and all civil rights--just like Idi Amin. Idi Amin went on to massacre people who opposed him, and that would very likely have been the next acts of rightwing coupsters in Venezuela, after they suspended constitutional order and all civil rights--the murder of Chavez, members of Chavez's government and other leftists. That's been the rightwing's habit in Latin America, the moment they gain power, as they are doing now in Honduras, have been doing for quite a while in Colombia, and have done in numerous Latin American countries over the last half century. Who has Chavez killed? He has killed no one. He holds power legitimately. He respects the constitution and everyone's civil rights.

Your comparison to Idi Amin is ridiculous in its extremity. You are trying to raise some kind of dark bogeyman specter that doesn't fit Chavez in the least.

"...a primitivist cult of a nutcase wearing red outfits"???

I won't go into Robert Mugabe, because you don't mention that bogeyman figure--although others with your views have. It's interesting how dark the bogeymen are that you and others with your views utilize to so wrongfully beat up on Chavez. And "primitive cult" is over the top. Ever watch a football game or political convention in the U.S.? All those stupid people yelling like stuck mooses, or all those ugly, "red, white & blue" plastic hats and other yahoo equipment at political conventions? Those could also be called "primitive cults." It's something ALL people do, not just Chavistas. It's typical of sports or political events almost everywhere. Why pick on Chavez for holding campaign rallies, and trying to rev up his political base? I don't like sports events or political rallies myself. It's just a matter of taste and of claustrophobia. But I have no objection to what other people want to do. It's not bad. It's just a form of expression--and a rather important one to many people. You treat it like some kind of weird aberration.

All of your statements are like this--venomous, full of gross exaggeration, untrue. Why should we trust your economic analysis--especially since there are so many actual facts to the contrary, and more reasonable, knowledgeable opinions to consult.

You should be praising Chavez for inspiring so many people, for bringing so many excluded people into the political process, for creating enthusiasm and hope in the barrios where peoples' lives have been so difficult, for pushing democracy instead of sullen rebellion that leads nowhere, for pushing education and literacy, for spurring astonishing economic growth instead of giving Venezuela's wealth away, for running a stable ship except for the rightwing coup and the oil bosses' lockout during the 2002-2003 period--hardly Chavez's fault when people are trying to overthrow the constitutional government--for winning elections honestly instead of how George Bush won them, and for giving Venezuela one of fairest, most human rights oriented, and most prosperous periods in its history.

Sure there are problems. What country doesn't have problems? Venezuelans are gun-happy and have a high murder rate, but if Chavez clamped down on Venezuelan guns and started pouring bigger chunks of the budget into law enforcement, guess what people with your views would be saying about it? I laugh to think of it. "Police state!" you would cry. "Fascism!" "Nazi boots!" Venezuela is too dependent on oil, true--but using the profits for social spending is the best possible use of the oil money especially in a country that the rightwing had looted and impoverished, utterly neglecting education, health care and other social needs of the majority. If Venezuela is to have a good future, it has to continue increasing school enrollment as the Chavez government has been doing with dramatic success; it has to foster the energy and creativity of all Venezuelans, not just the privileged. That is where innovation and prosperity will come from--from investing that wealth in the people. It is not Chavez's fault that the Bushwhacks crashed the world economy. It's hard times for everyone, but Venezuela is doing better than most. In fact, the Chavez government's foresight and good management landed Venezuela on its feet, with good credit, low debt, high cash reserves and five years of previous high growth.

That is the truth of the matter, but I guess you have an emotional block against acknowledging that. I lean towards Chavez because our corpo-fascist press and people like you engage in such absurd exaggeration, stereotyping, bogeyman creation and obliviousness to facts. i admit it. I never post negative stuff about Chavez--because I see this relentless and unreasonable bias against him. I naturally want to counter it in the interest of truth. I also see that the Chavez government is the creation of MANY people--all kinds of cabinet members, agency heads, experts of various kind, professionals, academics, finance ministers, heads of this and that and all their staff people, and all the people who got Chavez elected--the activists and the grass roots groups and the social movements--and all the people who voted for him and his government, and all the people who poured into the streets to save their government from a rightwing coup. When you call Chavez "Idi Amin," you are insulting most of the people in Venezuela. Would they serve "Idi Amin"? Would they vote for "Idi Amin"? Would Chavez's neighbor, Lula da Silva, meet monthly with "idi Amin"--and share many common goals with "Idi Amin"?

It would be funny if it were not such dangerous nonsense.


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social_critic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 10:44 PM
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10. Chavez and Idi Amin
I compared Chavez to Idi Amin because recently Chavez was saying good things about the Ugandan madman. And Chavez does share some of the same traits, including his buffoonery, driving intelligent people away from the country, economic mismanagement, corruption, high crime, and alliance with terrorist types.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 06:30 PM
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11. PDVSA (Chavez gov't run oil company) pays off all its debts.
PDVSA (Chavez gov't run oil company) pays off all its debts.
http://www.upstreamonline.com/live/article203808.ece

S&P index upgrades Venezuela's rating (after voluntary, long expected devaluation of the bolivar)
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN1110554720100111?type=marketsNews

The spectacular economic growth and success of social programs in Venezuela (discussion, posted by me)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=405x29280

------------------------

The Chávez Administration at 10 Years:
The Economy and Social Indicators


by Mark Weisbrot, Rebecca Ray and Luis Sandoval

February 2009

Executive Summary

This paper looks at some of the most important economic and social indicators during the 10 years
of the Chávez administration in Venezuela, as well as the current economic expansion. It also looks
at the current situation and challenges.

Among the highlights:

--The current economic expansion began when the government got control over the national
oil company in the first quarter of 2003. Since then, real (inflation-adjusted) GDP has nearly
doubled
, growing by 94.7 percent in 5.25 years, or 13.5 percent annually.

--Most of this growth has been in the non-oil sector of the economy, and the private sector
has grown faster than the public sector
.

--During the current economic expansion, the poverty rate has been cut by more than half,
from 54 percent of households in the first half of 2003 to 26 percent at the end of 2008.
Extreme poverty has fallen even more, by 72 percent. These poverty rates measure only cash
income, and do not take into account increased access to health care or education.

--Over the entire decade, the percentage of households in poverty has been reduced by 39
percent, and extreme poverty by more than half.

--Inequality, as measured by the Gini index, has also fallen substantially. The index has fallen
to 41 in 2008, from 48.1 in 2003 and 47 in 1999. This represents a large reduction in
inequality.

--Real (inflation-adjusted) social spending per person more than tripled from 1998-2006.

--From 1998-2006, infant mortality has fallen by more than one-third. The number of primary
care physicians in the public sector increased 12-fold
from 1999-2007, providing health care
to millions of Venezuelans who previously did not have access.

--There have been substantial gains in education, especially higher education, where gross
enrollment rates more than doubled
from 1999-2000 to 2007-2008*.

--The labor market also improved substantially over the last decade, with unemployment
dropping from 11.3 percent to 7.8 percent
. During the current expansion it has fallen by
more than half. Other labor market indicators also show substantial gains.

--Over the past decade, the number of social security beneficiaries has more than doubled.

--Over the decade, the government’s total public debt has fallen from 30.7 to 14.3 percent of
GDP. The foreign public debt has fallen even more, from 25.6 to 9.8 percent of GDP.

--Inflation is about where it was 10 years ago, ending the year at 31.4 percent. However it has
been falling over the last half year (as measured by three-month averages) and is likely to
continue declining this year in the face of strong deflationary pressures worldwide.


http://www.cepr.net/documents/publications/venezuela-2009-02.pdf

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*(The 2008 report has a stat that really struck me: A 45% increase in high school and higher education enrollment, and yet more in 2009. Think what that means for Venezuela's future, and what that indicates about the Chavez government's priorities.)

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You are talking garbage, social_critic. "...economic mismanagement"? Doubling the country's GDP? Cutting poverty in half? "...driving intelligent people away from the country"? By, um, doubling enrollment in higher education?

You don't know what you're talking about. You are a propagandist speaking from emotion. Where you see a "buffoon," I see a leader with a strong commitment to education--a man who reads Noam Chomsky--head of a government that has wiped out illiteracy in Venezuela and has increased high school and higher education enrollment by 45% by 2008, and another 5% for higher education by 2009. I also see, from an economic management point of view, the best government that Venezuelans have ever had. My opinions are based on facts--not on stereotypes and bogeymen. You need to examine the source of your venomous hated for Chavez and, by implication, for the people of Venezuela, who have voted for him as president several times, by big margins. You can wallow in emotion, and you can try to gain some objectivity.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 06:43 PM
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12. Come come, you are going to cause cognitive disconnect, have a heart.
Mr(?) Critic thinks Chavez is comparable to Idi Amin and Mugabe. One suspects an infringement of Godwin's Law is not too far away.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 07:28 PM
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13. Enjoy your stay.
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