Police bar Cuba's 'Ladies in White' from marching

[naaman fletcher]

HAVANA — Police broke up a weekly march by wives and mothers of imprisoned Cuban opposition leaders Sunday, forcing them onto a bus and driving them home as a pro-government crowd screamed insults.
Uniformed police and plainclothes security agents blocked a sidewalk along Havana's Fifth Avenue, stopping five members of the "Damas de Blanco," or "Ladies in White," from following their traditional march route, said Bertha Soler, one of the group's leaders.
"There was a mob of government people shouting things," Soler said when reached by phone later at the home of Laura Pollan, who co-founded the group. Soler's husband, Angel Moya, is in jail for dissident activities.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g_EdPSOoRTf2qec5rj312LvNNTiwD9F165HG1

[flamingdem]

1. Change the quotes to Police "bar" Ladies in White from Marching

Because they had to do that for their safety. The agitated crowd? Well we know there are competing agendas but one in particular is A. FUNDED BY THE USA and B. LOOKING FOR AN INCIDENT

[naaman fletcher]

2. Just to be clear,

You are saying that the Ladies in white were banned from marching in order to protect them from crowds that the US told to attack the ladies in white?

[Mika]

4. Your post reads like proto's ditto bot.

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[naaman fletcher]

5. I'm just asking for verification of what the poster meant. nt.

[protocol rv]

12. LOL

I got to learn to post pictures here. We could land in the blogger's hall of fame, you and I. You should see the pictures I've collected over the years.

[Mika]

3. Right. Straight outta the mouth of "said Bertha Soler, one of the group's leaders."

The Assoc Pukes just verbatim what the traitor's wives mewl.

"I don't understand why we have to ask permission to march," Soler said.

She'd be gravely disappointed with most any city/town in the US, including Miami, that all require permits to assemble organized marches thru a city.

Even Gloria had to cough up the $250 for a permit and many thousands of dollars to pay for the required police presence for her last grandstanding effort marching with Posada in solidarity with the wives of convicted aiders and abettors of terrorists - the Cuban "ladies".

Can't blame 'em though, for wanting to be freer than us.... no permits 'n all.

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[flamingdem]

6. Exactemundo

What country is going to allow violence to be incited in the streets with so many people with agendas behind it?

The Damas have to be careful not be be manipulated. They could lose their funding!
Well maybe they are sincere in not wanting funding now but they apparently did before.

[protocol rv]

7. how often does Cuba's regime give permits to march?

I'd like to see their record. Do they even have a form one has to fill out?

[Mika]

8. They were kicked off of the Plaza a few weeks ago b/c another group had a permit.

Like smart republicans, they execute good stagecraft with a willing media.

The ladies husbands were consorting with and aiding and abetting terrorists who have set off bombs in Cuba killing people.

The crowd berating the ladies have set a good example of the way Posada and Bosch should be treated in public - by berating them verbally. These exile terrorists are murdering scum, and decent Democrats shouldn't be defending their aiders and abettors - in the US or Cuba.

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[protocol rv]

9. Here's some articles about demonstrations in the USA

Time Magazine advises its readers about demonstration rules US style

SIDEWALK MARCHES AND PICKETING are constitutionally protected from most interference by public officials, although several cities demand permits and Illinois law bars picketing in front of private residences. Marchers' legal protection probably applies to most privately owned thoroughfares that are used regularly by the public, such as the paths and parking lots of shopping centers. Peaceful participants can march as far as they like, stretch out the line of march, chant, and even subject pedestrians to minor inconveniences without being penalized. Pickets who remain standing instead of walking cannot be arrested for refusing to obey police orders to keep moving, unless the police have reason to believe that the demonstrators are blocking traffic or preventing pedestrians from normal movement.

STREET PARADES require permits virtually everywhere, as do activities in most parks and the use of sound equipment. Though permission may not be denied arbitrarily, standards of reasonableness are still in flux. Chicago reacted to the 1968 Democratic Convention riots by enacting a new law requiring the city to grant or deny permits within two days after applications are filed. The New York Civil Liberties Union wryly advises: "It may be well to apply for such a permit. If you don't get it, you will then have better defense if you are arrested."

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,876697,00.html

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Minneapolis considering a regulation:

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2008/06/03/mplsprotestpermits/

"Members of the Minneapolis city council are at odds over a proposal to regulate public demonstrations. The creators of the law say it will help the city handle the multiple protests likely during the Republican National Convention in September. Opponents say it places unneccessary restrictions on the first amendment rights of protestors."

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Iranian Americans have problems in Chicago

"Iranian-American demonstrators said they had difficulty getting a permit for a planned protest Tuesday, but they ultimately received one, and a protest will go ahead. The demonstration over the Iranian elections is set for 4:30 p.m. in Federal Plaza, said organizer Farnaz Abdollahi.
On Monday, organizers told CBS 2 they were refused permits when they went to City Hall. They said they were not given a specific reason for why the permits were rejected. On Monday, Mayor Daley's press secretary Jackie Heard said the group hadn't approached the city about a permit. But Abdollahi said while there was difficulty in getting the permits, the group ultimately received them."

"http://cbs2chicago.com/local/iran.protest.permit.2.1046240.html

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And in the heartland of Bush country, Texas, University Students apparently march in anti war protest without a permit

"A group of about 30 people met Sunday evening on the UNT Denton campus holding flags and signs for “Funk the War,” a peace march and fundraiser led by the UNT Campus Anti-War Network. The march marked the seventh anniversary of the U.S. invasion and occupation in Iraq and Afghanistan.

“Our goal out here today is to bring other people who want to actively resist this occupation together, because the only way we’re going to end these occupations is not to appeal to the power structure, not by appealing to the president, or Congress, or the Senators, or to the corporations who are profiting off this war,” said UNT senior Garrett Graham. “The only way we can stop these occupations now and in the future is to change our society fundamentally.”

The people who came to participate in the protest were diverse and included a large number of college students, bongo players, a 9-year-old boy, his 51-year-old mother, an Iraq War veteran and a man in a bunny suit. Despite their many differences, they all had one thing in common: They want the U.S. troops back home and the conflicts to end. The more-than-a-mile march officially started at 7 p.m. As the night went on, the crowd began to multiply and chant anti-war sayings. Onlookers honked and cheered as the protesters passed."

http://www.ntdaily.com/?p=7936

[Mika]

10. More here...

http://news.google.com/news/search?aq=0&pz=1&cf=all&ned=us&hl=en&q=police+brutality&oq=Police

Freedumb. :dunce:

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[protocol rv]

11. That's right, they have demonstrations and those are probed

That's the big difference, Mika, in most countries there are problems. People protest, pass out leaflets, post on the internet. People acknowledge the problems, they complain, the press prints the complaints, there are investigations, sometimes those are flawed, sometimes they punish the guilty, sometimes they do not. That's what being human is about.

But that's something communists who support repressive regimes don't get. In Cuba there is no free press, there is no way for the people to really vent, grab a lawyer, recall a government official from office, kick the bums out and put another party in power. And this is what makes the system there so inefficient...the people in power have morphed into an oligarchy, entrenched in power. They know they got lifetime jobs, and they don't perform. They look out for number one, and the family and clan.

They are corrupt, and the Constitution cements them in place, while they have a repression machine typical of communist regimes. Hell man, in Chile even Pinochet, one of the cruelest and most repressive right wing dictators, gave up power to a socialist, and now the socialist was replaced with a center-right politician, and life goes on. But the Cuban regime is entrenched, and its very evident its rotten to the core. It needs to change. This change can be carried out by somebody like Raul using a machete and a blow torch, or it will be done by the people themselves. But it's time for change. The people sense it, Raul knows it, and he will have to do something about putting Fidel in a retirement home, tell him to shut up, and Cuba can get on with life.