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rabs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 03:30 PM
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Uribe insinuates "criminals" have penetrated the Washington Post

Looks like the Juan Forero article about his paramilitary brother has alvarito all in a outraged tizzy and he sounds like he is losing it. Will be interesting to see how the Post responds and as I said in another thread, Forero should very, very careful.


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eltiempo.com / colombia / política
Uribe aseguró que 'criminales' tienen capacidad de 'penetrar' un periódico como The Washington Post'


~~~~~ snip ~~~~~~

"los criminales tienen la capacidad de convertir en idiota útil a un Premio Nobel de la Paz, tienen la capacidad de convertir en idiota útil a un sacerdote y tienen capacidad de penetrar un periódico serio como The Washington Post".

"criminals have the capacity to convert a Nobel Peace Prize winner into an idiot, they have the capacity to convert a priest into a useful idiot and have the capacity of penetrating a sersious newspaper such as the The Washington Post."

(The Nobel winner he refers to is Perez-Esquivel of Argentina, the padre is Javier Giraldo (under death threats in Colombia) and of course the Washington "Pest," as PP calls it.


El Tiempo article in Spanish, worth reading.

http://www.eltiempo.com/colombia/politica/uribe-criminales-tienen-capacidad-de-penetrar-al-the-washington-post_7729103-1


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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 04:03 PM
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1. Uribe is so used to his own country's journalists who have been terrorized enough by now
that the surviving ones admit they "self-censor" to protect themselves.

Colombia didn't get the reputation of being one of the most dangerous countries in the entire world for journalists under Uribe by accident.

Juan Forero has taken too much comfort from his belief being a Washington Post journalist will protect him. You were right. He should watch his back. There are a lot of other writers on Colombia who would concur if they could but they died.







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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 04:45 PM
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2. Recommending.
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rabs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 06:17 PM
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3. Found an English version





Colombian President Alvaro Uribe said the Washington Post was penetrated by criminals, after the U.S. newspaper printed allegations by a former police major that the president's brother Santiago Uribe led a paramilitary group, reports El Espectador.

"Criminals have the ability to turn a Nobel Peace prize winner into a useful idiot, to make a useful idiot of a priest, and penetrate a serious newspaper like the Washington Post," Uribe said.


http://colombiareports.com/colombia-news/news/9964-uribe-washington-post-penetrated-by-criminals.html

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Btw, sent an email to Juan Forero telling him to be careful. He responded briefly within minutes.
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Re: Message via washingtonpost.com: Uribe todayFriday, May 28, 2010 4:30 PM

Hello Mr. xxxxx,

Thanks so much for your msge.

Best,

Juan F.

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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 09:21 AM
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4. I've been wondering who/what Uribe might squeal about, as he gets dumped by
the CIA/Washington Psst establishment--or if Panetta had convinced him to go quietly. His past wild charges--that every leftist critic in Colombia is a "terrorist," that Hugo Chavez and Rafael Correa are "terrorist lovers" (and were helping the FARC get a "dirty bomb"), etc., etc.--make him a supremely unreliable accuser, still...I suspect he has a closet full of Bush Cartel skeletons (crammed in there with his own) and certainly has been at the center of the bloody, filthy U.S.-Bushwhack/Colombia relationship, with all its bloody, filthy secrets.

Do you have any idea what he means by "criminals" turning "a Nobel Peace prize winner into a useful idiot," and making "a useful idiot of a priest"?

I couldn't parse those. As for "criminals" at the Washington Psst, if copying and pasting faxes from the CIA and calling this journalism, and rah-rah-ing the criminal organization that was/is the Bush Junta, and never seeing a slaughter of a million innocent people they didn't like, and being egregious liars, spinners and war profiteers are criminal acts, then the Psst most certainly is a parallel, supporting criminal organization--but not for Uribe's reasons (his getting jettisonned).
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rabs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 04:23 PM
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7. uribito jettisonned

"Do you have any idea what he means by "criminals" turning "a Nobel Peace prize winner into a useful idiot," and making "a useful idiot of a priest"?

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uribe used the word "criminals" (plural) but he was specifically referring to former Colombian poice major Juan Carlos Meneses, who gave the interview to Juan Forero of the Washington Post about uribe's brother Santiago and his "12 Apostles" paramilitary group.

Later will search for reaction by Noble winner perez-esquibel and padre javier jiraldo. There might be something in the Argentine press. Have seen no reaction to uribito's outburst in the Washington Post. Oh, the El Tiempo article that reported uribito's remarks was scrubbed from the online version yesterday evening after being up for most of the day.

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You have wondered whether uribe is being dumped. I would say he is being noriega-ed, diem-ed, or shah-of-iran-ed. uribe is so incredibly dirty that even Obama probably does not want to have anything to do with him. (btw, Hil is scheduled to be in Bogota on June 8-9, right in the midst of a possible second-round presidential runoff. Why? I don't know yet.)

In recent months it is as if a manhole cover has been removed and all the sewer stench has been released of massive government corruption, the paramilitary massacres, DAS-gate, Yidispolitics (bribery to congress members to allow uribe's re-election in 2006), false positives, the unrest in the military and on and on. There will be much more to come before and after Aug. 7 when uribito leaves the palace.

Here is an article by a Colombian journalist that I saw last night, related to the Washington Post and Huffington Post.

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Since Alvaro Uribe was elected president in 2002, he has counted on the virtually unconditional support of the American government. For the most part, the American media has been similarly favorable to Mr. Uribe. Most American news reports on Colombia have focused on Uribe’s notable successes, such as the liberation of the FARC guerrilla’s most prominent hostages, including three Americans, in 2008. By contrast, the president’s newsworthy shortcomings, namely his inability to stem human rights abuses and corruption in Colombia, have gone largely unreported in the American press. Despite Uribe’s staunch conservatism and hard-line security policies, even the U.S.’s leading liberal newspapers, the Washington Post and the New York Times, have been quite kind to the president. Both papers generally support, for example, the U.S.-Colombia free trade agreement, which many human rights and labor groups oppose partly because of continued violence against union leaders during Uribe’s eight years in office.

~~~~~~~snip~~~~~~

It was therefore surprising that, this week, two prominent American media outlets – the Washington Post and the Huffington Post, a liberal online newspaper – published pieces that directly attacked the integrity of the outgoing president’s government and family.

~~~~~~~snip~~~~~~~~

The timing of this negative press, especially the Washington Post article, is obviously meant to roughly coincide with Colombia’s upcoming elections. But why are media outlets that previously paid very little attention to political, security and human rights problems in Colombia suddenly changing their tone now and not at previous political crossroads such as 2006 Colombian elections or the 2008 American elections.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~snip~~~~~~~~~

On the Huffington Post website, which has an explicit liberal stance but which had previously reported only rarely on Colombia, American human rights lawyer Dan Kovalik published an opinion piece that suggested links between the Colombian Embassy in Washington and recent paramilitary death threats sent to American NGOs.

Full article

http://colombiareports.com/opinion/the-colombiamerican/9945-us-media-turns-on-uribe-is-mockus-hurting-the-presidents-image.html




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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 06:58 PM
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8. Threats against WOLA, thats kicking Washington's dog.
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 11:42 AM
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5. Blame the messenger.
Come to think of it, I've said about the same about the Post.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 12:30 PM
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6. If anyone knows what criminals are capable of, it's Uribe. n/t
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rabs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 03:28 PM
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9. Explanatory video of what set uribito off against the Post.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 05:11 PM
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10. Good to see the video. The cop's no winner himself, as one who participated in this criminality,
it's plain to see, and finally we see the motive behind his going public!

He was trying to save his own life, having heard he was going to be killed because he knew too much and they didn't want him around.

Now he runs the added risk of being killed for revenge! However he's tried to get in front of it by claiming if something happens to him it will call more attention to the situation.

It's great to see someone speaking about it on You Tube, especially considering the fact it's almost impossible to get any truth concerning the filthy government and the paramilitaries published.

Thank you for posting this, rabs. :hi:
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 12:56 AM
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11. LTTE, to Washington Post re: Santiago Uribe
An unfair attack on President Álvaro Uribe's brother
Wednesday, June 2, 2010

Regarding the May 24 news story "Colombian leader's kin tied to death squads":

The article was centered on allegations against President Álvaro Uribe's brother, Santiago Uribe, by Juan Carlos Meneses, a retired police major, but it did not mention that Mr. Meneses was removed from the police force after a series of investigations into alleged illegal conduct by him.

The article also failed to mention that Mr. Meneses stands accused of being the liaison on behalf of a major criminal organization in Colombia in its attempt to bribe a colonel in the Colombian military.

The article accurately stated that Mr. Meneses "has not yet provided testimony to judicial authorities," yet The Post's prominent display of his unsubstantiated allegations, with an incendiary headline, would suggest otherwise. The allegations against President Uribe's brother were fully investigated and dropped by the Colombian Congress and Colombia's courts -- both independent arms of the government.

In failing to report important information about the character and motivation of the star "witness" against Santiago Uribe, The Post has unfairly tarnished reputations and the solid track record of the Colombian government, which has been recognized elsewhere in The Post on numerous occasions.

Carolina Barco, Washington

The writer is Colombia's ambassador to the United States.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/01/AR2010060103619.html

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