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magbana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 11:12 AM
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FIDEL: "The US, Europe and Human Rights"
Reflections by comrade Fidel

http://www.cuba.cu/gobierno/reflexiones/2008/ing/f200608i.html

THE UNITED STATES, EUROPE AND HUMAN RIGHTS

The discredited way in which the European Union suspended its
sanctions on Cuba on June 19 has been reported in 16 international
press dispatches. It has absolutely no economic effect on our
country. On the contrary, the United States' extraterritorial laws
and, thus, its economic and financial blockade are still fully in
effect.

At my age and with my state of health, one cannot be sure of the time
one has left to live. Nevertheless, I want to express my contempt
towards the immense hypocrisy of that decision. Such hypocrisy is
made all the more evident by the brutal European measure to expel
illegal immigrants from Latin American countries, some of which have
populations which, in their majority, are of European origin.
Immigrants are also the fruit of colonial, semi-colonial and
capitalist exploitation.

In the name of human rights, Cuba is asked to grant impunity to those
who would bind the feet and hands of the homeland and its people and
hand them over to imperialism.

Even Mexican authorities have to admit that the Miami-based mob, at
the service of the U.S. government, used force to snatch from the
hands of an important contingent of migratory agents, or bought,
dozens of illegal immigrants who had been arrested in Quintana Roo,
including innocent children transported by force across risk-laden
seas and mothers obliged to emigrate. Traffickers of human beings,
like drug traffickers, who take advantage of the largest and most
coveted of the world’s markets, have undermined the authority and
moral statute needed by any government to lead the State, spilling
Latin American blood everywhere, to say nothing of those who die
trying to emigrate by climbing over the humiliating border wall
erected over what was once Mexican territory.

The food and energy crises, climate change and inflation are
scourging the world's nations. As political helplessness prevails,
ignorance and illusions tend to flourish. Not one of these
governments, let alone those of the Czech Republic and Sweden, which
were firmly opposed to the European Union’s decision, was able to
give coherent answers to the questions that have been put on the
table.

All the while, in Cuba, the mercenaries and traitors at the empire's
service are at their wit’s end and throw up their hands in horror in
defense of the rights to treachery and impunity.

I have many more things to say, but let this suffice for today. It is
not my intention to trouble others with these words, but, as I am
alive, I continue to think about these things.

I shall publish this reflection on the Internet only, today, June 20,
2008.

Fidel Castro

1:55 p.m.
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Zorro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 11:30 AM
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1. Hey comrade Fidel! Want to improve Cuba's international relationships?
Go take a dirt nap. That will improve the situation 100%.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:05 PM
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2. That will do about as much good as moronic pronouncements
like yours.

What you know about Cuba wouldn't even fill a tiny thimble. More like: a half thimble full.



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Zorro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 06:29 PM
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3. Pimping for Fidel again, I see
Edited on Sat Jun-21-08 07:28 PM by Zorro
For someone so enamoured with Cuba and its society, one has to wonder why you haven't taken up permanent residence there.

Is it because you wouldn't have unfettered internet access to continue your ridiculous propagandizing about the worker's paradise that is Cuba today?
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 10:59 PM
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4. If you had half a clue you would know that ...
... a) Cuba doesn't have an open immigration policy. Funny how its the Bush policy supporters who post "I should move there" here.

Plus... b) if I was pimping for Fidel in Cuba wouldn't I have unfettered internet access to do so? You are making less sense with each post.

Also... c) please find ANY post where I have claimed that Cuba is a "worker's paradise". One will do.

Thanks.


Keep flailing away. You're silly posts & pretzel logic are a big hit with my Cuban friends who check in here from time to time.


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Zorro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 11:58 PM
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5. Another lame ass excuse
"Cuba doesn't have an open immigration policy". Yeah, that's the ticket...you can't move there because "Cuba doesn't have an open immigration policy". A country closed to immigration -- why, that's a sign of a free and open society! Who'da thunk that?

Worker's paradise? You've apparently overlooked these forgotten claims you asserted from a previous thread:

"You deserve the same rights as the Cuban people. The right to housing. The right to universal health care for you and all of your family. The right to universal education for you and your children. Cubans have those rights enshrined in their constitution, and the Cuban people, together with their government, have made them possible and a reality by hard work and representative government."

I'm glad to hear I'm a big hit with your comrades. Just keep up your blatantly phony propagandizing; mis botas estan amarradas.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 05:05 PM
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6. So its you who claims that Cuba is a "workers paradise".
Not me.

Find ONE post where I claim that Cuba is a "workers paradise".

You won't be able to find one.

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Yes, your posts are a big hit. :dunce:



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Zorro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 08:46 PM
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10. Looks like you really told me off, comrade
NOT.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 09:55 AM
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7. Meet The New Boss, Same As The Old Boss
As much as Fidel's passing may be desired both by Cuban expats and by those folks hoping that his demise might lead to economic and political improvements on the island, there isn't much proof that Fidel's demise means much in the way of greater respect for freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of association, or freedom to exchange ideas and information without fear of reprisal by state security organs or spiteful government bureaucrats. For now, at least, the faction that has ruled Cuba since 1959 seems to not only be firmly in charge but renewing itself from within its own ranks.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 07:08 PM
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8. And your vast experience in Cuba is?

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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 06:56 AM
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9. More Than Some Parlor Pinks
I admit that I may not have spent months at a time in Cuba, but what I saw during my two visits did NOT impress me. What I saw was a large, run-down, impoverished Caribbean island rife with decaying buildings, so-so highways, and an awful lot of people wearing second-hand threads brought down from the US mainland. Outside of the newer or rebuilt tourist hotels, much of Cuba looks like a tropicalized East Germany before the Berlin Wall came down. Regardless of what US- and European-based parlor pinks might say, I did NOT see a thriving economy and compared to the back parts of El Salvador that I saw around the same time, Cuba looked worse, left-wing polemics about socialism, spirituality, and western materialism not withstanding.

No, I don't believe the bunkum about the US trade restrictions being at the heart of Cuba's economic troubles. It's a big, wide multi-polar economic world out there, and state-centrist Marxist-Leninist Cuba failed to liberalize its economy and take better advantage of the rise of other economic centers.

As for the Cuban political system, the fact that Cuba remains a one-party state with the current party in firmer control of Cuba than Karl Rove's wettest dreams about the Republican Party controlling the USA is the biggest open secret in this forum.

As for the excuse of right-wing terrorism being good grounds for political repression--pretty lame. Cuba went through worse civil unrest after the fall of Machado and avoided the actions and trappings of today's police state.

But do keep on posting. The rest of us can continue to do what we learned to do during the Cold War--sift through the starry-eyed far-left chaff for the REAL truth--and the Havana regime's shameless apologists can sink to the levels of public trust and credibility that Buckaroo Bush, Dead-Eye Dick Cheney, and Radio Mambi all presently enjoy.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 10:51 AM
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11. Your sifter has some pretty large holes.
Edited on Thu Jun-26-08 10:54 AM by Mika
Anyone who had actually been to the "back parts of El Salvador", as I have, and says that Cuba compares dis-favorably cannot be taken seriously. Anyone who says that US extra territorial trade sanctions on Cuba, that prohibit corporations - not countries - from trading with Cuba & the US, does not impact the economics of the Caribbean island cannot be taken seriously. Anyone who says that Cuba's political structure is "Karl Rove's wettest dream" cannot be taken seriously, especially so if claims are made that this is the biggest open secret in this forum. (And all of this learned from a couple of vacation weeks there.)

Those who say such things are mere starry eyed apologists for RW BushCrimeInc policy in the Caribbean and Latin Americas.


Meanwhile ... Cuba has been and continues to move forward, while you retain your old cold war sifter.


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