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LovinLife Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 07:17 PM
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The underpants bomb guy got on a plane oversees right? So what could Obama do about that?
It's not like he got on a plane in Boston or anywhere else within the boarders of the US, so why in the hell is the media trying so hard to blame Obama for this?


I feel for Obama when there is an actual terrorist attack.
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Dennis Donovan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 07:20 PM
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1. They'll blame him for everything - He's the new Clenis...
:D
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Powdered Toast Man Donating Member (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 07:23 PM
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2. Aside from close the borders.... Nothing.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 07:24 PM
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3. Pointing out the obvious rarely works...
I heard a RW screechmonkey say that that didn't make any difference; when pressed, he just kept repeating that line...:eyes:
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 07:32 PM
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4. Saw a bit of that blame Obama snit stuff here on DU
When I inquired about whether people realized the US does not run the world, there was a bit of 'but but but...'

It is astounding how many people just don't get the fact that what goes on (or doesn't go on) in the US is not necessarily globally. Astounding that one has to remind DUers of the reality of different nation/different rules/different practices, but it ain't just the wing nuts having problem with the facts that Obama is not in charge of the known universe.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 07:55 PM
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5. It doesn't have to make sense...
This is right wing and M$M policy.

It doesn't have to make sense, just repeated 5 times an hour on 6 propaganda networks and thousands of local so called news programs.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 07:59 PM
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 08:06 PM
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7. Further scrutinize open ended 2 year visa's for religious festivals.
granted to people whose father's turn them in for associating with extremists.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 08:10 PM
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8. If you read the papers and listen to the MSM and the republicans
they scream that Obama is trying to rule the world. Now they are complaining because he doesn't RULE the world.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 08:15 PM
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9. Well, I see the unrec brigade is out if force again.
:eyes:

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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 08:16 PM
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10. True. Don't you dare try to point out that Obama isn't responsible for something bad. We'll have
none of that here!
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 08:52 PM
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11. No President can prevent all terror attacks
That's am impossible standard. It's a matter of doing as much as possible, but still accepting the fact that perfection can never be attained. The horrid M$M always wants to blame someone other than the perpetrators.

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Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 02:52 PM
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15. Just like no mayor can prevent every murder in their city.
Nor does any sane person expect them to. It's ridiculous that that standard seems to be a part of the common folk-lore about what a president is capable of doing and that the media so asininely plays along.


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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 12:16 AM
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12. We should have had the bomber on a no-fly list, if everything had worked
Edited on Sun Jan-03-10 12:17 AM by pnwmom
optimally. The clues were there, but no one connected the dots.

We also should have revoked the bomber's VISA after the father reported him.
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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 12:52 AM
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13. It was an American airliner flying into the US
They could have prevented him from entering the US.
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jeanpalmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 03:39 AM
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14. Why blame Obama?
Because his bombing of Yemen caused the attempted bombing of the plane. It was an act of retaliation. Everyone knows it. What's amazing is so few in the msm are willing to make the connection. Instead they're blaming Obama for the security lapse that allowed the guy to get on the plane. Of course, the media can't make the connection, because that would undermine the hoaxes they've been promoting for 8 years -- the war on terror, and the Bush/Obama doctrine. Yet, some media people outside the msm are able to make the connection.

Again, independent of justification, what do we think is going to happen if we continuously invade, occupy and bomb Muslim countries and arm and enable others to do so? Isn't it obvious that our five-front actions are going to cause at least some Muslims -- subjected to constant images of American troops in their world and dead Muslim civilians at our hands, even if unintended -- to want to return the violence? Just look at the bloodthirsty sentiments unleashed among Americans even from a failed Terrorist attempt. What sentiments do we think we're unleashing from a decade-long (and counting and increasing) multi-front "war" in the Muslim war?


http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2009/12/29/terrorism/index.html
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 12:13 PM
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 12:52 PM
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17. not just overseas, but originating in a country where fraud is one of the top industries.
However, it sounds like HS and our "intelligence" agencies dropped the ball on coordinating watch lists and no-fly lists and other intelligence that probably should have kept the guy off the plane in the first place.

Wouldn't surprise me if at some point we set up two or three off-shore security check points where ALL inbound international flights will have to land for vigorous screening/searches before proceeding to mainland destinations. Of course, that will just mean terrrrists find some OTHER way to muck things up. As Billy Baldwin sez in "The Usual Suspects" -- "there's nothing that can't be done."
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 01:59 PM
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18. Hell, people HERE blame him. Why not the media? They hate democrats.
So blame is all they do. Yet, when Bush let New Orleans drown, they spouted the "don't play the blame game" meme constantly.

In this case, I'd say there were a few people responsible for not properly reporting the information about this guy. And I'd lay odds that one or more are folks who are hoping for a terrorist attack on Obama's watch. Just like the folks on Fox News.
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