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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 01:35 PM
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Nate-dog does his Nerdy Numbers Thing on the 2010 Congressional Elections
Edited on Thu Jan-07-10 01:36 PM by Clio the Leo
I think it's a bit premature to speculate too much at this point, but Nate Silver is the EF Hutton of the liberal number-crunching political world (at least he should be.) So if he has some thoughts on the matter ..... especially if they are good for us .... it's worth a read.

I'm reluctant to publish these as a matter of course, since when you begin to put specific numbers out there, people may assume that you're more certain about a race than you really are. Nevertheless, in light of what I think is somewhat inaccurate conventional wisdom that has developed around the 2010 Senate picture, it is probably worth "showing my work" on occasion. What you see above, then, are my very rough and premature estimates of probabilities of the various competitive and potentially competitive Senate seats switching hands.

If I aggregate my estimates from the individual races, I show Republicans picking up an average of 4.60 Democratic seats, but also, Democrats picking up an average of 2.65 Republican seats, for a net Republican gain of 1.95 seats.

But this is very important: the average is somewhat noninformative here, as these races do not operate independently from one another. It is somewhat unlikely -- though certainly not impossible -- that Republicans will pick up 4-5 Democratic seats and Democrats will pick up 2-3 Republican seats. If the national environment continues to improve for the Republicans, for example, perhaps they'll pick up six or all seven of the seats that are basically toss-ups or better (everything from Illinois upward), and perhaps put another race like California or Wisconsin into play, while defending one or all but one of their own seats.

On the other hand, if conditions improve for the Democrats, perhaps they can hold their losses to 2-3 seats (say North Dakota plus one or two from the group DE/NV/CO/AR) while picking up Missouri, perhaps two from the OH/KY/NH group, and one from the NC/FL/LA group. In that case, Democrats could hold at 60 seats ....


Now BRACE yourselves, sit down and make sure you're not holding any liquids in your mouth before you read this part...

or even improve their numbers to 61-62.


(running around screaming!!!! OBAMA IS THE GREAT CHESS MASTER!!!! OBAMA IS THE GREAT CHESS MASTER!!!! :) )

There are an unusually large number of Senate races in play this year and as such there is an unusually large amount of uncertainty surrounding the outcome. It also bears remembering that, although I remain quite pessimistic about what will happen to Democrats in the House, the Senate playing field is intriniscally more favorable to them. The Senators who are up for re-election this year are those who were elected in 2004 -- a good cycle for Republicans. And while Democrats were hurt by their retirements in North Dakota, Delaware, New York, Illinois and probably Colorado (they were helped by Chris Dodd's retirement in Connecticut), the Republicans have created opportunities for them with the retirements in Missouri, Ohio, New Hampshire and perhaps Florida (they were helped by Jim Bunning's retirement in Kentucky). If the 2006 senate class were up for re-election this year, Democrats would potentially face very substantial losses, but fortunately for Democrats they aren't.


Read More...
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2010/01/2010-senate-races-present-rewards-but.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 01:44 PM
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1. Nerdy Nate-Dog, the Number Cruncher. Ha!
:D



Love Nate!
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 01:45 PM
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2. Is he not the awesomeness?
I want a Nate Silver action figure.
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 01:47 PM
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3. isn't 'nate silver action figure' an oxymoron? eom
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 02:07 PM
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6. Nerd is the New Sexy.
The Washington Politics Journo is the new Boy Band Member. :)
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pruple Donating Member (159 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 04:03 PM
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12. +1
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 11:14 PM
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21. he reminds me of figures from the old movies of numbers guys, he
needs a fedora. :-D
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 01:48 PM
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4. Nate has taken "Geek Chic" to a whole new level.
Edited on Thu Jan-07-10 01:51 PM by jefferson_dem
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 01:50 PM
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5. Warren G's numbers contradict this.
:evilgrin:
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 02:09 PM
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7. Yeah but if your ass is a buster....
FiveThirtyEight will regulate. :)
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 04:00 PM
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11. I was hoping someone would get it.
:+
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 05:04 PM
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16. You are some GOOD CORN Guy Whitey....
.... I have no doubt about that. ;)
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 04:20 PM
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13. lol
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 02:28 PM
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8. Oh my God!! NATE DOG!!
Clio, you have taken me back ONCE AGAIN!!

((humming gently)) "Nate Dogg and Warren G had to reg-u-late..."

Oh, the memories! The memories!!

Oh yeah, and kick and rec for the Silver info too. :)
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 02:42 PM
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9. All "Nates" are legally required to be referred to as "Nate Dog"
Edited on Thu Jan-07-10 02:45 PM by Clio the Leo
... or perahps "Nate Dawg."

It's in the Constitution or something I think. :)

They got guns to my head
I think I'm going down
I can't believe this happenin' in my own town
If I had wings I could fly
Let me contemplate
I glanced in the cut and I see my homey Nate



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi7UUJ6cwLQ
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 03:00 PM
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10. Nate also thinks that it is premature but felt forced to respond to hysterical opinions that
were starting to take root.
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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 04:26 PM
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14. Ok why did I think you were talking about Nate Dogg
the rapper? :rofl:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 04:29 PM
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15. If he's right, Obama WILL be re-elected with even more votes than the first time. n/t
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whistler162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 05:19 PM
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17. Sorry I only listen to Penelope the Cat!
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 06:22 PM
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18. Lieberman's head would explode if Dems gain 2 Senate seats.
Edited on Thu Jan-07-10 06:23 PM by yellowcanine
As would the Teabaggers'. Ah well, we can dream.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 06:28 PM
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19. Why is the M$M making it appear that the Democrats are doomed...
...and yet they say absolutely NOTHING about the bad shape that the Repukes are in? I had to turn off the news last night. Diane Sawyer is so emotional, and her histrionics nearly had be retching!!! :puke::puke:
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Independent_Voice Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 06:57 PM
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20. I don't think Dems will gain seats this cycle, but....
Republicans pick up Colorado (Norton over Bennet), Illinois (Kirk over Gionnoulis), Nevada (Lowden over Reid), North Dakota (Hoeven over Heitkamp), and Delaware (Castle over SomeoneOtherThanBeauBayh).

Democrats pick up Missouri (Carnahan over Blunt), Ohio (Fisher over Portman), and North Carolina (Marshall over Burr).

Every other seat is a party hold, albeit some by extremely narrow margins (Lincoln in Arkansas, Dardenne in Louisiana, Grayson in Kentucky).

+2 Net Gain for the Republicans. Schumer gets Majority Leader.

Democrats retain control, 56-42-2.

2012 is a wash. Snowe retires, and Hannah Pingree wins in Maine. Kim McMillan narrowly defeats Corker in Tennessee. Ben Nelson retires, and Lee Terry wins in Nebraska. Robert Byrd faces health problems and is forced out, and Shelley Moore Capito wins special election and a subsequent General Election in West Virginia.

2014 is the year where more Dem seats in the Senate are going to be vulnerable.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 12:05 PM
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22. The number of seats we have doesn't matter when they are Corporatists.
Edited on Fri Jan-08-10 12:05 PM by Odin2005
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