MSNBC keeps saying if there's another attack it'll be Obama's "3rd strike."

[jenmito]

They're counting Ft. Hood as strike 1, this failed attempt as strike 2, and any future "attack" (or attempt, obviously, according to them) as strike 3. They're saying this because they need to find a way to criticize Obama for taking responsibility and supposedly saying at 4:30, "We know what went wrong and we know how to fix it."

So wasn't the Shoe Bomber BUSH'S strike 2? How 'bout the Anthrax attacks? No? :eyes:

ETA important note: Apparently, THEY got it from Gen. Jim Jones who said Obama "certainly doesn't want that third strike..." in an earlier interview. Maybe we can't blame MSNBC afterall.

[DesertFlower]

1. WTF? who said that?

[jenmito]

3. There's a whole "panel" discussing this stuff...

including Michael Sheehan, "NBC News Terrorism Analyst," Norah O'Donnell, Alex Witt, David Shuster, and Richard Wolffe. But Wolffe (and Shuster) usually rebut what Sheehan says.

[Captain Hilts]

2. Why do people watch that stupid channel? He responded just right to the ScantyBomber. nt

[tekisui]

4. That is ridiculous.

Every mass shooting should count, by their measure.

[grytpype]

5. The Permanent Narrative in the media is "Democrat fails."

[GreenPartyVoter]

9. No doubt about it. 3000 die on **'s watch and somehow he's a hero. No one dies

here in a terror attack on Obama's watch, but somehow he is a strike three? It would be laughable if it weren't for the fact these jokers influence a lot of people's thinking. (Which they know, and are happy to take advantage of that fact in order to push their agenda.)

[LovinLife]

6. I've noticed they're starting to blame him for Ft. Hood out of the blue. I blame Obama for

not being tough enough in criticizing his opponents. He let too much slide and now the media is jumping on him. I said this yesterday. These people are waiting for an attack, and when it happens all hell will breal loose.


That Major was promoted under Bush. Now once the guy tried to make contact w/ terrorist, someone should've stepped in. I can't remember when he did that though.

[Cleita]

7. Two high rise buildings in NYC were destroyed and 3000 people died immediately,

not to mention those who have died since then as a result of the toxins released in the 9/11 attacks. Anything that happens on Obama's watch pales in comparison. btw, there were four attacks on 9/11 so Bush's strikes already outnumber Obama's.

[jenmito]

10. But Mary Matalin said Bush INHERITED 9/11.

And she was serious!

[Cleita]

13. Yeah, dear Mary.

Wasn't she one of Cheney's advisors for awhile? They must have slipped a lot of Kool-Aid into her coffee.

[jenmito]

16. Yup.

She said it with her husband James Carville. He said nothing.

[CTyankee]

8. What appalls me is the killing of those CIA agents in Afghanistan by the

"double agent." I know that wasn't on our soil but it is still very bad.

However, "double agents" are always a serious risk and they've been used in warfare from the dawn of time. Sometimes you take a chance and you lose and that is what happened in this case.

Sad, tho.

[Parker CA]

11. Third strike = "you're out," and the MSM is aiding the GOP in lining up rational to call for

impeachment should another something go down. It's all too transparent when they're carrying water for the pugs. AM this morning was awful. I've been watching Shuster, but even the commentary for the last hour has been slanted heavily against Obama.

[dkf]

12. I want him on his toes. Good.

Frankly I am appalled that al queda is using the same mo and it still works. Makes me think everything is for show but it's still as bad as it's ever been.

[jenmito]

15. You think he's not on his toes? Did he ignore a PDB warning about this?

The problem is the intel. system didn't work. It was not Obama's fault but he'll take responsibility anyway since the buck stops with him. He's NOW going to make changes to what supposedly "worked" under Bush.

[Cha]

33. Everybody does this isn't about you.

[NYC Liberal]

14. I wish someone would tell them that 9/11 was 4 separate attacks, not 1

It would have been possible to stop one or more without stopping all of them — in fact, one was stopped, although by the passengers and not the government. There were four separate groups of terrorists, preparing and training independently.

So in reality, Bush had on his watch:

• AA Flight 11 hijacking and destruction of the North Tower of the WTC
  
• UA Flight 175 hijacking and destruction of the South Tower of the WTC
  
• AA Flight 77 hijacking and attack on the Pentagon
  
• UA Flight 93 hijacking
  
• The Anthrax attacks
  
• The shoe bombing attack

Yet Bush is "tough on terrorism"?

[LovinLife]

17. Damn Clinton. NT

[DrToast]

44. One more

Everyone always forgets this one: http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/07/04/la.airport.shooting/

[Democrats_win]

18. If Obama "strikes out" does that mean the terrorists win?

[flpoljunkie]

19. NBC's Miklaszewski's serving as intel agencies' mouthpiece to whine 'Obama needs to take some blame'

He's their chief Pentagon correspondent and long ago ceased to be impartial in his criticism of the Obama administration.

[winstars]

42. Jim Mik--9/11 Reporter

Remember he was at the Pentagon that morning and reporting when it got hit... He was not very good 'on the fly' that morning when we needed some clarity!!! What's funny to me is that they repeat the NBC coverage of that Tuesday morning every year (on 9/11) on MSNBC. It unfortunately shows how fucking stupid Matt and Katie ( I guess she became so smart right before Palin) and Andrea and Mik were and still are!!! They basically talked while the second plane hit and missed the first collapse (again blabbing until someone off camera must have said "LOOK AT THE FUCKING MONITORS YOU IDIOTS!!!! Check this year in September...

[jimlup]

20. Absurdly paranoid

[stray cat]

21. They are more positive than 1/2 of DU....who already have called him "out"

[Kdillard]

22. Ridiculous but par for the course with our liberal media.

[LovinLife]

23. I looked it up and Hasan was promoted under Bush. He contacted this radical guy in 08. NT

[mzmolly]

24. As you said, Richard Reed, The Beltway Sniper and the Anthrax Attacks

should perhaps ring a bell?

[badgerpup]

25. Wait a minute, wait a minute...

:wtf:

Are we talking about FAILED (as in 'they caught the guy BEFORE he actually pulled it off') terrorist attacks?

I thought that was what SUPPOSED to happen!

There's going to be angry disgruntled unstable people who don't give a flying BFD about anything except themselves and their 'cause' no matter what...and they come in all flavors.

AFAIK, there's no way to find them all and have them in custody BEFORE they try anything (like in the movie Minority Report)- they have to surface first and start doing terrorist things BEFORE Security can grab them.

So, we've got failed attempts. How are these 'strikes' against Obama?


Again, :wtf:

[LovinLife]

Obama has the teleprompters today. Is this a big speech? NT

[Writer]

26. Didn't I read earlier that OBAMA was the one who initially used this language?

In referring to intelligence failings?

Please say NARP if I'm wrong.

[Bjorn Against]

27. The reaction to a pair of exploding underwear is absurd

Nearly two weeks after a pair of underwear exploded the media and our government are still obsessing about it as if the underwear bomber actually posed a serious threat to our national security. He did not pose a threat, he was probably the most pathetic terrorist I have ever heard of. The guy did not cause damage to anything aside from his crotch, and the media wants us to believe that we need all kinds of new security measures in place to protect us from exploding underwear.

We are supposed to be afraid of exploding underwear yet the real threats that face our nation are ignored. Global warming is threatening our planet and nothing is being done to stop it, the same bankers who nearly crashed our economy last year are still up to their old tricks and are not being regulated, the so-called "war on terrorism" is only serving to inflame the middle east, there are numerous real problems facing the world yet we are supposed to be scared of underwear. Sorry, but no matter how much the media wants to focus on the threat of underwear I still find global warming to be a bigger threat to our planet than exploding underwear.

[FrenchieCat]

28. They like to politicize National Security,

just like they politicized race during the campaign.

They are good at it, cause it is what they do!

[MerryBlooms]

29. Of course they are

it's what sells, disgusting, but true.
The more negative they can spin this or any incident, the better for them and more $$$. The US has always craved bad news - as scary as it sounds, they're catering to their audience.

[drm604]

30. What is this, baseball?

Why is 3 a magical number anyway?

[Arkana]

31. Fort Hood was strike 1?

Since when?

Bush had the anthrax attacks, the DC sniper, the goddamn fucking Trade Towers collapsing, the London bombings, and the shoe bomber. That's FIVE FUCKING STRIKES.

[Cali_Democrat]

32. NBC is owned by General Electric, a major arms supplier

They want to goad Obama into launching more military campaigns so they can benefit financially. Of course more military strikes isn't going to stop terrorism, but what do they care as long as they make a buck?

They profit from death and destruction.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

34. Call MSNBC and complain

[butterfly77]

35. Bush had more than 1000 strikes..

and these people didn't say a word they just whooped it up,and told America how bad they thought they were. They really do believe that if you keep attackin and killing peoples' families that they won't attack back just because we are America...But,as bush and the rightwing tells us "they hate us for our freedoms.

If they hate us for that then,why do they come over to enjoy all of them,bush let the Saudis and others buy up city blocks with armed guards...

[Enrique]

36. there were no attacks of any kind during Bush

all the attacks in his first term actually happened under Clinton, and the attacks in his second term happened under Obama. Mary Matalin told me that.

[mstinamotorcity]

37. Rhetoric is the key

if they keep repeating it long enough you will believe what they say.They sculpt their non issues into issues.boring and frankly gettig old.

[avaistheone1]

38. Yes, just like all the lies about 9/11 that Cheney and the republicans keep repeating.

[mstinamotorcity]

45. Have you noticed

They forget to mention that the underwear bomber was trained by two detainees that were let go under the Bush/Cheney administration. And that they try and connect it to the Fort Hood Shooter with the cleric which they have also known about during the previous administration.And he sure went from being The underpants bomber to the Christmas bomber to the Detroit bomber.(no relation to the Detroit Brown Bomber,Joe Louis).And what about those rumored reports of a man in a well dressed suit bypassing security claiming that the young man was a Sudanese refugee? And it was reported here in Michigan and other reports that all cell phones and camera and recording devices were confiscated by authorities.So at what point do we know the truth.I just know that mis steps in the previous administration are still reeking havoc on our country under the new administration. with so much to fix if i was the President i might do a Sarah Palin.:* :* :*

[pamela]

39. Using their criteria, Bush had way more than 3 strikes...

9/11, Anthrax, DC sniper, shoe bomber, LAX shooting, etc. No one ever mentions that last one but it was determined to be a "terrorist attack." http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/West/04/12/airport.shooting/ I always bring it up when wingnuts spout their "Bush kept us safe..." line.

And how about these? Strikes 6, 7, 8, 9 & 10?

4/13/2004 USA Raleigh, NC A Muslim man runs down five strangers with a car.

6/16/2006 USA Baltimore, MD A 62-year-old Jewish moviegoer is shot to death by a Muslim gunman in an unprovoked terror attack.

6/25/2006 USA Denver, CO Saying that it was ‘Allah’s choice’, a Muslim shoots four of his co-workers and a police officer.

7/28/2006 USA Seattle, WA An ‘angry’ Muslim-American uses a young girl as hostage to enter a local Jewish center, where he shoots six women, one of whom dies.

2/13/2007 USA Salt Lake City, UT A Muslim immigrant goes on a shooting rampage at a mall, targeting people buying Valentine’s Day cards at a gift shop and killing five.

[GoCubsGo]

41. You forgot a big one

7/27/2009 USA, Knoxville, TN Two people shot to death and 7 injured when a white guy walked into a Unitarian Church, with the intent to "kill Democrats and liberals", and shot up the place.

I guess since liberals and Democrats were the targets, they don't consider this a "terror attack."

[Phx_Dem]

40. Can't blame MSNBC for this one. Gen'l Jones is the moron who said it.

[ProgressOnTheMove]

43. Yeah, the shoe bomber of course gets a pass for the previous prez or the sportsman who still flew...

plane into a building in a post 9/11 world or the anthrax attack. We just were so much safer under the previous president with actual real attacks than failed ones. We need to draw up posters to highlight this and knock their nonsense on the head display them round local towns.