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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 04:27 PM
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Big Dog to Teddy? "A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee."
Teddy's anger - Ben Smith: Teddy's angerJanuary 09, 2010

One of the enduring mysteries of the 2008 campaign was what got Ted Kennedy so mad at Bill Clinton. The former president's entreaties, at some point, backfired, and the explanation has never quite emerged.

I've finally gotten my hands on a copy of Game Change, in which Heliemann and Halperin report:

s Hillary bungled Caroline, Bill’s handling of Ted was even worse. The day after Iowa, he phoned Kennedy and pressed for an endorsement, making the case for his wife. But Bill then went on, belittling Obama in a manner that deeply offended Kennedy. Recounting the conversation later to a friend, Teddy fumed that Clinton had said, A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0110/Teddys_anger.html


I call bullshit on this one. This much is obvious...most of the leaked bits are loaded to embarrass Dems.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 04:30 PM
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1. It's from Politico so I would think you are right
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jezebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 04:42 PM
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3. It's in the book, Ambinder also reported Clinton saying it. I think Obama has the right attitude
THE BOOK IS CLOSED on the campaign and any assholish comments people made then.

OR we can let this hurt the Democratic Party and have some bloodletting. Which one do you think right wing Halperin is hoping for with his book?
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 04:46 PM
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4. Agreed
and thanks for correcting my mistake
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 05:31 PM
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7. I agree..I am so over the primaries
and on the same page as our President, VP, and SOS.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 04:33 PM
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2. Politico. Enough said
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 04:58 PM
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5. Double bullshit. n/t
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 05:04 PM
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6. consider the source: Halperin
No friend of Democrats.

I consider Halperin as much responsible for the politics of destruction as Drudge, Colter, Goldberg, Murdoch, Scaife, and the rest of the insane clown posse. He nannied the press corps every day with his own agenda, shaping coverage.

A pox on him.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 07:15 PM
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14. Halperin seems to think that gossip shit is important so he reports it all the time.
He is a superficial "reporter," doing stuff on gossip and the like and never really concentrating on the hard issues. He is a smirker and I can't stand him.

It's hard for me to believe that his father, Mort Halperin, was a hero of the anti-Vietnam war era, when he gave the Pentagon Papers to Daniel Ellsburg...
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 07:27 PM
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15. he's a lot like Tucker Carlson..
...and Chris Wallace. Smarmy punks who rode on Dad's coattails.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 07:28 PM
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16. halperin is a shithead. No respect for him...nt
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Diamonique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 05:49 PM
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8. It seems they are really out to hurt Dems with this book.
Whatever else is in it, I don't care.

This book is poison to everyone. Some stuff should just remain "behind the scenes".
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 05:51 PM
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9. would Bill Clinton do that?
Honestly, I don't think it's in him. Not his style.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 06:03 PM
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10. A junior senator with no experience to speak of going against Bill - I could see it
Edited on Sat Jan-09-10 06:04 PM by stray cat
not in a racist sense. However, Bill doesn't like to be challenged by someone he sees as wet behind the ears and Teddy didn't support Bill in 2008
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 06:54 PM
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11. Well too bad, Bill
maybe there's a lesson in adopting that attitude.

IF this is true, I'll allow that it could be meant in a "Who does this greenhorn think he is to challenge the Clinton machine?" sense, but it was still bad form to say nonetheless. Given the tenor of the primaries, I could totally believe Bill said it, but the President is a class act and is wisely not falling for the trap of divide and conquer distraction, so good on him.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 07:01 PM
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12. The election and the primaries are over.
Even if Bill said this (and I doubt he did), I don't think there was any racial meaning behind it.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 07:10 PM
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13. Well, the book is by Halperin. No surprise it is against Democrats and Drudge like,
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