Well, for me on the health care bill it's...

[TheKentuckian]

House bill without a public option and minus Stupek an thats the final offer, otherwise see you in Hell.

If that's too "liberal" and "uncompromising" then we'll just have to be that way.

I think not only the left but the broad majority of the party have come a few lightyears past meeting whoever the fuck we are begging for crumbs from halfway at the point. We'd still just really have a stripped down "starter house" but we just might have something we can build onto and grow.

Some corporate toadie tell me and the rest of us how crazy leftwing and purist this is, please. This has become a farce of the highest degree. Who can with a straightface argue that just getting us backed down to the House bill without the public option is more than enough pounds of flesh?

[rwheeler31]

1. Pass it and get on with it.