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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 03:39 AM Original message |
How do You Negotiate for Higher Wages with Over 10% Unemployment? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 03:46 AM Response to Original message |
1. Unemployment was 10.8% in 1981 |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 03:55 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I think you're wrong on every part of that post. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 05:16 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. I got raises in the 1981 |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 05:22 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. So you got yours. Great! |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-11-10 07:33 PM Response to Reply #8 |
43. that is totally NOT what she said. you should know better. |
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DailyGrind51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 09:53 AM Response to Reply #7 |
17. Interest rates were also much higher in the '80s, providing non-sales revenue. |
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jeanpalmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 06:08 AM Response to Reply #2 |
10. People got "pay raises" |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 06:12 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Don't forget the government no longer includes things like gasoline in their indexes. |
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chimpymustgo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 10:45 AM Response to Reply #2 |
20. Also, mythical "higher wages" are being touted as the basis for taxing good healthcare plans. |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 03:57 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. There will be money for wages but they won't be paid. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 05:11 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. It's not going to stay this way forever |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-11-10 07:47 PM Response to Reply #6 |
44. You are trying to use my example of the corporate culture to make lemonaid here? |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 04:03 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Ah yeah that went real well for PATCO in 1981 |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 05:08 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Oh good lord, yes there were problems in 1981 |
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cabluedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 06:01 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. You dont have a clue do you? Its not 1981 toto. |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 11:22 AM Response to Reply #5 |
23. Reagun's busting of PATCO was in many ways the |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 01:31 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Thank you for the history lesson |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 05:01 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Oh there are still $100k jobs out there |
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Sherman A1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-11-10 08:02 PM Response to Reply #23 |
45. Agreed & Well Said |
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Hawaii Hiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 11:54 PM Response to Reply #5 |
36. One good thing about 1981 was that CD"s were paying around 13% |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 07:51 AM Response to Reply #1 |
13. for 2 months, if that. |
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DCBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 06:17 AM Response to Original message |
12. I think you should just be happy you have a job at this point.. |
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90-percent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
14. related thread |
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Ghost Dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
15. Through solidarity, strikes, general strikes, |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
16. You just do, OK? Now stop asking so many impertinent questions! |
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jschurchin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
18. It's not hard. |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
19. BY demonstrating where you add value in excess of your current pay/costs |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 01:53 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. Paging HughBeaumont! |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 09:01 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. And your alternative suggestion is.... |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 09:27 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Right, you're supposed to show up at 6 am and leave at 2 am on a regular basis. |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-11-10 09:16 AM Response to Reply #32 |
37. Hey I did everything I listed and got laid off too - but I can still get raises doing it. NT |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
21. So this is your argument against taxing overpriced crappy health plans: |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 02:52 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. It's the argument against the tax leading to higher wages |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 05:14 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. We've already seen that you're anti-Union so of course you're going to work against them. |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
22. My boss is an asshole and I see him naked in the shower every day |
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quiller4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
25. Regional unemployment rates are a much bigger factor in labor negotiations |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 09:48 PM Response to Reply #25 |
33. What's the unemployment rate in Western Washington? |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
30. That's why we have to bring unemployment down first. Hence, |
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harkadog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 11:24 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. NAFTA is what is causing destablization. |
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mstinamotorcity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 11:40 PM Response to Original message |
35. I really don't know |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-11-10 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
38. NAFTA has nothing to do with India and China. |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-11-10 09:31 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. I'm not claiming I was sober when I typed this OP. |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-11-10 10:10 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Thanks for your honesty!!! :-) nt |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-11-10 11:07 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Hell! I'm just amazed you were the first one to catch it. |
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hayu_lol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-11-10 07:24 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Time to bring back the strong labor unions... |
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