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Mon Jan-11-10 02:38 PM
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I don't care if Reid steps down |
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As far as I'm concerned he's a little too conservative for me anyways.
Right wingers wanted to stomp out the left where ever it exists. If they are bitching about this then, well....they got the world they wanted so what's the beef?
No one ever asks their politicians to retract support for tea party freaks who display blatantly racist signs. Not to mention that not one of them has ever has been asked to retract their support for the minutemen even after they pistol whipped a six year old and were busted recruiting white supremicists.
THe right got the world they wanted. From the business leader to the indoctrinated idealogue.
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Mon Jan-11-10 02:41 PM
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1. I don't either. He has been ineffective. I've been calling for Kerry to be majority leader. |
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Lets see it happen all ready.
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Mon Jan-11-10 02:44 PM
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You will get alot of flack for that because, well...(lot of old stuff).
But yep, ABR. :)
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Mon Jan-11-10 06:56 PM
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18. I think Kerry would be fantastic at that or at most anything he chose to do |
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Edited on Mon Jan-11-10 07:01 PM by karynnj
but I wonder if he would want to give up the SFRC, where he has held some really exceptional hearings and done a huge amount of good work this year. The mainstream media has given the hearings relatively little coverage - maybe because they have been serious and civil.
(In fact, one of the reasons I think he would be excellent as ML is the way he manages that committee.)
I think though that this really is unfair to Reid. The central thing he was doing was saying that Obama could win. There WAS a question - better phrased in PC language as to whether Americans had become open to electing a non-white. This is no different than people questioning in 1960 if a Catholic could be elected.
I think that Reid DID get the budget, the stimulus, SCHIP, Lilly Ledbetter, and possibly healthcare passed. What is clear in the last several months is how hard "herding" Democrats is. In addition, to step down gives this attempt at making a mountain out of a mole hill some reality - and coupled with the loss of power could lose his seat to a Republican. Better wait until the next Congress. Then, if a significant number of Democrats dislike his leadership, there will be a move to replace him - but I would bet that it would be Chuck Schumer, not John Kerry, who would lead it. (Schumer himself may be affected by the book - in public he was 110% HRC, her leading cheerleader - the book says he pushed Obama to run. If he admits this or if it is proven to be true, if it was not already common knowledge, you wonder what it does in a body where trusting your word is important.
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Mon Jan-11-10 02:41 PM
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2. I sure agree with you...but we also have to live under their rule.. |
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Mon Jan-11-10 02:42 PM
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3. I've been calling for Harry's scalp for a long time |
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He's a totally ineffectual doofus.
Put Russ Feingold in as leader.
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Mon Jan-11-10 03:38 PM
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5. He should step down. His comments were racist and he's been a terrible leader in the Senate. |
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Mon Jan-11-10 03:45 PM
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8. If he said what they say he said...and I haven't SEEN it, he should GO. |
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It would be the last straw.
If a Republican had said those things, we would be FUMING.
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Mon Jan-11-10 05:12 PM
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9. I'm not arguing whether or not he said those things |
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if anything he should step down because of his stances on many issues that are at odds with the people.
Primarily his vote to ban partial birth abortions w/o exception for the life of the mother as well as his support for the 2005 bankruptcy bill.
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Mon Jan-11-10 05:22 PM
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12. Harry has been a terrible leader of the Senate. Almost as bad as Tom Daschle. |
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Mon Jan-11-10 05:45 PM
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16. Oh, I'd like to see him out of that spot.... |
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this is as good a reason as any.
I just don't want the 'pukes to chalk it up in THEIR win column.
Don't really care that much, though, as long as we get a more progressive senator in his place.
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Mon Jan-11-10 05:23 PM
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13. But then by the same token, the Republicans have no right to |
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demand he step down. The Dems, but not the Republicans. And why do they want that? One must be suspicious of things that Republicans want. Republicans only want things that are good for Republicans.
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Mon Jan-11-10 05:28 PM
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14. Republicans (if you really mean the right wing) already have everything they want |
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They wanted the leaft cleared out of every section of American government, social and economic life. They got what they wanted.
They literally have the world they advocated for and if they are not happy with it....so what?
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Mon Jan-11-10 03:42 PM
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6. I've been saying today, replace him with a real Progressive. |
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Mon Jan-11-10 03:44 PM
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Does anyone have a link to the ACTUAL QUOTE?
When did he say what he said and who did he say it to?
All I can find is this:
"he apparently made awkward remarks about President Barack Obama’s “light skin” and his lack of “Negro dialect” during the elections in 2008."
I'd like to see the exact quote.
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Mon Jan-11-10 05:19 PM
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"light-skinned" appearance and speaking patterns "with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one." It appears the convo was made behind closed doors. The above quote is what the authors of the book say Reid said. From CNN http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/01/09/obama.reid/index.html
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Mon Jan-11-10 05:42 PM
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15. Pretty vague and broken up, eh....? But he admits to it, so he must remember saying it. |
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Or it must be on someone's tape somewhere....
I'd really like to hear it in context and know who he was talking to, but I guess I'll have to wait for the book....
:hi:
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Mon Jan-11-10 05:46 PM
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17. I would like to hear the whole convo too. |
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Not a big fan of Reid, long before this was revealed. I think he's weak and not a true representative of what I think the Democratic Party should stand for.
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Mon Jan-11-10 05:16 PM
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10. He's as useful as a kick-stand on a Jackass, and he won't get re-elected this fall anyway.. |
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..time to push him out...
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Mon Jan-11-10 08:10 PM
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19. Disagree. Not a fan of Harry's, by any means, but, considered in context, what he actually said |
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was not racist.
Ill-considered? Clumsy? Insensitive"? "Yes" to all, but racist? Not really. The conversation was political in nature and was just part of Reid's statement IN STRONG SUPPORT OF Barack Obama's candidacy.
Now is the time to "circle the wagons" around, yes, even Harry. To do less is "giving aid and comfort" to the Republican whores who would fan the flames of racist fear to defeat this president and his agenda.
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Mon Jan-11-10 08:29 PM
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If this is what it takes to get rid of Reid...fine.
I want real Democrats representing me...
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Mon Jan-11-10 09:54 PM
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Mon Jan-11-10 09:58 PM
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22. He shouldn't go like this, though |
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It would be a victory for rabid RWers who would immediately take credit.
No, I would prefer he went down for our own criticisms.
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