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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 09:22 AM
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Sources: Health Care Reform Talks 'Approaching the End'
Edited on Fri Jan-15-10 09:23 AM by jefferson_dem
Sources: Talks 'Approaching the End'
Jonathan Cohn

Negotiations over health care reform continued into the wee hours of Friday morning, as President Obama presided over a White House meeting with his top advisers and congressional leaders.

The group met in the Cabinet room. Obama didn't leave until just before 1 a.m. The congressional delegation, which included House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, didn't depart until 1:25.

No agreement was reached and talks will continue today. But several sources from the administration and Capitol Hill suggested that a deal was getting close. "I think we are approaching the end," one Democratic source said.

Multiple, sometimes contradictory stories about the details of negotiations were circulating throughout Washington world all night long. But those with direct knowledge of the talks said there was an emerging, if still fluctuating, consensus that insurance exchanges in the new system would be some sort of state-national hybrid--possibly a blending of the proposals that gives states more autonomy than the House proposal envisioned but gives the federal government more regulatory oversight than the Senate proposal initially sketched out.

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Whatever the net addition of new money, a key issue will be how to spend it. The biggest weaknesses of the Senate bill, relative to its House counterpart, are in so-called actuarial value and overall limits on out-of-pocket spending. The low actuarial value, in particular, would mean higher cost-sharing for a large number of people with moderate- to heavy medical expenses. (High out-of-pocket limits also mean higher cost-sharing, but they tend to affect only the very sickest people, since only the very sickest people spend enough to reach those limits.)

But improving actuarial value costs a lot of money--precisely because it affects so many people. It also raises more political opposition among even some moderate Senate Democrats. As such, discussions were apparently moving towards improving, instead, the subsidies for purchasing insurance--although sources cautioned again that, at least as of very early this morning, discussions remained extremely fluid.

The goal, all week long, has been to wrap up negotiations today, so that language could go to the Congressional Budget Office.

http://www.tnr.com/blog/the-treatment/sources-talks-approaching-the-end
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 09:42 AM
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1. The speed at which they're going is the main thing that scares me...
.... about the Mass race. Eeeek!
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Imajika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 09:54 AM
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2. They are speeding this along precisely because of Mass...
Obama, Reid and Pelosi know we may lose this race.

They'd need to have a deal and get it through before Brown is seated.

Honestly though, if Scott Brown actually pulls an upset and wins, and the Democratic Party tries to force this through before he is seated, my guess is a few of the conservadems like Nelson or Lincoln will stop it. They'd see the message the Mass special election sent and delay their support for cloture until Brown is in.

Bottom line, if Brown wins on Tuesday, HCR is a corpse and a years worth of effort goes down the drain.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 11:05 AM
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3. ahhh yes and if Brown wins ..reconciliation can take place and it would put the Public Option back
Edited on Fri Jan-15-10 11:07 AM by flyarm
in play!

Heaven forbid Obama doesn't protect Big Pharma and the Insurance Profit and Gouging of American's bill!


remember this..

Rahm Emanuel Tells Liberals To Kiss His Arse
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 07:03 PM
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6. The public option can not be done by reconciliation
Every Senate expert has said this - because of the Byrd amendment. So, you can stop cheering Brown on - even in Huge text with multiple colors.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 01:13 PM
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4. The House can just pass the Senate bill.
That's really the worst case scenario at this point, even with a Brown win. The Senate won't have to re-vote if the House passes an identical bill.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 06:58 PM
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5. Which I think is what Weiner is alluding to here....
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 07:11 PM
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7. It's taking too long, IMO.
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