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Sun Jan-17-10 11:20 PM
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Regarding The PPP poll: The closer it looks the more enthused DEMS will become |
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Edited on Sun Jan-17-10 11:21 PM by Perky
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Sun Jan-17-10 11:21 PM
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1. Another poll came out today showing Brown with a ten point lead |
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Edited on Sun Jan-17-10 11:23 PM by MadBadger
According to polls, its not getting any closer.
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Perky
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Sun Jan-17-10 11:22 PM
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2. Care to source that poll? |
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Sun Jan-17-10 11:23 PM
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http://www.pollster.com/blogs/ma_brown_51_coakley_41_insidem.phpI dont know the pollster's record, but I saw it on Pollster today.
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Mon Jan-18-10 10:48 AM
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20. Came out yesterday. 21% liberal, 26% conservative |
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Their base working assumption is that Massachusetts has 5% more conservatives than Democrats.
It's using the same model as the Pajamas Media poll released last week that had Brown up 15 points.
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Mon Jan-18-10 11:23 AM
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24. Liberal doesnt equal democrat. |
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DOnt confuse the two. There are plenty of dems who consider themselves moderates or conservatives.
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Mon Jan-18-10 11:12 AM
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Mon Jan-18-10 12:51 PM
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27. I follow pollster.com some what.... If you notice |
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That poll was taken on 1/15/20.......before Cokeleys numbers started to move also has 4.1% margin of error.....and it was an Automated phone, poll....So it is not as bad as it first sounded.
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Sun Jan-17-10 11:22 PM
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3. I sure as hell hope so... |
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How can it be that the "real" Brown is not getting across? I am just damned appalled.
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Perky
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Sun Jan-17-10 11:27 PM
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6. That is an oulier for sure |
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565 on a robopoll is piss poor sample Robopolls need to sample twice as many as a live person.
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Sun Jan-17-10 11:28 PM
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7. Speaking of robocalls, Rasmussen should be coming out with one more poll... |
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Tomorrow perhaps. I think KOS will publish one also. If either shows Brown better than +5, we got problems.
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Sun Jan-17-10 11:26 PM
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5. The closer it looks? He's widening his lead. |
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Sun Jan-17-10 11:29 PM
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Sun Jan-17-10 11:38 PM
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11. Have we seen any polls that show it getting closer? |
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Sun Jan-17-10 11:29 PM
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I don't get your one-liners at times.
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Sun Jan-17-10 11:34 PM
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10. And it is within the margin of error |
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So it could actually be a statistical tie. And of course, the poll can't take into account how big turnout will be and turnout could flip things completely.
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Sun Jan-17-10 11:45 PM
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He hasn't widened his lead. It's still the same 4-point margin, as the last poll. Plus, Joe Kennedy is not included in the poll. It's large turnout from democratic voters that will help Martha Coakley win. And the polls can't predict turnout, especially in a special election.
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Sun Jan-17-10 11:49 PM
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13. I'm more enthused for this than i was in 2008 |
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We NEED this win. We will get it.
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Sun Jan-17-10 11:50 PM
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He is up by five. But my argument remains the same.
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Mon Jan-18-10 01:21 AM
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15. PPP had Hoffman up 17 points 2 days before election |
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Mon Jan-18-10 04:34 AM
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I had forgotten about those polls.
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Mon Jan-18-10 10:18 AM
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19. It was because that poll was taken before Dede Scozzafava pulled out |
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or it was just in the middle of it. No one thought all her support would go to Owens but most of it did. With the PPP poll in Mass, I think it may be inaccurate if the pollsters did not screen the most likely voters in the right way. It all comes down to turnout.
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Mon Jan-18-10 12:24 PM
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25. Scozzafava pulled out Oct 31st |
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the poll was on Oct 31st - Nov 1st
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Mon Jan-18-10 12:44 PM
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26. So it was after she pulled out, huh? They really miscalculated then. |
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Mon Jan-18-10 04:51 AM
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17. I can't even begin to express how shellshocked I am by this race. |
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Mon Jan-18-10 10:11 AM
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18. I so hope you are right! |
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Mon Jan-18-10 10:50 AM
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The thing that blows my mind about this poll is that they've got voters approving of Obama only something like 44 percent-43 percent. That seems way off for Mass. No other polls indicate his approval that low.
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Mon Jan-18-10 11:08 AM
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Obama is fine in Massachusetts. Coakley will win if we do OUR job and GOTV
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