Sen. Webb: No HCR Votes Until Brown Seated

[jefferson_dem]

Health Care Comes To Screeching Halt - Sen. Webb: No HCR Votes Until Brown Seated

Less than 15 minutes after the race was called for Republican Scott Brown, the first of what could be many conservative Democrats asks for leadership to put the brakes on health care reform.

Sen. Jim Webb (D-VA) congratulated Brown on his win and delivered a zinger:

"In many ways the campaign in Massachusetts became a referendum not only on health care reform but also on the openness and integrity of our government process. It is vital that we restore the respect of the American people in our system of government and in our leaders. To that end, I believe it would only be fair and prudent that we suspend further votes on health care legislation until Senator-elect Brown is seated."

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/01/health-care-comes-to-screeching-halt-sen-webb-no-hcr-votes-until-brown-seated.php

[frazzled]

1. Eff you very much, Jim Webb

[newtothegame]

56. Weren't we like in love with Jim Webb just a short while ago?

And talking about how much he nailed Shrub in their meeting? Now he's the devil? :shrug:

[frazzled]

62. Well, some were

I had the realistic idea that he was the kind of former Republican, somewhat conservative Democrat who could get elected in Virginia. That is what he turned out to be. I don't blame him for that. That's who he is, and that is pretty much what he ran on. But I don't have to like it.

We keep wanting that: to elect Democrats from red states, and then we all yell when they act like ... democrats from red states. The best thing about it: it gives us majorities, which is important. The bad thing about it is: it makes it impossible for the party to pass anything.

[msongs]

2. the sharks are circling the struggling victims lol

[jenmito]

3. Forget him. The House can vote on the Senate bill and it will be finished.

Webb's opinion doesn't matter then.

[IndianaGreen]

The entire House faces the voters in November

They love to be reelected more than anything else.

[jenmito]

17. Yeah. And Webb apparently wants the bill not to pass. If a bill doesn't pass, NO Dems. will

be re-elected despite the conservadem Webb.

[IndianaGreen]

It depends upon the bill, doesn't it?

The Senate version of HCR is worse than nothing!

[jenmito]

46. The Senate bill is NOT worse than nothing. And I bet all families who have kids with

pre-existing conditions agree with me, as do the 31 million people who will get coverage.

[Thothmes]

61. Also bet all the folks in Nebraska support it .

[golfguru]

60. Webb wants to be re-elected before he worries about HCR eom

[playboyj305]

66. thats the reality of the situation

[golfguru]

58. Correct n/t

[Clear Blue Sky]

52. Assumes the House will pass it.

[mth44sc]

4. proof positive

that the Dems didn't learn a damn thing tonight...

[IndianaGreen]

5. Weren't we told that the blue dogs and conservadems were going to change their tune

Evan Bayh did it tonight on local TV, long before the polls closed. Bayh urged caution.

[Avalux]

6. No words. n/t

[Orangepeel]

7. only surprise is that Webb is first.

I would have put money on one of the Nelsons.

[IndianaGreen]

13. Evan Bayh was first, on local TV, hours before the polls closed

Bayh was doing his "let's be cautious" tap dance.

[LiberalFighter]

21. His wife owns his balls. As well as Wellpoint and the other boards she sits on.

[jenmito]

No wonder. Then I hope Pelosi goes ahead and passes the Senate bill!

[IndianaGreen]

26. Their stocks just went up today on Wall Street

Crooks both of them, Susan and Evan Bayh.

[LiberalFighter]

49. Any idea as to whether Bayh is having trouble getting the requisite number of signers

for his petition to get on the ballot?

[Orangepeel]

24. well, THAT'S not a surprise n/t

[tridim]

8. What an asshole.

[senseandsensibility]

9. That's it.

They will never get it.

[tridim]

15. Slight overreaction there.

[senseandsensibility]

19. I mean they will never "get it" mentally

not that the healthcare bill will never pass.

[Lord Helmet]

10. the cowards are going to retreat now

[dkf]

11. Back room deals. Secret agreements with big business. That is not what we were promised.

[rwheeler31]

12. Oh for God's sake shut up.

[BeyondGeography]

14. Abandon ship, Barack, HCR is doomed

Lord knows you tried. It's a second term issue now. Time to focus on the next election so you can get another chance.

[IndianaGreen]

28. Jobs, jobs, jobs

That should be the priority.

Scrap the Senate HCR, and use reconciliation to expand Medicare.

[treestar]

16. I'm confused, since I would have thought as a D Webb would vote for it

Now he is in essence going to allow it to lapse.

Congrats Progressives! if this is the way it goes.

[Connie_Corleone]

25. Webb has been voting for republican amendments to the HCR bill.

He also voted several times to send the bill back to committee (republican amendments also), which would've killed the bill.

[quiller4]

65. His votes mirror the views of the majority in his state. n/t

[jefferson_dem]

18. Sen Reid:"We welcome Scott Brown to the Senate..."

"...and will move to seat him as soon as the proper paperwork has been received"

http://twitter.com/stevebruskCNN/statuses/7971387957

[LiberalFighter]

27. Does he really need to say anything?

[jefferson_dem]

32. Nope. But it's a nice gesture.

It's kind of like "congrats and welcome to the club". I got no probs with that.

[FVZA_Colonel]

34. I'm really going to be hoping that means they'll be waiting until the state deadline is met

for a certificate to be issued 10 to 15 days from now.

[IndianaGreen]

35. By the rules, Brown cannot be certified until January 29

[FVZA_Colonel]

39. What are the chances Reid will use this to avoid seating him until then,

and try and have a final vote before then?

That would require actual courage, but it's been talked about.

[senseandsensibility]

44. None

zero.

[FVZA_Colonel]

45. That would be entirely in line with his character.

[IndianaGreen]

63. OBE--Brown to be certified tomorrow

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x137217

:crazy:

[Connie_Corleone]

20. And that's why I told the DNC tonight I wasn't giving any money.

If the Democrats, especially in the Senate, get scared and start running away from the Democratic agenda, then I'm not wasting my money on them. I'll support my senator Brown and President Obama. Whoever wins the Democratic primary for the open Ohio senate seat will have my support if he or she doesn't start running to the right.

That's it.

[Dinger]

22. ey webb, The Buck Doesn't Stop With You

Just to let you know dipshit.

[Parker CA]

23. Fuck that. Get it done tomorrow. nt.

[S_E_Fudd]

29. Senator Webb just lost my vote...nt

[Divine Discontent]

30. oh REALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLY? wow. first chance that he gets he says it, huh?

this is just too much.

I blame the top - as I should, and as everyone should.

[demo dutch]

31. WTF ....I used to like him a little

[lynne]

33. Webb is covering his own butt. Don't forget VA just inaugurated a repug governor on Saturday -

- who won in a landslide after VA - who has 2 Democratic senators - went almost totally blue just 12 months prior.

Webb is looking to secure his own job. That's all.

[higgs]

48. He shold be worried

Virginians are not happy with how he voted on HCR.

[jillan]

36. ????????????????

[themaguffin]

37. Webb is a dumbass, doesn't he know that the Senate is done, the House is going to follow

and get it done?

Seriously these people are stupid.

[jgraz]

38. The excuses start already.

I'm going to die of not surprise. :eyes:

[wisteria]

40. I disagree with him, he is just considering himself. We need to move forward on Health care. n/t

[mrbarber]

41. Does America even deserve Universal Healthcare?

For fucks sake, they elected a tea-bagging birther.

Maybe this country really is beyond hope.

[FVZA_Colonel]

43. Bring on the United Republic of America.

It's what a lot of people in this country seem to really want.

(Ten points if you get the literary reference)

[Hansel]

51. MA already pretty much has it so what do they care.

Not the state that should be deciding how we move forward on health care.

And yes, the 47 million people who don't have health care deserve to have it. And the 45,000 whose death certs have just been signed again for the coming year do as well.

Unfortunately though, if the lesson learned from this is a further move to the right, and I suspected it would be, then this country is beyond hope. The "moderate" Democrats are morons.

If the Democrats don't move to the left and regain their base after this, it over.

[Grand Taurean]

42. Get in line redneck.

:puke:

[Hansel]

47. Yes Jim, because the only state in the union that has nearly universal

health care should be the state that decides what the other 49 states should have. Kind of like the senior citizens at the town halls.

What an asinine statement. A lot of the MA voters didn't want the national health care because they already had theirs and didn't want to go through it again. I'm not sure this it the state that should be the bell weather for determining health care.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

50. Somebody should remind this asshole he's not majority leader. Not that

our sorry ass majority leader will disagree. But still I'll wait to hear it from him.

[ArnoldLayne]

53. What is up with him

[ArnoldLayne]

54. Oh I almost forgot... Fuck you Webb

and the ship you rode in on.

[JVS]

55. Hmmmm.

[TwilightGardener]

57. Wow...Jim Webb...what an asshole. Fuck off, Webb--I hope they pass

HCR with a strong public option just to piss you off, you motherfucking backstabber.

[WCGreen]

59. Let's take his fucking health care away...

[ShortnFiery]

64. Hey, don't hate us VA folks for voting for Webb, the alternative was Allen.

I knew Webb would be a Corporate/DLC/Blue Dog/New Democrat, but WTH, he was eons better than Allen. :shrug:

[harun]

67. Asshole.