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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:04 PM
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Mass Sec of State will Certify Brown Tomorrow.
http://twitter.com/senatus/status/7973725785

I was wrong on that one. I thought they'd try to take two weeks to give them enough time to bet a bill signed without Brown in the way.

But over the last few hours, the Dem powers that be have been sending the message that they will NOT try to delay Brown's swearing in. Hmmm ..... but why? There's got to be an upside to doing it that way or they wouldn't do it .... but what is it?

Are they trying to go out of their way to show that they're not obstructing?

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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:05 PM
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1. if bush could figure out how to get HIS legislation passed, so can Obama nt
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:08 PM
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2. You mean all of those progressive bill she passed? NT
.... yes, I just realized I referred to Bush as "she" .... it's a typo .... but nah, I dont think I'm going to correct it.
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:09 PM
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3. We are officially screwed
I really thought we'd get this pass, but the lastest turn of events is going to make it impossible now. Losing that seat puts us back in the minority essentially because of the fillibuster option. We might as well have 49 Senators because the most Conservative ones are pretty much Republicans anyway. For fucksakes we didn't need this.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:11 PM
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4. Not if the House passes the exact Senate bill and then later
Edited on Tue Jan-19-10 11:11 PM by jenmito
after it's law, uses reconciliation to make some changes.
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:19 PM
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8. That does seem to be the ONLY option right now
But the Senate version was pretty shitting including the amendment to prevent insurance from allowing abortions to be covered. If it has to go that way, then I'd be ok with it. I'm skeptical the House will do it and that some Democrats might back away from their votes. Remember it only passed by 5. That means if 5 House members get chickenshit, it's over.
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 04:58 AM
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21. Abortion was never going to be covered
Too many blue dogs. Not sure the polls support it anyway.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:41 PM
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11. Except Larry O'Donnell pointed out that we STILL need 60 votes...
.... to break the filibuster on the various procedural motions during the reconciliation process.

Ugh ..... my stomach.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:43 PM
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13. Pass the Senate bill and we will lose the House in November
The Senate's HCR is fatally flawed, raising taxes on the middle class with no cost controls of the health industry.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:40 PM
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10. one of my mother's Facebook friends, apparently a wingnut...
.... posted "YAY!!!! NO MORE FILIBUSTER!!!"

:) .... you cant make stuff like that up.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:13 PM
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5. Dems have already said they won't pass the bill without him seated
So, might as well get him there ASAP. Frowns.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:28 AM
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17. Bayh and Webb need to be on the shit list.
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auburnblu Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:14 PM
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6. Glad they are not delaying
That would get tons of air play and internet play and frankly it is not how our government should be run.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:42 PM
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12. Yeah, I think they're worried about the message.....
.... darn that Obama, always worried about the message. :)

(and roll tide btw! :silly: )
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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:15 PM
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7. It would look awful to try and delay swearing him in to pass health care
That's a losing play politically.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:28 PM
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9. As it should be. n/t
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:44 PM
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14. Fine. Seat the fucker.
Then...kick ass.
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kwenu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:47 PM
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15. Looks like the House will either have to agree to the Senate bill or its over then.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:02 AM
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16. Democrats are a bunch of wimps. Whats new?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:30 AM
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19. What should they do?
Be Republicans?

Delay him being seated would accomplish what, exactly?
Set up another media firestorm.....
while Dems keep dissing them and calling them wimps...
cause we know that will never end.
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PhilosopherKing Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:29 AM
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18. No, get it out of the news cycle.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:30 AM
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20. I agree with that.
It's done.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 07:05 AM
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22. LOL...just have to laugh! Are Dems this stupid?!?
Edited on Wed Jan-20-10 07:06 AM by quantass
There is no logical reason to seat him this quickly....this has got to be a rumor...no way. I will wait for official word before shaking my head for the 100th time this year regarding this party.

If this ends up being true it is small things like this that has kept republicans around when they should have been extinct way back when the bible died and science was born.
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