hulka38
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Tue Jan-19-10 11:57 PM
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Can you see FDR, Truman, JFK, LBJ or Carter not pushing thru real HCR |
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with a solid PO under these circumstances?
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Tue Jan-19-10 11:58 PM
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1. PO was just invented recently...so yeah. |
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Tue Jan-19-10 11:59 PM
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2. OK. Give us a scenario where the PO would be accepted by the |
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majority of Dems and rethugs. I'm all ears. Thanks!
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Wed Jan-20-10 12:00 AM
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3. not with 60 Senators, and two thirds of the house.... |
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Wed Jan-20-10 12:04 AM
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5. LBJ had 64 Dems in the Senate for the Civil Rights Act and 282 Dems in the House |
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Edited on Wed Jan-20-10 12:07 AM by SemiCharmedQuark
He had BETTER than Obama had now and he had Republicans who weren't batshit insane. And here we are 40 years later with no HC.
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Wed Jan-20-10 12:13 AM
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That's sad though when you consider the political capital Mr. Obama had coming in as the newly elected first African-American president.
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Wed Jan-20-10 01:15 AM
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12. LBJ had even greater political capitol -- as a VP suddenly |
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stepping in after JFK's assassination. Truman, maybe not so much, even though he was suddenly elevated after Roosevelt's death. But neither of them managed it.
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Wed Jan-20-10 12:01 AM
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4. Umm...considering LBJ had *better* than these circumstances and didn't push thorugh Health Care... |
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Wed Jan-20-10 12:05 AM
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6. BIngo: and neither did Kennedy or Truman or FDR |
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Wed Jan-20-10 12:07 AM
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8. If anyone had a supermajority AND a cooperative oppostion party |
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Wed Jan-20-10 12:06 AM
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7. Well yes. What Truman proposed and ultimately gave up on |
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had nothing approximating a public option.
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Wed Jan-20-10 12:07 AM
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9. Um... they didn't pass HCR |
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Wed Jan-20-10 12:08 AM
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Truman was the first enrolee of Medicare. LBJ signed him up when he signed the bill into law. which was actually an amendment to the SSA of 1937
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Wed Jan-20-10 01:38 AM
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My president, whom I hope will grow in the job, lost touch. Once elected he did not follow through.
health care reform should not have been turned over to Congress to screw around with. Obama had promised simplicity and a simple understandable process to get there, not wheeling and dealing for 9 months.
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Wed Jan-20-10 01:58 AM
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14. Actually, yes. Seven (count 'em, 7) Presidents have been unable to pass health care reform. Okay? |
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Barack Obama has gotten farther with HCR than SEVEN PREVIOUS PRESIDENTS.
HEKATE
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Wed Jan-20-10 01:59 AM
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I can see that they did not.
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