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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 09:55 AM
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A Rahm Too Far : Time For Obama Voters To Pull The Plug - Comment by Lee Stranahan
Edited on Wed Jan-20-10 09:58 AM by 1776Forever
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lee-stranahan/a-rahm-too-far-time-for-o_b_392190.html

Lee Stranahan
Posted: December 15, 2009 02:22 A

A Rahm Too Far :
Time For Obama Voters To Pull The Plug


A little over a month ago, I wrote a piece called Badfellas about how Rahm Emanuel and President Obama had killed health care reform. At that time, I thought we'd end up with a trigger. Oh, I recall those optimistic days fondly.

As cynical and realistic as I was, I never thought it would get down to this...

The White House wants Reid to hand Joe Lieberman the farm.
An aide briefed on discussions with the White House says that there would be no story if Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel hadn't interceded. The aide confirmed an account, reported by Huffington Post, that Emanuel visited Reid personally, telling him to cut a deal with Lieberman.

Then the aide provided more detail.

Emanuel didn't just leave it to Reid to find a solution. Emanuel specifically suggested Reid give Lieberman the concessions he seeks on issues like the Medicare buy-in and triggers

To use a trendy Tiger Woods analogy, this is the 101th mistress -- the time to stop defending and start packing.

(more at link)
............

This is what a lot of us on DU are thinking!
:argh:
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 09:56 AM
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1. Now they will have to hand Snowe the farm
Unless they really want to use the nuclear option. Which they are probably hesitant to do, knowing that Republicans could be in control again one day. So I doubt that Brown's election inspires them to do that.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 10:00 AM
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3. Haven't you heard?
It's all about "compromise, consensus and bipartisanship, even if that meant only incremental change".
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 10:02 AM
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4. Well now it's with Snowe rather than Lieberman
Thanks to the independents of Mass.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 10:07 AM
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7. Makes one ill - Remember Bush - "I call you my base?" He didn't give a damn about the middle class!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn4daYJzyls

George W Bush - The Elite My Base

George Bush: This is an impressive crowd. The haves, and the have-mores. Some people call you the elite. I call you my base.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 10:14 AM
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9. Another paean to timidity.
It's really simple: use reconciliation, push through a strong Public Option and you won't have to worry that Republicans "could be in control again one day".

In other words, quit playing to lose.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 02:31 PM
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29. Harry Truman
"When given the choice between a Republican, and a Democrat who acts like a Republican, the voters will choose the Republican every time." ---Harry Truman


QED

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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 09:57 AM
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2. Rahm must go. Kaine too.
These idiots brought us here, and we can't expect them to get us back to where we once belonged.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 10:02 AM
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5. Oh I see the "un-recommend" group is up and unrecommending today as usual.
You really think Rahm should stay? Then you deserve what you get in the next 3 years! This is NOT change we can believe in!
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 10:05 AM
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6. Rahm is just a reflection as to how Corporate President Obama is at heart.
That and the fact that Obama is "risk adverse" when it comes to confronting Wall Street, The Pentagon and/or the corporations comprising the MIC.

President Obama has made his choice, he is the CEO of the Corporate United States of America.

Corporations are people too! Their needs over-ride that of the unwashed masses who only serve as a "labor pool" from witch the ruling class has to choose from on a multi-national scale.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 10:11 AM
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8. This year will define President Obama's vision. He must start fresh and not care about feelings!
Remember Bush:

George Bush: This is an impressive crowd. The haves, and the have-mores. Some people call you the elite. I call you my base.

President Obama REMEMBER YOUR BASE!
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 10:41 AM
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16. I pray for Obama to change, he could. I think this painful defeat of his friend Teddy's former seat
in a very liberal state should truly awaken him if he is on our side as I still hope he is, despite the way it appears this past year. I give them another year, grudgingly, before I bolt from the party if that's what they've become (Repub-lite).


Geithner is another UBER-mistake!
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 10:16 AM
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10. Shhhh! We're not supposed to talk about that! n/t
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 10:20 AM
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12. Exactly
Edited on Wed Jan-20-10 10:25 AM by 1776Forever
:hide:
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 10:28 AM
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13. You will stand accused of poutrage and ponilessness if you keep this up! n/t
Edited on Wed Jan-20-10 10:28 AM by QC
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 10:52 AM
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21. Informal SCRIBBLINGS and DRIBBLINGS
:popcorn: Perhaps by some - They are blind folded.
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 10:20 AM
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11. The fact that Obama selected Rahm
and keeps him on board says a lot about Obama. :thumbsdown:
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 10:33 AM
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14. Don't be silly! Rahm is the evil Sphengali figure who forces poor, innocent Barack
to do all the things we do not like.

The things we like, on the other hand, are purely Barack's doing.

Get with the program!
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 10:47 AM
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17. We know he doesn't force President Obama but his influence has been noticeable!
It is a wake up call for President Obama to set his vision with fresh insight! Time for Rahm to go and someone else to come in - Or is it time to form another more liberal Party?
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 10:51 AM
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19. Rahm only influences him to do bad things.
All he good things that we like are Obama's doing, though.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 10:38 AM
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15. Heard of a Hurricaine? It's a RahmiKaine.
Those two, Rahm & Tim Kaine, are horribly inappropriate for this party. I never 'appreciated' the ways of hard-core DLC'er Rahm before his current gig, for he seemed to tout a 'what's good for business is good for America" attitude, and Kaine couldn't wipe the sweat off Dean's forehead...
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 10:49 AM
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18. Is it time to form another more truly Liberal Party?
Edited on Wed Jan-20-10 10:49 AM by 1776Forever
Is it? I say it looks that way unless things change soon!
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 10:52 AM
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20. To see Howard Dean treated the way he was, without Obama defending his incredible work, was a key
action, along with Rahm & Geithner being given the keys to the kingdom...


:puke:
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 10:54 AM
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22. Yes - so right on!
:eyes:
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 11:02 AM
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24. That was the writing on the wall
The way Howard Dean was cast aside was despicable. Interesting that Obama was more willing to reach out to Republicans than he was willing to reach out to Dean. Oh, but we're not supposed to notice that. It's all about building a team of rivals. Hey, Mr. President, how's that working for you?

:mad:
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 10:55 AM
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23. Oh things will 'change'
Just in time for the next election cycle. Once they have our votes, it will be business as usual.
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 11:03 AM
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25. What's that old saying?
A man's known by the company he keeps? His choice of Rahm was a big red flag from the get go.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 11:12 AM
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26. There were plenty of red flags every bit as bad or worse during the primaries,
but no one wanted to hear about them.

Donnie McClurkin? KirbyJon Caldwell? Austan Goolsbee? Jason Furman?

Hey! Look! Over there! Look what cool shades Obama's wearing!
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:05 PM
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27. Bingo! n/t
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 01:29 PM
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28. K&R.
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